How does this make any sense?

[Creeper]

Of course they were lying and they are still lying about their CAP situation. At any time they could have extended CeeDee and created more than enough CAP room to fit Henry.

The truth is they didn't want to sign Henry or any other free agents of value because Jerry had a plan of some sort. They could have signed Armstrong or Fowler, or Tyron Smith too instead of allowing the talent drain they allowed in the offseason. And isn;t it just Jerry's luck to have all the injuries now so he can blame the Cowboys demise on that instead of his own failed plan? Who will remember two of the 3 early blowouts came before all the injuries?

 

[starfan1]

Diamond Dolt or whatever the guy’s name is you’re replying to isn’t a Dallas fan. Glad this forum has an ignore feature. He’s on mine.

Do you see any post at all? This site is full of fake fans like him who is only here for the trolling at this point

 

[Ranching]

You have to remember who's at the helm, and it makes no logical sense. I still don't understand the Trey Lance deal, just that alone should tell you he's asleep at the wheel. If this was the military he would have been removed from his post long ago

He's the Commander in Chief....not that easy to remove...

 

[Ranching]

It rhymes with Scary Bones

Lol! He does look like the guy from Tales From the Crypt!

 

[Aven8]

Zeke actually counts 8 million this year. 3 million for his salary and the other 5 million for his previous contract…….

 

[Redsfan_83]

For it to make sense you have to realize the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
Lance’s contract became guaranteed during the off-season. Once they made the trade they were stuck with the cap hit. What wouldn’t have made sense would have been trading for and then releasing Lance before giving him a chance to perform in pre season / training camp in your system !
As for Henry… he averaged 68 yards per game last season. He was averaging 3.8 ypc prior to the last game of the season when they played the jags who imploded. How much of Henry’s resurgence has to do with it being a dual rush threat with Jackson. Does anyone reasonably believe Henry would have a 5ypc average here in this pass to run offense with this OL and outside zone blocking scheme. More likely he’d be averaging 60 yards a game and every other post would be Jerry is an imbecile for getting Eddie George’ed again. If they wanted to drop 8m per season on a RB then it should have been Pollard!

Yet nobody wants to talk about this. The talk all last year was that time has caught up to him, and he has nothing left due to wear and tear on his body. Henry is playing out of this world, but his performance is magnified in the Ravens offensive system. Do any of us think he would be doing what he is now with this mess of a team?

 

[shabazz]

Cowboys fans have been told multiple lies this off-season by Jerry and Stephen Jones. None more blatant than the lie, “We couldn’t afford Derrick Henry”. Absolute falsehood. Several contracts could have (should have) been restructured to free up space

Heres my bigger point: It’s even simpler than that. Look at this comparison of Derrick Henry’s contract with Balt to a particular Cowboys player:

• Derrick Henry: In 2024, Henry will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a signing bonus of $7,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,105,000
• Trey Lance: In 2024, the Cowboys gave him a fifth year extension of his rookie deal. Lance will earn a base salary of $1,055,000 and a roster bonus of $4,255,714, while carrying a cap hit of $5,310,714.

So we have 3rd string QB Trey Lance, who has yet to be active for a game this year, and would have only been eligible to play if Dak and Cooper Rush were to be injured, having approximately the same cap hit as Derrick Henry this year. Our FO somehow thinks holding on to Trey Lance is worth the same as the NFL’s leading rusher.

How does any of this make sense? So we have Trey Lance at a cap hit of $5.3 mil to sit on the inactive list while we watch Derrick Henry destroy NFL defenses for a $5.1 mil cap hit.

Pure lunacy.

Great write up.

Jerry only aquired Lance with the hopes of saving gobs of money by replacing Dak with him.

Although someone else drafted Lance, what made him the target was that Jerry would be credited for resurrecting a career others gave up on.....we've seen that fail with the Ryan Leaf experiment too

Another swing and miss by Crusty

 

[kskboys]

Cowboys fans have been told multiple lies this off-season by Jerry and Stephen Jones. None more blatant than the lie, “We couldn’t afford Derrick Henry”. Absolute falsehood. Several contracts could have (should have) been restructured to free up space

Heres my bigger point: It’s even simpler than that. Look at this comparison of Derrick Henry’s contract with Balt to a particular Cowboys player:

• Derrick Henry: In 2024, Henry will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a signing bonus of $7,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,105,000
• Trey Lance: In 2024, the Cowboys gave him a fifth year extension of his rookie deal. Lance will earn a base salary of $1,055,000 and a roster bonus of $4,255,714, while carrying a cap hit of $5,310,714.

So we have 3rd string QB Trey Lance, who has yet to be active for a game this year, and would have only been eligible to play if Dak and Cooper Rush were to be injured, having approximately the same cap hit as Derrick Henry this year. Our FO somehow thinks holding on to Trey Lance is worth the same as the NFL’s leading rusher.

