How many super-bowls does Tony Romo win with the 2016-2024 Cowboys?

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losses are losses right? and when your #2 offense scored almost 50% less than its normal output. your offense choked.

now, people make excuses for Romo, because he was their favorite and they don't like Dak. and Some defend Dak and some don't.

nothing different. its trying to differentiate between choking and bigger choking. take your pick. end result is the same.
I happen to think people's definition of "choking" is kina important. Soon as you trot out wins and losses...."leading the offense"...you are way off course.

That applies to Dak too. The 14 free/easy 1st half points is choking right out the gait.

As you attack romo and HIS fans...don't lecture me about doing the same for Dak.
 

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I don't think the Cowboys ever had player health in mind. Emmitt, Troy, Tony, Zeke...just to name some I recall...all played pretty hurt. These guys are tough....they WANT to play (it's not always about just the money for some). But at some point the league and the teams have to have player safety priority.

Romo coming in for a series...and instantly pulled....is a very strange mystery. Dak being the starter is not. Jerry even said "don't mess with a streak". Like vegas grandma at the slots.
What mystery? Romo got live snaps as the backup quarterback prior to the postseason in a meaningless game as far as playoff seeding was concerned. That makes sense as long as the assumption is Romo would step in and replace Prescott if he got knocked out of a game. Just like any other backup quarterback they could depend on. That is not the narrative some people have continued to push.
 

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What mystery? Romo got live snaps as the backup quarterback prior to the postseason in a meaningless game as far as playoff seeding was concerned. That makes sense as long as the assumption is Romo would step in and replace Prescott if he got knocked out of a game. Just like any other backup quarterback they could depend on. That is not the narrative some people have continued to push.
Why not let him finish it? Like any "backup" in a meaningless game. You save your starter.

Having Romo in is not a mystery. Putting Dak back in...is.
 

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Why not let him finish it? Like any "backup" in a meaningless game. You save your starter.

Having Romo in is not a mystery. Putting Dak back in...is.
Are you saying why they put Prescott back in for that game or..?
 

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I happen to think people's definition of "choking" is kina important. Soon as you trot out wins and losses...."leading the offense"...you are way off course.

That applies to Dak too. The 14 free/easy 1st half points is choking right out the gait.

As you attack romo and HIS fans...don't lecture me about doing the same for Dak.
well, you tend to keep wanting to go an prove Dak choked. I don't think anyone argued that.
and now people applying their own definition of choke and we end up with 3,484 definitions.

when you under perform, then you under perform. Romo under performed against the giants no denying that. if you want to be considered good to elite, then perform when time comes. neither has. that's definition of choking. you point to Interceptions, blah blah blah. well, Romo didn't play at a high level against Giants. so is interceptions the definition of choking?

and again, they both choked. you are trying to argue who choked more than the other. forgetting the fact they both choked.
 

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Simple minded approach. Keep moving that goal post we can do this all day.

Yards does not equal greatness. Look at Daks yards and TDs vs GB. Fave value stats one would think he played lights out but in reality he was atrocious 90% of the game until starters and certain 2nd string guys were pulled. Smoke and mirrors

Now Crayton could have contributed dang near 60-70 yards on two catches alone but thats in hindsight as every quarterback suffers from dropped balls.

Romo was also missing his biggest weapon as he was hurt and pretty anemic all game while Dak had two perennial 1k recievers that were healthy. Craytons was nothing special.

Also Romo had us tied going into half time and ahead going into the 4th with no WR weapons. Dak on the other had has us down at half and entering the 4th both games
yeah, throw facts and its simple minded. too funny.

now yards is not greatness. what is greatness then? wins. did Romo win against the giants...but hey, let blame Crayton, the refs, the OL, the Giants defense being elite, but not Romo, because you Favor Romo. you liked Romo.

and if CD doesn't drop two passes in first quarter. then extend drives. then he doesn't pout on the side line. then Dak doesn't lose confidence in him and forced to go to Cook (since no other WR was stepping up all year). see, spinning is easy.

and the end results is the end result. we lost. both games. both under performed. now you want to argue what? one choked more than the other? end result. they both choked.

sorry, I am not into moral victories. Romo 2-4 in the playoffs. bottom line.
 

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yeah, throw facts and its simple minded. too funny.

now yards is not greatness. what is greatness then? wins. did Romo win against the giants...but hey, let blame Crayton, the refs, the OL, the Giants defense being elite, but not Romo, because you Favor Romo. you liked Romo.

and if CD doesn't drop two passes in first quarter. then extend drives. then he doesn't pout on the side line. then Dak doesn't lose confidence in him and forced to go to Cook (since no other WR was stepping up all year). see, spinning is easy.

and the end results is the end result. we lost. both games. both under performed. now you want to argue what? one choked more than the other? end result. they both choked.

sorry, I am not into moral victories. Romo 2-4 in the playoffs. bottom line.
Total yards and TDs are meaningless at face value and only matters to fantasy football minded people. The perfect example would be Daks stats against GB. Face value you would think he had a hell of a game but in reality he was atrocious until backups were inserted into the game.

