How much better could we be after the draft?

[Nightman]

Much better drafts of late is a bit misleading

Claiborne
Crawford
Johnson
Wilber

This draft up until now had been god awful

A direct correlation with why we are still 8-8

3 probable starters, I know that's god awful

 

[Verdict]

Good post except you're forgetting one thing. You still have Jeff Heath and JJ Wilcox patrolling at safety. For me Seattle showed just how bad we really are there and how important that position has become with offenses creating match-ups.

It's become an organizational afterthought but we ignore safety at our own peril.

Or maybe we have healthy safeties for the first time in forever and they turn out to be who we hoped they would be and we end up with (gasp) serviceable safety play at a low cap cost. Shudder. It is unthinkable!!

 

[Verdict]

Hey, don't forget James Hanna....and please forget Danny Coale and Caleb McSurdy.

I will say this ...... I have no idea what they thought they had found in McSurdy... regardless of the scheme change, I don't know what they were thinking when they made that pick.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think there is a good probability that Dallas is significantly better this year if they draft well. Ideally, they can walk away with at least three starters from this draft if they stick to their plan and do not take guys based on potential or because they were a "good deal."

Past history tells us Jerry will find a way to muck it up this May but I am counting on more level heads in the War Room who will allow smart decisions to prevail. BTW, if anyone knows where Larry Lacewell lives, please go and kidnap him 48 hours before the draft and do not let him have any communication with Jerry until the last pick is made.

 

[BigStar]

Everyone thought Flozell Adams was a bust too until we put decent talent around him, and he ended up being good enough that we wanted to keep him around. Crawford got injured. That doesn't mean that he can't play. He might turn out to be a bust, but it is possible that he would have been the most dominant player on our defensive line last year. We just don't know yet.

FLO was never close to being considered a bust (2nd rounder out of Michigan State that only dropped because of hearing loss)...maybe you are thinking of Gurode who had a shaky early start to his career? FLO actually started out of position as a G in his rookie season.

 

[Risen Star]

I think there is a good probability that Dallas is significantly better this year if they draft well. Ideally, they can walk away with at least three starters from this draft if they stick to their plan and do not take guys based on potential or because they were a "good deal."

Past history tells us Jerry will find a way to muck it up this May but I am counting on more level heads in the War Room who will allow smart decisions to prevail. BTW, if anyone knows where Larry Lacewell lives, please go and kidnap him 48 hours before the draft and do not let him have any communication with Jerry until the last pick is made.

Can't every team improve in this draft?

 

[JBS]

3 probable starters, I know that's god awful

I don't know what's worse, the fact that these guys suck or that they are starters

 

[Nightman]

I don't know what's worse, the fact that these guys suck or that they are starters

I'm just not ready to close the book on them after 2 years.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Can't every team improve in this draft?

Sure, in theory.

Why I expect Dallas to improve with a solid draft producing at least three starters:

1. They have a franchise QB.
2. The o-line is solid for once and can improve.
3. Age is being addressed on the d-line.
4. Last year's rookies will be better.
5. Playmakers at all skill positions on offense.
6. Lucks; odds are good that injuries will not be the common theme again this year.
7. And, just for your RS…Matt "Brittle Bones" Johnson will be healthy and win a starting job.

 

[Alexander]

I will say this ...... I have no idea what they thought they had found in McSurdy... regardless of the scheme change, I don't know what they were thinking when they made that pick.

Special teams. Try hard plucky right kinda guy.

 

[Common Sense]

My original post did not say anything about hitting on every single pick. You seem to forget we have 6 picks in the 7th round alone. At what point did I suggest that we could find 6 pro bowlers in the 7th round?

You want realistic? Yes, by all means, let's be realistic.

Should we be able to find a starter in round 1? I would think that is a more than reasonable expectation.

Can we find a starter at a non premier position in round 2 (excluding OT, corner, QB, receiver and pass rusher). That sounds reasonable to me too.