How does any of this make sense? So we have Trey Lance at a cap hit of $5.3 mil to sit on the inactive list while we watch Derrick Henry destroy NFL defenses for a $5.1 mil cap hit.

Pure lunacy.

That's what happens when your GM is a non-football guy. Jerry simply does not understand the game at the NFL level. He's continuously made boneheaded decisions that have cost us mightily.

 

[kskboys]

Henry needs a runway to get going, and a ton of carries. He's the guy that will average a couple YPC to start the game, but by the end will be freight training DB's. IF you get him the ball w/ a little space to get going. Which is what a heady coach like Harbaugh does.

 

[Wolfpack]

Non of it makes sense because the folks making the decisions don't know what they are doing.

• Trade for Lance (a near premium pick, a 4th) with his guaranteed $5M contract on a one year deal. Had he actually panned out, they would have to resign him with no leverage what so ever. Similar to the Cooper Trade.
• As of today, Dallas has around $24M in un used cap space. They could have signed anyone they wanted, that enough for Henry plus 2 other solid role players.

 

[StarOfGlory]

While I agree missing on Henry was a colossal mistake, it doesn’t matter at this very second. We have no defense. I don’t care if prime Moss, Emmitt, and Irvin were on the team, we can’t stop anyone. Anyone blaming Dak is an idiot…NOBODY gets separation. It’s embarrassing. Dak is carrying this depleted team, but one dude can only do so much. No OL and Dak is being harassed constantly.

We just aren’t fielding a very good football team right now. It’s that simple (and disappointing).

While our defense is certainly poor at this point, having someone like Henry might have allowed the offense to extend drives, thus keeping our pitiful defense on the sidelines longer.

 

[Blast From The Past]

It makes perfect sense. Jerry drafted Zeke and will die on that hill before admitting Henry was the logical choice. Remember, Jerry is smarter than everyone else……

He asked the reporter if he thought he was an idiot. The reporter said no probably thinking yes. He built this monstrosity, that we know. From jocks to socks and ain't no whistle safe from this genius.

 

[Blast From The Past]

I don’t disagree. Henry would’ve made the team, especially Dak, SO much better. Dak can’t utilize the play pass at all….nobody is afraid of our run game. No play action, no successful passing attack. It’s really unfortunate that we don’t have Henry or at least a run game that’s even average.

I was a Zeke supporter to come back but in a very specific role. A role that has not been fulfilled I thought with our oline coach Solari and blocking scheme and with the linemen that we have that King Henry would have been wasted here in Dallas. Now I wish we would have pulled the trigger on him for better or worse.

 

[Bobhaze]

The Cowboys did not pick up Lance’s fifth year option. He was paid his roster bonus on the 5th day of training camp. The balance of his guaranteed 4th year salary is paid in 17 installments as game checks. He becomes a free agent on March 12, 2025. He is not under contract for the 2025 season which, if he makes an NFL team, would be his fifth year.

KC I looked it up and you are correct…Lance’s contract was not a fifth year extension. My mistake. Doesn’t change the fact that this FO could have done several FA deals and somehow just chose not to.

Thanks for the correction though. I have corrected it in the OP.

 

[blueblood70]

First of all, Derrick Henry wasn't available when we picked up Trey Lance ,it was a different year a different time, and it's too bad it's too late, it already was made the decision was made before Henry was FA, and Trey's contract was what it was.. there is no correlation.. You're living on hindsight and don't have a time machine...

I'm on here just laughing at some of post seems all offense and keep talking about the offense. we literally have an historically bad defense, and this is what doesn't make sense?

 

[jazzcat22]

Henry could help the defense by helping the offense.
Ball control, rest the defense.

We seen in 2014, how DeMarco Murray and the ground game, ball control, helped the defense. It kept them rested. Same for 2016 with Zeke, and dink and dunk Dak.

Now the defense is gassed after the 1st quarter. As the offense can't move the ball.

Jerry and Son had every opportunity to make moves to "afford" Henry. But they sat on his big boat drinking and came up with he phrase "all in" instead.
They could have made cap room back then. But waited until after the off season and TC.

Most idiotic off season ever. And I don't think this debacle will change anything.

Yes, miracles happen, they can get healthy or mostly after the bye week and get on a roll and win. But how many actually think that can happen? At least as the way the team has looked so far.

 

[Sandyf]

Watch the coach's film. Dak is locking onto receivers a majority of the time. He's not going through his progressions even when he has the time to. He's missing wide-open receivers in the flat where they could easily move the chains and he isn't even looking at them. Dak is playing with zero confidence and he has the "Yips". It's not 100% on Dak for the team losing but when the offense can't even score, it puts a ton of pressure on the defense. Every W or L starts with the QB.