I would rather have a QB who grinds out 250yards and plays clean ball then someone who throws 400+ yards but has several turnovers. Turnovers create momentum changes and can spiral games down hill fast no matter how well the team played. Let me guess you think if one QB throws for 3 TDs and another has 0 the first one is better if they both win because look at them QB Tds.

The only person to blame that game was Crayton. He single handily cost us 10-14 pts. Doesn't get much clearer then that.

Bottom line they both share similar post season records but anyone with two active brain cells that understands sports will know Romo played better in the post season and it's not even close.
 

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Been covered here already but imo, none. I was a big fan of Romo but he made alot of mistakes in big games. I remember some of those teams coming out flat too. Dont know if it comes from the top or what but, outside of the Tampa Bay game last year in the playoffs, Ive come to expect a first round beatdown bounce.
 

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Zero. Just being 100% honest. Tony was practically equivalent to Dak. This is coming from me who wants to cut Dak, never thought we should have signed him ins 2020, or paying him even more now.
I would have preferred Minshew, or even Winston as a stop gap.
This
 

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Total yards and TDs are meaningless at face value and only matters to fantasy football minded people. The perfect example would be Daks stats against GB. Face value you would think he had a hell of a game but in reality he was atrocious until backups were inserted into the game.

I would rather have a QB who grinds out 250yards and plays clean ball then someone who throws 400+ yards but has several turnovers. Turnovers create momentum changes and can spiral games down hill fast no matter how well the team played. Let me guess you think if one QB throws for 3 TDs and another has 0 the first one is better if they both win because look at them QB Tds.

The only person to blame that game was Crayton. He single handily cost us 10-14 pts. Doesn't get much clearer then that.

Bottom line they both share similar post season records but anyone with two active brain cells that understands sports will know Romo played better in the post season and it's not even close.
I never said that alone is. end results.

and there is a 100 different stats.

but when your team scores almost 50% less than regular season out put. against 17th ranked defense. then you have to start to look deeper. you notice Romo complete 50% of his passes. as opposed to his 65% during the season. you start to think Romo didn't have a good game. then you look further, his YPA was down from 8.1 to 5.5....that's bad, his YPC dropped from 12.6 to 11....everything points to him struggling as a passer in that game. then you look at the game itself. of that 200 yards and only 18 completions. 30 yards and 3 completions came in last 2 minutes desperation time playing against a soft defense. further 92 of his yards came in teh 4th quarter. meaning he had about 100 yards through 3 quarter. I don't think anybody can say that's any good. when you passing game struggles, then the running game struggles and looking through, that's what happened in the game.

so no, the focus wasn't just on yards and completion %...every statistic dropped. going through how the game transpired, it clearly shows Romo struggled in that game. there is no denying it.

and you keep going back to Dak was worse. never denied that. not sure why you keep repeating the same thing. the difference between bad and worse!! choke and bigger choke. the end result was is the same. bad, choke.

I don't care who played better. moral victory for you..... end result is not acceptable. all other excuses aside. so if you are into moral victories to make yourself feel better, then have it. you don't need my permission nor approval
 

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Zero. Just being 100% honest. Tony was practically equivalent to Dak. This is coming from me who wants to cut Dak, never thought we should have signed him ins 2020, or paying him even more now.
I would have preferred Minshew, or even Winston as a stop gap.
Romo wasn't remotely like Dak. He was infinitely better and understood the game far more than what we've had to suffer these past several seasons.
 

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Total yards and TDs are meaningless at face value and only matters to fantasy football minded people. The perfect example would be Daks stats against GB. Face value you would think he had a hell of a game but in reality he was atrocious until backups were inserted into the game.

I would rather have a QB who grinds out 250yards and plays clean ball then someone who throws 400+ yards but has several turnovers. Turnovers create momentum changes and can spiral games down hill fast no matter how well the team played. Let me guess you think if one QB throws for 3 TDs and another has 0 the first one is better if they both win because look at them QB Tds.

The only person to blame that game was Crayton. He single handily cost us 10-14 pts. Doesn't get much clearer then that.

Bottom line they both share similar post season records but anyone with two active brain cells that understands sports will know Romo played better in the post season and it's not even close.
CFiH gets mad when people blame Crayton. But when talking about Dak it was everything else.
 

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yeah, throw facts and its simple minded. too funny.

now yards is not greatness. what is greatness then? wins. did Romo win against the giants...but hey, let blame Crayton, the refs, the OL, the Giants defense being elite, but not Romo, because you Favor Romo. you liked Romo.
So you saying you didn't?

Hmmm...how about that. If true...you say they are the same chokers yet like dak and don't like Romo.

Interesting.
 

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So you saying you didn't?

Hmmm...how about that. If true...you say they are the same chokers yet like dak and don't like Romo.

