How much cap trouble can this team be in come 2015

[Zimmy Lives]

2014 and 2015 major free agents expected to be resigned:

Tyron Smith
Dez Bryant
Bruce Carter
DeMarco Murray
Dan Bailey

Not to mention replacing quite a few veteran starters.

I agree with all of these except Murray. If he was AP then I would think he would be a priority but, alas, he is no AP.

 

[Future]

I heavily disagree with this assertion. He has a good eye for the ball, 98.9 percent of the time he can make a tackle by himself. Has amazing speed, and a pretty good line backing I.Q[the play on snelling for the falcons last year, and many others] And he takes good angles..

I thin Carter is a very good player, don't get me wrong, but there is less of a premium on LBs in the 43.

Lets compare this team to the Bears. If Lee is our Urlacher, Carter is Briggs. I'm keeping Urlacher 100% of the time, so if we are in cap trouble, it makes more sense to sign other premium positions, like LT, before OLB. If we can afford to keep Carter, I would love to, but if Holloman, or someone else, steps up, then we can get away with letting Carter go.

Expendable might not have been the right word...

 

[CashMan]

I thin Carter is a very good player, don't get me wrong, but there is less of a premium on LBs in the 43.

Have you watched teams, that run the Tampa-2?

 

[Oh_Canada]

We should be fine cap wise in 2015. Austin, Ratliff, Mack, Livings, Scandrick, Free and Orton all should be off the books by then. They can resign TSmith, Dez, Carter and maybe Murray and still be OK. Ware, Witten, Carr, Lee and Romo all have room in their deals to restructure and Ware and Witten are almost already past the point of being cut-able if they fall off. Obviously they have to keep drafting well and hope some young guys like Leary, Parnell, Crawford, Church and TWilliams step up. The cap is expected to rise and continue to rise after next year, when the new TV contracts kick in.

Demarco Murray will be a 27 year-old r.b by than, unless he becomes a Matt Forte (his ceiling) type player and somehow manages to remain healthy for two years I doubt the Cowboys re-sign and if they do it will be at an affordable price.

 

[Future]

Have you watched teams, that run the Tampa-2?

More than anything, they have to be good in space. Thats easier to find than a guy who can play MLB and cover a ton of space in the middle of the field or a DE/34 OLB who can get to the quarterback.

 

[slomoxn]

I believe it would be foolish to let Carter walk, I don't know if he is better than Lee but he is just as good. Besides that after all these years of us whining and moaning about not developing players and going off waivers we are now going to start letting players (good players) that are being developed and trained walk and believe we can do a plug and play with any ole LB? If Carter plays as well this year as he did last while healthy this group would be a bunch of idiots for letting him walk. If they can pay some of the scrubs we have been stuck with over the years they can surely find something for him.

 

[CashMan]

More than anything, they have to be good in space. Thats easier to find than a guy who can play MLB and cover a ton of space in the middle of the field or a DE/34 OLB who can get to the quarterback.

You need 2 good ones.

In this NFL, you are not paying RBs, so there is some money there, and Austin, will probably get cut soon, and you also have the Free money coming off the books.We do not have a superstar Safety, so you are not paying anyone there, and Spencer is probably gone, after this season, so cap wise, I think they are ok.

 

[iceman117]

Why in the heck would Spencer accept a 3 year deal from the team who has franchised him the past two years?

Hatcher could be back next year but I wouldn't be surprised if he walks.

Well when I said a 3 year deal I meant guaranteed money wise, if it makes him feel better you could pad the years to 7 years but only guarantee the first 3... He's going to be 30 next year no one is going to give him a ton of years of guaranteed money, I don't think

 

[iceman117]

I thin Carter is a very good player, don't get me wrong, but there is less of a premium on LBs in the 43.

Lets compare this team to the Bears. If Lee is our Urlacher, Carter is Briggs. I'm keeping Urlacher 100% of the time, so if we are in cap trouble, it makes more sense to sign other premium positions, like LT, before OLB. If we can afford to keep Carter, I would love to, but if Holloman, or someone else, steps up, then we can get away with letting Carter go.

Expendable might not have been the right word...

I get what your saying, if we were strapped with money he would be the odd man out because Dez and Smith have to be signed no matter what, but Carter needs to stay in Dallas kind of like how the bears didn't want to pay Briggs what he wanted but also didn't let him go either..

 

[cowboys2233]

Carter is already better then Lee IMO. Thats not a knock on Lee either, just a praise for Carter. They're both complete LBers but Carter just has more speed.