You obviously aren't watching the same games I'm watching. Possibly 3 times locked on a receiver although for to many times he had no choice but the first read due to being blitzed almost every play. Throwing to the flat means working through all progressions of which he never had that amount of time due to terrible line play.
The defense put them in a hole before the 1st quarter was over. No receiver had any separation all day while Goff had as much as 4 seconds to throw the ball with receivers with 5 yards of separation that any of us could hit those wide open targets.
Blame Dak like most haters due but one man does not win in the NFL. If the line is bad then WR must quickly get separation and none did, backs have to hit the hole but we rarely saw one Sunday and the defense should have at least a 50 percent stop rate not a 10 percent stop rate.
Both Jones have mishandled this team for years and now we are paying the price.

 

[thunderpimp91]

First of all, Derrick Henry wasn't available when we picked up Trey Lance ,it was a different year a different time, and it's too bad it's too late, it already was made the decision was made before Henry was FA, and Trey's contract was what it was.. there is no correlation.. You're living on hindsight and don't have a time machine...

I'm on here just laughing at some of post seems all offense and keep talking about the offense. we literally have an historically bad defense, and this is what doesn't make sense?

No one is saying the defense isnt an issue, but we are lying to ourselves if we think the offense is doing well.

Offensively they are:
20th in the league in points per play
19th in 1st quarter points so its not strictly an issue of them falling behind early and becoming one dimensional
19th in yards per play
30th in turnovers
21st in completion percentage
20th in yards per pass attempts
32nd in rush yards per attempt

The defense has completely laid an egg in three games this year resulting is Ls, but the wins this team has is also largely on the back of the defense holding teams to 17 or fewer points. Even in the three wins this year where the Cowboys offense hasnt been one dimensional has the offense really looked good? I would say they have at times, but mostly they've been below average to really bad.

 

[blueblood70]

No one is saying the defense isnt an issue, but we are lying to ourselves if we think the offense is doing well.

Offensively they are:
20th in the league in points per play
19th in 1st quarter points so its not strictly an issue of them falling behind early and becoming one dimensional
19th in yards per play
30th in turnovers
21st in completion percentage
20th in yards per pass attempts
32nd in rush yards per attempt

The defense has completely laid an egg in three games this year resulting is Ls, but the wins this team has is also largely on the back of the defense holding teams to 17 or fewer points. Even in the three wins this year where the Cowboys offense hasnt been one dimensional has the offense really looked good? I would say they have at times, but mostly they've been below average to really bad.

and again i'm not having this conversation.. You show me a defense that gives up under 20 points a game and I'll show you how our offense looks good all of a sudden... That's my point I don't care about the rest of that right now if you look at the lopsided scores in the three home losses you'll see why we're ranked like that when you're behind and playing one-dimensional football that's the problem..

The rest of it can be tweaked it can be fixed on offense it can't but defense show me where any of that can be fixed by one player edition or a week off for a bye week it cannot hopefully get a lot of good players back in the next two or three weeks but without the defense playing well this is sometimes when an offense looks like... If you add in the fact that defense is getting no turnovers they're not giving our offense any short fields they're limiting our possessions because they're giving up so many long drives and time of possession eating drives the defense is causing problems for the offense if you can't see it I know you're blind and you don't watch a lot of football I call people casual when they look at all the monies on the offense they look at they wanna see higher scores 'cause that's what fans wanna see they wanna see exciting games they start blaming the offense especially here we have so much money invested in the office side of all they're expecting more so much so that they're not looking at it could be failing more so get our defense..

You're making excuses for the defense I don't care about the wins I only care about the losses and we weren't even in the game by halftime because of the defense they can't play against good teams this was Dan Quinn's defense last year all the good teams that got beat by except for Seattle and we had to basically not punt in that game in order to win on offense you can't function as a team when your defense shows no resistance against teams that are dangerous on offense you're out of the game after the first quarter apparently and you think that that's OK it puts no pressure on the offense to play perfectly and start playing tight one-dimensional football with the whole world knows what's coming it's very hard to function like that.

No I think in the Pittsburgh game we were very balanced and I think we could be that way if the office didn't come into every game but even you're gonna have to score 30 points and I believe you know that in the first quarter of these good games we are almost for sure we all look at this fan to go we're losing this game Yup 15 minutes into the game you can see the defense didn't come to play and that's sad at home and it's sad that fans keep looking at the offense yes the offense needs to be tweaked but I believe we have what we need on the team with practice film study adjustments and yes our offensive coordinator needing to do more with certain players I've already got into it on other threads I'm going on a rant today I tried to stay away from this place maybe I should have made it a week to 10 days 'cause I'm angry right now I'm tired of seeing anything about the offense this 80% of our problems are on defense 80% you saying anything different i have....ee 80% of our problems are on defense.

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[Diehardblues]

The question I have and have had for years :

is what are fans willing to do in order to send a signal to Jethro Jone$. The only thing that will get his attention.

If not , nothing is going to change . It hasn’t in 30 years.