CFZ How many more years will Dak be a starter?

[CowboyRoy]

Man…..they don’t know if they want to call me a hater or lover I can’t win with either side lol. I just want to like Dak and be realistic about the situation…..like let me have that lol.

Then you just have to be realistic and accurate.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Then you just have to be realistic and accurate.

Ok, lets have your breakdown on how the contract would look.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ok, lets have your breakdown on how the contract would look.

How would I do it or how will jerry do it?

I think it will be 50 million per year or over. I would bet its at least 4 or 5 years in length.

If I was doing it I would give him a huge signing bonus that gets spread out over the 5 years. Then I would make his base salary really small the first 4 years and have a huge balloon salary year in the final year. That gives you 4 years of low cost for the QB and then one wash out year that eats a large part of the money. If you move on from Dak then that 5th year can be a down year where you eat the money all in one year, get a higher pick and let your rookie QB develop.

If you can parlay that with a trade of Dak and get at least a first in return that would help bring in more young talent for your rookie QB.

 

[CowboyoWales]

How would I do it or how will jerry do it?

I think it will be 50 million per year or over. I would bet its at least 4 or 5 years in length.

Guaranteed money, length and whether that cash or CAP hit (taking into account we have bonus arrears to pay).

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Thats some dumbed down logic there. The Cowboys had their best season in a long time with another 12 wins, 2nd year making the playoffs in a row and finally getting the Brady monkey off their back winning a playoff game in Tampa.

Those are team accomplishments remember? You want to have it both ways. You want to say he should get 50 million because of what his team helped him do but don’t want to give him sole blame for losses. That’s what you call dumbed down logic.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Guaranteed money, length and whether that cash or CAP hit (taking into account we have bonus arrears to pay).

If I was doing it I would give him a huge signing bonus that gets spread out over the 5 years. Then I would make his base salary really small the first 4 years and have a huge balloon salary year in the final year. That gives you 4 years of low cost for the QB and then one wash out year that eats a large part of the money. If you move on from Dak then that 5th year can be a down year where you eat the money all in one year, get a higher pick and let your rookie QB develop.

If you can parlay that with a trade of Dak and get at least a first in return that would help bring in more young talent for your rookie QB.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Then you just have to be realistic and accurate.

I’m doing both.

 

[CowboyoWales]

If I was doing it I would give him a huge signing bonus that gets spread out over the 5 years. Then I would make his base salary really small the first 4 years and have a huge balloon salary year in the final year. That gives you 4 years of low cost for the QB and then one wash out year that eats a large part of the money. If you move on from Dak then that 5th year can be a down year where you eat the money all in one year, get a higher pick and let your rookie QB develop.

If you can parlay that with a trade of Dak and get at least a first in return that would help bring in more young talent for your rookie QB.

How much of that $50m per year is guaranteed?

 

[CowboyRoy]

How much of that $50m per year is guaranteed?

Great question. Now your getting into finer details.

How would you structure it? Similar to what I have done? I think you guarantee the first 3 or 4 years.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I’m doing both.

Not always

 

[CowboyRoy]

Those are team accomplishments remember? You want to have it both ways. You want to say he should get 50 million because of what his team helped him do but don’t want to give him sole blame for losses. That’s what you call dumbed down logic.

I dont want anything both ways. You point to picks, but then it had little affect on the team as we still won 12 games and won a playoff game. Its not like Dak's picks brought the team down.

Unless of course you cherry pick the Niners game and even then the score was tied 9-9 at halftime.

Anyone giving ANY player sole blame for losses and wins has no idea about football.

 

[JohnBoy]

Daks contract wouldn’t be 50 million annually.

Probably because they will restructure, right? Ok, but isn't that at the expense of even more expensive years in the future, and/or extending him further out, committing to an even longer term?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I dont want anything both ways. You point to picks, but then it had little affect on the team as we still won 12 games and won a playoff game. Its not like Dak's picks brought the team down.

Unless of course you cherry pick the Niners game and even then the score was tied 9-9 at halftime.

Anyone giving ANY player sole blame for losses and wins has no idea about football.