That...is just crazy talk. Not a knock on Carter because he's very good, but Lee is the best linebacker out there. Yeah, I'm talking to you Willis and Bowman. This guy might get 200 tackles this year.

 

[iceman117]

That...is just crazy talk. Not a knock on Carter because he's very good, but Lee is the best linebacker out there. Yeah, I'm talking to you Willis and Bowman. This guy might get 200 tackles this year.

He has to stay on the field for 16 games to do that, and I'm not sure if he will because I haven't really seen him do it, he had the injury bug even in college. They said it when we drafted him if he can be healthy he probably would have been a top 15 pick, same thing with Carter. The whole reason we were able to get these guys in the second round was because they both couldn't stay on the field at the college level. Obviously they both have the ability to be pro bowlers and like you said Lee is one of the very best there is. I think Carter is too. I just pray they stay healthy enough to show the rest of the league what we as Cowboys fans already know.....

 

[Nightman]

yeah sure the cap will rise. We have heard that fantasy before. A lot of the money forecasted to go into the cap is now going into benefits. It is not going to rise as much as some here think.

It's simple math, the cap HAS to go up. It's tied to revenues and they are set to skyrocket with the new TV deals. It went up this year and last year when everyone said no way. Plus the NFLPA knows they got taken on this last CBA and won't put up with any shenanigans. I expect the cap, plus the rollover from this year to be around 132m. This year it was at 120m will the cap penalty and we made that with no problem.

 

[Nightman]

Well when I said a 3 year deal I meant guaranteed money wise, if it makes him feel better you could pad the years to 7 years but only guarantee the first 3... He's going to be 30 next year no one is going to give him a ton of years of guaranteed money, I don't think

Spencer is gone. If he didn't take a new deal this year, then he won't sign a bargain basement deal to come back. If he has a half way decent year, he will test FA and get more money from someone than we can give.

 

[Direwolf63]

Letting Carter go is comical. He has the potential to be a multiple Pro Bowler. If Holloman is all that, Kiffin can groom him to play strong side. He doesn't fit there today, but in a year or 2, he might.

 

[slomoxn]

He has to stay on the field for 16 games to do that, and I'm not sure if he will because I haven't really seen him do it, he had the injury bug even in college. They said it when we drafted him if he can be healthy he probably would have been a top 15 pick, same thing with Carter. The whole reason we were able to get these guys in the second round was because they both couldn't stay on the field at the college level. Obviously they both have the ability to be pro bowlers and like you said Lee is one of the very best there is. I think Carter is too. I just pray they stay healthy enough to show the rest of the league what we as Cowboys fans already know.....

I believe Carter only had one injury that caused him to miss time in college.

 

[slaga]

dont we get 5 million back from the cap penalty next season?

No. The Cowboys will get the same salary cap as the rest of the NFL, unless Mara can find a way to penalize them again.

 

[conner01]

really no way to know the answer till you see the contracts we sign in between. we will figure out a way to make them all work. but if you really want the cap to get under control the only way to do it is draft well. those guys are cheap for a few years then most of them you replace, while keeping the very good ones.also i would expect some boost in the cap by then with a new tv deal. every team thats has a good qb not playing under his rookie deal will be up against the cap. just the way it is with the costs of qb's being so high

 

[iceman117]

I believe Carter only had one injury that caused him to miss time in college.

yes, his knee, but he would have been a top 10 pick if that happen, then he was hurt most of his rookie year and when he played last year he was great but he got hurt again so 3 years in a row injured...i pray he stays healthy, an the last thing i want if for him to get hurt but i was just saying its the reason we were able to get him the second round

 

[onlyonenow]

It's simple math, the cap HAS to go up. It's tied to revenues and they are set to skyrocket with the new TV deals. It went up this year and last year when everyone said no way. Plus the NFLPA knows they got taken on this last CBA and won't put up with any shenanigans. I expect the cap, plus the rollover from this year to be around 132m. This year it was at 120m will the cap penalty and we made that with no problem.

you keep trying to ignore all the underlying situations. The New CBA is pouring a lot of money into benefits that people were expecting to go to the cap. The only reason the cap went up at all last year was the money Mara stole from us and the skins. Andrew Brandt, who was with the Packers front office for years appears every Wednesday on Sirius NFL channel at around 630 EST. He talks about this every now and then. He has been dead right on the Cap the last couple of years and he is thinking it will not go up more than 2-3 million next year and MAYBE 5 million in 2015.

 

[dogberry]

We need to have a seance and call up Adam to answer our salary cap questions.

Usually the answer was yes.