Running backs are found every year as late as the 6th round who end up starting. Morris of the Commanders readily comes to mind. So why is it a stretch to think we can't find one in the 3rd?

Offensive guard is a fairly low priority for most teams and they tend to fall in the draft. So you think it isn't likely that we could find a rotational quality/eventual starter guard in the 3rd?

We most likely will have 8 picks in the 4th, 5th and 7th rounds combined. You don't think we could draft a fullback, a punter, and at least have the chance of finding ONE more decent player or two out of that many picks? Seriously? You think it is THAT FAR FETCHED?

There's a difference between saying a starter can be found in any round and saying a starter can be found in every round.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

FLO was never close to being considered a bust (2nd rounder out of Michigan State that only dropped because of hearing loss)...maybe you are thinking of Gurode who had a shaky early start to his career? FLO actually started out of position as a G in his rookie season.

Going into 2003 and Parcells first year there was all manner of concern about his ability to play. Solomon Page was picked the year after Adams, 1999, and they were awful up until then. Parcells decided to resign him and there were all manner of questions as to how smart that was.

 

[JBS]

I'm just not ready to close the book on them after 2 years.

That's fine. .That's also not the point

The point is up until now they suck

Can't miss on a top 6 pick, that's beyond bad... That's not even factoring that that pick cost us our second as well

 

[edmon]

OUCH! Optimist at the ranch take more arrows than pioneers at a powwow.

 

[BigStar]

Going into 2003 and Parcells first year there was all manner of concern about his ability to play. Solomon Page was picked the year after Adams, 1999, and they were awful up until then. Parcells decided to resign him and there were all manner of questions as to how smart that was.

I agree with most of that but Page was taken not to replace FLO, but simply bc he also dropped into the second round unexpectedly (FLO performed well playing out of position as a rook). I did forget about that terrible season prior to Parcells but I remember Page being the bust, not Flo. You are correct in that Flo's 2002 season was especially bad but the problem with FLO was the price tag on top of the "erratic" play. When he was resigned it was for the top dollar @ Tackle and many felt he was undeserving (me included). He did turn it around under Parcells and his play then met his pay (great GM move by BP).

 

[Verdict]

FLO was never close to being considered a bust (2nd rounder out of Michigan State that only dropped because of hearing loss)...maybe you are thinking of Gurode who had a shaky early start to his career? FLO actually started out of position as a G in his rookie season.

No. I am talking about Adams. We were not planning on keeping Adams, but when Parcells got here he reviewed the tape on Adams and suggested that we should keep him around and that he had not played that badly. It turned out Parcells was right and Flo turned out to be pretty solid.

 

[Verdict]

There's a difference between saying a starter can be found in any round and saying a starter can be found in every round.

I did not say that in my original post. You obviously did not read it closely enough.

 

[T-RO]

Funny thing but 31 other teams also show up to draft players. Since the Cowboys are seeded in the middle of the draft...statistically speaking they will improve themselves no better or worse (on average) than the other teams.

The Cowboys could slide even further behind other teams in the talent game...just as easily as gain ground.

 

[BigStar]

No. I am talking about Adams. We were not planning on keeping Adams, but when Parcells got here he reviewed the tape on Adams and suggested that we should keep him around and that he had not played that badly. It turned out Parcells was right and Flo turned out to be pretty solid.

I guess I just didn't see FLO as a bust type of player. He played out his contract as a 2nd round starting tackle who bombed in 2002 but played well up to that point. Being average and demanding top dollar is different than the bust label in my book. Flo would have had no problem finding work, his price tag bc of his position made this team hesitate to pony up the BIG dollars for him. They had no problem incorporating him into their plans (started since his rookie season) before his contract was up? It was more so the team got by on a cheap tackle contract and had to make the decision if they were going to pony up...considering his 2002 season.

 

[theSHOW]

Much better drafts of late is a bit misleading

Claiborne
Crawford
Johnson
Wilber

This draft up until now had been god awful

A direct correlation with why we are still 8-8

Who is Johnson?