That’s beside the point. Just because the team is good enough to beat bad teams throwing multiple picks doesn’t mean we should be ok with it. He hasn’t done enough to warrant a raise in pay. Maybe that changes after this year but last year was not a good year for him he’s better then that.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That’s beside the point. Just because the team is good enough to beat bad teams throwing multiple picks doesn’t mean we should be ok with it. He hasn’t done enough to warrant a raise in pay. Maybe that changes after this year but last year was not a good year for him he’s better then that.

More inaccuracies. Cowboys beat plenty of good teams last year. 12 wins is no joke in the NFL. Eagles, Giants, Vikings among other good teams we beat.

So now you dont understand how contracts work? Salaries typically go up over time. Inflation? So the same services costs more. Especially these new contracts.

So its not the service that is getting better, its the cost for the service getting higher.

Dak did have a down year in regard to picks. Down year by his standards, but still a good year.

And its easy to understand why that was with the receiver problems and his injury at the beginning of the season.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Daks contract wouldn’t be 50 million annually.

If you add the $60m+ bonus arrears then the CAP hit would probably be close to $50m per, especially as im sure France is factoring in that under the present contract Dak would get paid $34m cash in 2024 (salary and roster bonus) and he'll want some of that factored in.

I dont see how both sides get it done before the season and we're in another stand-off as in 2020/21.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

More inaccuracies. Cowboys beat plenty of good teams last year. 12 wins is no joke in the NFL. Eagles, Giants, Vikings among other good teams we beat.

So now you dont understand how contracts work? Salaries typically go up over time. Inflation? So the same services costs more. Especially these new contracts.

So its not the service that is getting better, its the cost for the service getting higher.

Dak did have a down year in regard to picks. Down year by his standards, but still a good year.

And its easy to understand why that was with the receiver problems and his injury at the beginning of the season.

So when Baker Mayfield signs he will get over 50 million due to inflation?

Dak did not get 12 wins…talk about inaccuracies…..I said he got some multiple pick games they won against bad teams is what I said….im a Dak homer but cut it out. You’re doing the same crap the anti Dak crowd does…..

 

[Blitzen]

I'm willing to be open-minded enough to give Dak this season to prove critics wrong. But I hate the thought of extending him right now, which is exactly what the Cowboys are going to do. I've never seen any other Cowboys starting QB go untested the way Dak has. Staubach had to earn his stripes over Craig Morton. Danny White had to wait years behind Staubach. Aikman had to deal with Steve Walsh. Romo had to wait 3 and a half years before old man Parcells gave him a shot. Dak, on the other hand, had the starting job fall into his lap his rookie season and the closest Dak has come to a QB controversy is Cooper Rush, a player who got cut at the end of training camp that no other team wanted. It's sickening!!

Yeah, I’ve been ready to move on for awhile. This team’s goal is to routinely make the postseason. Note that half the league makes the playoffs, it’s not as big of a deal anymore. They are approaching NBA/NHL number of teams qualifying.

 

[khiladi]

If he’s not in Dallas after this year, his career will tail off quietly. You’ll forget all about him until he hangs it up. Then you’ll see some announcement of his retirement a few years down the road.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah, I’ve been ready to move on for awhile. This team’s goal is to routinely make the postseason. Note that half the league makes the playoffs, it’s not as big of a deal anymore. They are approaching NBA/NHL number of teams qualifying.

14/32....= half? Hmmmm.....

 

[calicowboy54]

I’m going to say max is 5 years. It could be much less, and I tend to believe it will be more like 3 more years. The reason I think this is his playing style and injury history.

QB’s that play way into their 30’s are very good at managing a disruptive pocket. They excel at picking apart defenses with precision and timing. That is not Dak’s game. He and the offense as a whole revolves around the rushing attack. Dak can complement a dominant run game by taking advantage of an overzealous defense.

The problem is he has lost noticeable speed and agility-and he was never a fantastic runner to begin with. He has poor take off speed and poor lateral agility (relatively speaking) which will make him a target in the pocket this year and any season that follows it.

I say all this knowing that if he and the team continue to rack up regular season wins (despite next to zero playoff success), he will get several more years to start.

until he retires