How does this make any sense?

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Cowboys fans have been told multiple lies this off-season by Jerry and Stephen Jones. None more blatant than the lie, “We couldn’t afford Derrick Henry”. Absolute falsehood. Several contracts could have (should have) been restructured to free up space

Heres my bigger point: It’s even simpler than that. Look at this comparison of Derrick Henry’s contract with Balt to a particular Cowboys player:
  • Derrick Henry: In 2024, Henry will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a signing bonus of $7,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,105,000
  • Trey Lance: In 2024, Lance will earn a base salary of $1,055,000 and a roster bonus of $4,255,714, while carrying a cap hit of $5,310,714.
So we have 3rd string QB Trey Lance, who has yet to be active for a game this year, and would have only been eligible to play if Dak and Cooper Rush were to be injured, having approximately the same cap hit as Derrick Henry this year. Our FO somehow thinks holding on to Trey Lance is worth the same as the NFL’s leading rusher.

How does any of this make sense? So we have Trey Lance at a cap hit of $5.3 mil to sit on the inactive list while we watch Derrick Henry destroy NFL defenses for a $5.1 mil cap hit.

Pure lunacy.
 

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It really makes no sense financially or philosophically. The Trey Lance transaction arguably looks worse than it did when we made this random trade before the season started last year. Looks even dumber seeing as we gave Dak the bag anyway.

Henry is the exact type of player with the exact type of skillset the Joneses would probably normally fawn over.
 

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You have to remember who's at the helm, and it makes no logical sense. I still don't understand the Trey Lance deal, just that alone should tell you he's asleep at the wheel. If this was the military he would have been removed from his post long ago
 

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Cowboys fans have been told multiple lies this off-season by Jerry and Stephen Jones. None more blatant than the lie, “We couldn’t afford Derrick Henry”. Absolute falsehood. Several contracts could have (should have) been restructured to free up space

Heres my bigger point: It’s even simpler than that. Look at this comparison of Derrick Henry’s contract with Balt to a particular Cowboys player:
  • Derrick Henry: In 2024, Henry will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a signing bonus of $7,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,105,000
  • Trey Lance: In 2024, the Cowboys gave him a fifth year extension of his rookie deal. Lance will earn a base salary of $1,055,000 and a roster bonus of $4,255,714, while carrying a cap hit of $5,310,714.
So we have 3rd string QB Trey Lance, who has yet to be active for a game this year, and would have only been eligible to play if Dak and Cooper Rush were to be injured, having approximately the same cap hit as Derrick Henry this year. Our FO somehow thinks holding on to Trey Lance is worth the same as the NFL’s leading rusher.

How does any of this make sense? So we have Trey Lance at a cap hit of $5.3 mil to sit on the inactive list while we watch Derrick Henry destroy NFL defenses for a $5.1 mil cap hit.

Pure lunacy.


While I agree missing on Henry was a colossal mistake, it doesn’t matter at this very second. We have no defense. I don’t care if prime Moss, Emmitt, and Irvin were on the team, we can’t stop anyone. Anyone blaming Dak is an idiot…NOBODY gets separation. It’s embarrassing. Dak is carrying this depleted team, but one dude can only do so much. No OL and Dak is being harassed constantly.

We just aren’t fielding a very good football team right now. It’s that simple (and disappointing).
 

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While I agree missing on Henry was a colossal mistake, it doesn’t matter at this very second. We have no defense. I don’t care if prime Moss, Emmitt, and Irvin were on the team, we can’t stop anyone. Anyone blaming Dak is an idiot…NOBODY gets separation. It’s embarrassing. Dak is carrying this depleted team, but one dude can only do so much. No OL and Dak is being harassed constantly.

We just aren’t fielding a very good football team right now. It’s that simple (and disappointing).
Watch the coach's film. Dak is locking onto receivers a majority of the time. He's not going through his progressions even when he has the time to. He's missing wide-open receivers in the flat where they could easily move the chains and he isn't even looking at them. Dak is playing with zero confidence and he has the "Yips". It's not 100% on Dak for the team losing but when the offense can't even score, it puts a ton of pressure on the defense. Every W or L starts with the QB.
 

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While I agree missing on Henry was a colossal mistake, it doesn’t matter at this very second. We have no defense. I don’t care if prime Moss, Emmitt, and Irvin were on the team, we can’t stop anyone. Anyone blaming Dak is an idiot…NOBODY gets separation. It’s embarrassing. Dak is carrying this depleted team, but one dude can only do so much. No OL and Dak is being harassed constantly.

We just aren’t fielding a very good football team right now. It’s that simple (and disappointing).
That’s a fair point. This defense is awful even with everyone healthy. But the Henry situation illustrates that several FAs on either side of the ball could have been signed here if the FO had really wanted it.
 

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I am very thankful Henry did not come here and ruin his career. He is on a juggernaut that might be Super Bowl bound rather than a dumpster fire of a team that can' t block at a PeeWee level.
He’s already had a Hall of Fame career. Coming here wouldn’t have ruined it. Baltimore is far from a juggernaut but playing there gives him a chance at a Super Bowl.
 

