How Long Does Garret Get? Realistically.

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If we fail to make the playoffs again next year, that will be 2.5 seasons under Garrett. We will have a pool of 40 games in which to judge him, so the question is how long does he get?

Gailey was fired after 2 seasons, Campo got 3 seasons, Wade got 3.5 seasons and that was with a playoff win.

So 2.5 is not out of line with what other coaches have been given. I have been reading on here that we have to give Garrett 4 or 5 seasons to put his plan in place. Well it doesnt appear previous coaches were giving that much time and some had playoff success as well.

I think if Garrett fails to make the playoffs again next year after having a full offseason and OTAs, then I think it will be very hard to sell to the fans that he is the right guy for the job. Just curious to see if others feel the same way.
 
2 more years. Possibly 3. It isn't like he came into a ready made football powerhouse.
 
Beast_from_East;4355173 said:
If we fail to make the playoffs again next year, that will be 2.5 seasons under Garrett. We will have a pool of 40 games in which to judge him, so the question is how long does he get?

Gailey was fired after 2 seasons, Campo got 3 seasons, Wade got 3.5 seasons and that was with a playoff win.

So 2.5 is not out of line with what other coaches have been given. I have been reading on here that we have to give Garrett 4 or 5 seasons to put his plan in place. Well it doesnt appear previous coaches were giving that much time and some had playoff success as well.

I think if Garrett fails to make the playoffs again next year after having a full offseason and OTAs, then I think it will be very hard to sell to the fans that he is the right guy for the job. Just curious to see if others feel the same way.

I think coaches no matter what team should be given no less than 3 years at that stage you see where you are in terms of improvement. I think for sure Garrett gets this year and possibly 1 more unless things just go downhill.
 
At least next year, by that point he would have had 2 1/2 years.
 
You have to at least give him 3 full seasons......he has 2 more to show what he has and what direction this team is going.....

You have to give him at least 2 more seasons.....
 
I hope they fire him today and actually get someone with experience, and preferable someone who has skins on the wall, but in reality, he'll be here another year stinking up the joint. Bad Karma again for Jerry to hire his future Coach, while Wade watched.
 
Well he definately gets all of next year.

Depending on rather they make the playoffs, or how close they were to making it, and what, if any, playoff success they had would determine I'd think if he gets anything more than another year beyond that.


I'd say 3 full seasons as the HC is pretty likely because that seems to pretty much be the standard for Jerry.
 
2 more years. look up and down the roster, the talent is pathetic. holes everywhere.
 
BraveHeartFan;4355206 said:
Well he definately gets all of next year.

Depending on rather they make the playoffs, or how close they were to making it, and what, if any, playoff success they had would determine I'd think if he gets anything more than another year beyond that.


I'd say 3 full seasons as the HC is pretty likely because that seems to pretty much be the standard for Jerry.
And about the time we figure out he's no good, Romo/Ware/Witten and others will be 2 years older.
 
From Jerry? Probably three more years.

Just about long enough to coincide with the end of Romo, I'm afraid.

Actually, I want to edit my post. Three more years if things go very badly. If we show even a glimmer of hope, Jerry will re-start the clock, which could keep him in there almost forever.

In fact, as old as Jerry is getting, I wouldn't be surprised if Garrett is the last coach Jerry hires. He's obviously very comfortable with this relationship.
 
Firing coaches every other year just makes you Danny Snyder.

Three years minimum, with an evaluation of direction of the team at that point.

Baring special circumstance, that should hold for any head coach. Garrett probably should get more.
 
Too soon to give him a definite leash.

I will say that if he doesn't improve markedly next season - and I don't mean just W/L record - then I would cut the cord early and see if you can salvage a year of Romo's window.

However if he gets a decent OC, cleans up the current coaching staff, does a better job with game day planning and management and makes as good of personnel decisions as he can under the current circumstances then I certainly have no problem giving him a few more years even if we miss the playoffs again.

But that's a pretty big if.
 
They should just give him a lifetime contract, truthfully with the GM he's working with the Head Coach position is rendered meaningless here.

Realistically, he'll get at least 2012 and 2013 I would think.
 
If Garrett doesn't get us into the playoffs next year that would have to be it. I am hoping that they can him this year. The man has made some serious coaching errors this year. He is not coaching material and fitted more for OC. On the way out he can take that Fat slob Ryan with him.
 
I would never hire a HC based on a player and how many years he may have left. I hope Romo gets his ring along with the rest of the players but when you hire a HC the mindset should be beyond any current player on the roster. My hope is Garrett does pan out to be the long term HC of the Cowboys and still here years after Romo is sitting at home with his kids.
 
Beast_from_East;4355173 said:
If we fail to make the playoffs again next year, that will be 2.5 seasons under Garrett. We will have a pool of 40 games in which to judge him, so the question is how long does he get?

Gailey was fired after 2 seasons, Campo got 3 seasons, Wade got 3.5 seasons and that was with a playoff win.

So 2.5 is not out of line with what other coaches have been given. I have been reading on here that we have to give Garrett 4 or 5 seasons to put his plan in place. Well it doesnt appear previous coaches were giving that much time and some had playoff success as well.

I think if Garrett fails to make the playoffs again next year after having a full offseason and OTAs, then I think it will be very hard to sell to the fans that he is the right guy for the job. Just curious to see if others feel the same way.


Ideally speaking, I would want him to stick around for a good 4-5 seasons to see if he can build this team into a contender, but I'm willing to re-evaluate that stance if the team does not show serious progression.

We've seen him go 5-3 after he inherited a 1-7 team. Now, we've seen him get the team to 8-8, which is a slight improvement from their 6-10 mark of 2010. The next step is to get this team into the playoffs; anything less than the playoffs from this point should place Garrett in the hotseat. If the Cowboys don't make the playoffs next year, then I would be on board with his dismissal.

I'm sure that most Cowboys fans are looking for longevity and stability at the head coaching position, but we also want results, and so should Jerry.
 
If you have another playoff run collapse next year than you have to get rid of him.

It's obvious he isn't ready for this job and his whole get better mantra is already stale.
 
Judas;4355205 said:
I hope they fire him today and actually get someone with experience, and preferable someone who has skins on the wall, but in reality, he'll be here another year stinking up the joint. Bad Karma again for Jerry to hire his future Coach, while Wade watched.

This. He aint the guy. Not a leader, not a difference maker. Hello 8-8.
 
Two more years.

The roster needs to be churned but it's going to take a few more seasons to add players, whether through the draft or free agency, who meet the standards Garrett is trying to implement. Right now only a handful of players on this roster have what it takes to compete for championships. Replacing the rest will not be easy but it is possible if Jerry stays out of the way.
 
By the time Garrett figures it all out, you can kiss the Ware, Romo, and Witten era goodbye. This would be ok with a GM and scouting dept that have a plan in place like GB did with Favre, but considering it took us about 8 years to replace Aikman, I'm pretty sure that a lot of people on this board will not outlive any true success by the Dallas Cowboys in the future.

You have to also consider that teams like GB, NO, Indy, NE, SF, Pittsburgh have will be getting better or staying relevant during this time. It's not just how much our team improves, but also how we stack up against other teams.

There truly is no difference between the Cowboys and Commanders anymore. People might say Snyder is a much worse front office manager, but the results are quite similar when you really break it all down. The main difference is that they end up drafting in better positions than us. That's it.
 

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