Interesting.
when did I say I like dak and that he wasn't a choker? from your prespective if I don't incessently, constantly, 24x poop on Dak, then I like dak? right? wow lets talk about simple mindedness

been saying all along, Dak choked. Romo Choked. one choking more than the other is irrelevant.

you keep spinning away trying to prove Romo didn't choke and it was everybody else's fault but him. which is absolutely false. he had a hand in it.

now, if you are into moral victories and want to celebrate Romo choking less than Dak. then so be it. do it. enjoy it. have fun.

end result. Romo 2-4 in playoffs. Dak 2-5 in playoffs.
 

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That would put Tony Romo retiring at 44. How many superbowls does he win in that eight year span?

We had some really good teams in those eight years but our bus driver of a qb hasn’t capitalized!!
Assuming he stays upright is a big ask

Maybe none.
But certainly they go further in the playoffs
 

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Romo played with our best Center, RG, and LT in their primes. He played with Witten his entire career. He played with T.O., Terry Glenn, Miles Austin, Keyshaun Johnson, Patrick Crayton, Cole Beasley, and most of Dez Bryant's career. He played with Spears and Ratliff and DWare, among respectable LBs and DBs. I'm sick of all the excuses made for Romo like he didn't play with good teams. He led one team to the #1 seed in the NFC and crapped the bed in the first playoff game.

Unless he was the young Romo's body with the old Romo's head, he would have never even reached an NFC title game; that's what he would have won.
 

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when did I say I like dak and that he wasn't a choker? from your prespective if I don't incessently, constantly, 24x poop on Dak, then I like dak? right? wow lets talk about simple mindedness

been saying all along, Dak choked. Romo Choked. one choking more than the other is irrelevant.

you keep spinning away trying to prove Romo didn't choke and it was everybody else's fault but him. which is absolutely false. he had a hand in it.

now, if you are into moral victories and want to celebrate Romo choking less than Dak. then so be it. do it. enjoy it. have fun.

end result. Romo 2-4 in playoffs. Dak 2-5 in playoffs.
You cant answer a very simple question....dude.no wonder we dont get along. Why cant you just directly answer? You hate romo just say it. Free youself. Join the crowd you berate...those that hate dak. You and they are the same thats why you wont admit it it. Hating a dallas cowboy? That according to you....is the same player you love and defend? Tsk tdk..something not right there.

Plus you think there arent degrees of performance. Applying your stupid logic...theft is the same as murder....both a crime why make any issue of it? Stupid. Illogical. Its all NOT the same...lazy irresponsible take.

I do get what you are saying about having to go through every other team issue first before dare criticizing dak.

Er...romo.


Dak is a bigger loser in the playoffs than romo?
 

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Romo played with our best Center, RG, and LT in their primes. He played with Witten his entire career. He played with T.O., Terry Glenn, Miles Austin, Keyshaun Johnson, Patrick Crayton, Cole Beasley, and most of Dez Bryant's career. He played with Spears and Ratliff and DWare, among respectable LBs and DBs. I'm sick of all the excuses made for Romo like he didn't play with good teams. He led one team to the #1 seed in the NFC and crapped the bed in the first playoff game.

Unless he was the young Romo's body with the old Romo's head, he would have never even reached an NFC title game; that's what he would have won.
Whivh game did he crap the bed? I just want to make sure i get on the same page yer on.

We can also maybe talk about the games HE didnt crap the bed on but other people did.

Yoyr time to shine...prove what a good fan you are!
 

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You cant answer a very simple question....dude.no wonder we dont get along. Why cant you just directly answer? You hate romo just say it. Free youself. Join the crowd you berate...those that hate dak. You and they are the same thats why you wont admit it it. Hating a dallas cowboy? That according to you....is the same player you love and defend? Tsk tdk..something not right there.

Plus you think there arent degrees of performance. Applying your stupid logic...theft is the same as murder....both a crime why make any issue of it? Stupid. Illogical. Its all NOT the same...lazy irresponsible take.

I do get what you are saying about having to go through every other team issue first before dare criticizing dak.

Er...romo.


Dak is a bigger loser in the playoffs than romo?
how did this thread go from hating Dak to now Hating Romo. do you even listen to yourself? do you even read your own responses? or just having emotional reaction comments.

and I appreciate what you just did proving my point about 20 comments ago. People around here take sides and argue incessantly, they spin, excuse, they love, hate one player or another. seemingly you Love Romo (can I say that?). and now because I am not drooling over romo agreeing with your man crush, then I must hate Romo! right? because it has to be binary!!! right? its Love to death or Hate with passion?

and I never said don't criticize Dak. I have criticized Dak and the rest of the team. but you want me just to criticize Dak and nothing else. because can I dare to say you hate Dak (didn't you just say I hate Romo).

and we get to the final point. what I have said about 10 comments ago. you are trying to decide with a loser and a bigger loser. the end result? losers. does it matter? or are you just into moral victories. but I am glad after having tried to spin in so many of your comments, that you finally expressed it clearly.

again. does it matter who is a bigger loser? if that's all you are trying to accomplish, then you missed the forest because of the trees. step back a bit. but if you are into moral victories. then have it it. enjoy. gloat. whatever floats your boat. go for it. don't wait for my approval.
 
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