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He’s already had a Hall of Fame career. Coming here wouldn’t have ruined it. Baltimore is far from a juggernaut but playing there gives him a chance at a Super Bowl.
It definitely would have if he is playing for success + money. You are not getting the first in Dallas.
 

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It definitely would have if he is playing for success + money. You are not getting the first in Dallas.
You’re totally wrong. He’s already a first ballot Hall of Fame player. Coming here wouldn’t have erased all the great years he had. It’s not like Tennessee was a juggernaut. He played for very few good teams there. Playing on bad teams isn’t going to ruin a running backs career. Playing in AZ didn’t ruin Emmitt Smith’s career. It’s all about numbers with RBs. Playing on bad Buffalo teams didn’t ruin O.J. Simpson‘s NFL career. You’re one of those fans that’s very down on the team right now.
 

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While I agree missing on Henry was a colossal mistake, it doesn’t matter at this very second. We have no defense. I don’t care if prime Moss, Emmitt, and Irvin were on the team, we can’t stop anyone. Anyone blaming Dak is an idiot…NOBODY gets separation. It’s embarrassing. Dak is carrying this depleted team, but one dude can only do so much. No OL and Dak is being harassed constantly.

We just aren’t fielding a very good football team right now. It’s that simple (and disappointing).
I understand what you are saying about the D but Henry's impact would have been huge and you can argue it would have trickled through the entire team. No way in hell defenses would disrespect our run game with Henry as they do now.

This is one colossal screw up buy Jerry that goes to the top of the list where Randy Moss resides (lol)............and he knows it.
 

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You’re totally wrong. He’s already a first ballot Hall of Fame player. Coming here wouldn’t have erased all the great years he had. It’s not like Tennessee was a juggernaut. He played for very few good teams there. Playing on bad teams isn’t going to ruin a running backs career. It’s all about numbers with them. Playing on bad Buffalo teams didn’t ruin O.J. Simpson‘s NFL career. You’re one of those fans that’s very down on the team right now.
Reread my post and pay attention this time. I stated "success". And if you think I am down on the Cowboys "at this time" then you have not been paying attention to my posts over the last four years.
 

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It really makes no sense financially or philosophically. The Trey Lance transaction arguably looks worse than it did when we made this random trade before the season started last year. Looks even dumber seeing as we gave Dak the bag anyway.

Henry is the exact type of player with the exact type of skillset the Joneses would probably normally fawn over.
There was nothing wrong with trying and I actually applaude Jerry for taking the risk. He has to invest more in finding a good QB. And no, he doesn't have one right now.

The problem (once again) was, that he couldn't see (or didn't want to) that it was a mistake and just like with Dak and all the other "my guys" in the last 30 years he wouldn't jump the sinking ship. Because that would mean admitting that he was wrong. Being wrong is a normal part of being a GM or any management position by the way.

But Jerry doesn't seem to think like that. At least in football. I mean he made billions. So I guess he's a good entrepreneur. Therefore identifying a mistake and correcting it should be a concept known to him.
 

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Cowboys fans have been told multiple lies this off-season by Jerry and Stephen Jones. None more blatant than the lie, “We couldn’t afford Derrick Henry”. Absolute falsehood. Several contracts could have (should have) been restructured to free up space

Heres my bigger point: It’s even simpler than that. Look at this comparison of Derrick Henry’s contract with Balt to a particular Cowboys player:
  • Derrick Henry: In 2024, Henry will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a signing bonus of $7,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,105,000
  • Trey Lance: In 2024, the Cowboys gave him a fifth year extension of his rookie deal. Lance will earn a base salary of $1,055,000 and a roster bonus of $4,255,714, while carrying a cap hit of $5,310,714.
So we have 3rd string QB Trey Lance, who has yet to be active for a game this year, and would have only been eligible to play if Dak and Cooper Rush were to be injured, having approximately the same cap hit as Derrick Henry this year. Our FO somehow thinks holding on to Trey Lance is worth the same as the NFL’s leading rusher.

How does any of this make sense? So we have Trey Lance at a cap hit of $5.3 mil to sit on the inactive list while we watch Derrick Henry destroy NFL defenses for a $5.1 mil cap hit.

Pure lunacy.
For it to make sense you have to realize the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
Lance’s contract became guaranteed during the off-season. Once they made the trade they were stuck with the cap hit. What wouldn’t have made sense would have been trading for and then releasing Lance before giving him a chance to perform in pre season / training camp in your system !
As for Henry… he averaged 68 yards per game last season. He was averaging 3.8 ypc prior to the last game of the season when they played the jags who imploded. How much of Henry’s resurgence has to do with it being a dual rush threat with Jackson. Does anyone reasonably believe Henry would have a 5ypc average here in this pass to run offense with this OL and outside zone blocking scheme. More likely he’d be averaging 60 yards a game and every other post would be Jerry is an imbecile for getting Eddie George’ed again. If they wanted to drop 8m per season on a RB then it should have been Pollard!
 

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Reread my post and pay attention this time. I stated "success". And if you think I am down on the Cowboys "at this time" then you have not been paying attention to my posts over the last four years.
You originally said it would have ruined his career coming to Dallas. That’s what I responded to. Now you’re trying to reverse course.
 
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