How Scott Linehan has created one of the NFL’s most lethal offenses in Dallas

[waving monkey]

He won a national championship as a college player. He won a national championship as a college coach. He won several championships as an NFL coach.

That constitutes winning at every level. My point stands.

I'll let it pass except he couldn't win in the NFL without Jerry Jones help

 

[waving monkey]

Think you're mistaking every level with every job. He also didn't win a national title at Oklahoma State but that is beside the point I was making.

Is Belichick any less a HOF coach because he failed to a much greater extent as HC of Browns than Jimmy did with Phins? Of course not, to assert so is height of absurdity.

just pointing out the fallacy of your argument,Jimmy Johnson was a great coach there have been many

 

[AsthmaField]

When Jimmy Johnson came to Dallas he already had Michael Irvin on the roster and the first overall pick with Aikman sitting there. Anyone would have taken Troy. Johnson had little or nothing to do with bringing either one of them to Dallas.

Then, the next year, he tried to draft two defensive players before finally settling on Emmitt Smith.

What if Landry would have drafted someone other than Irving in his last draft?

What if Landry would have won the final game of 1988 against Green Bay and Jimmy would have walked in to the 2nd overall pick instead of the 1st? It was a close game and whoever lost got first overall. Dallas would have taken Tony Mandarich. They briefly thought about it even with the first overall but Troy was just too good a prospect.

What if Jimmy's attempted trade up for Ray Agnew would have worked? What if his attempted trade up for James Francis would have been accepted? Either one would have seen Emmitt in another uniform. It was blind luck that he ended up in Dallas.

If those things (that were very close to happening) would have happened, Jimmy wouldn't have been coaching Troy, Emmitt, or Michael and history would likely be way different.

The bottom line is that the triplets were what drove those super bowls and Johnson was only responsible for getting one of them in Dallas (Emmitt) and he tried like hell to draft someone else first.

Really good coach but had some luck on his side and wasn't the draft guru people made him out to be.

 

[waving monkey]

I hear ya "Field" but as we defenders of truth say luck is part of the game

 

[bigbob]

jeez

It is true in the Giants game only 10 points and then inverse game only 20 both losses both the defense played good then the Green Bay game they only needed a touchdown instead of that last field goal and they win the game the offense can and should do better

 

[bigbob]

When Jimmy Johnson came to Dallas he already had Michael Irvin on the roster and the first overall pick with Aikman sitting there. Anyone would have taken Troy. Johnson had little or nothing to do with bringing either one of them to Dallas.

Then, the next year, he tried to draft two defensive players before finally settling on Emmitt Smith.

What if Landry would have drafted someone other than Irving in his last draft?

What if Landry would have won the final game of 1988 against Green Bay and Jimmy would have walked in to the 2nd overall pick instead of the 1st? It was a close game and whoever lost got first overall. Dallas would have taken Tony Mandarich. They briefly thought about it even with the first overall but Troy was just too good a prospect.

What if Jimmy's attempted trade up for Ray Agnew would have worked? What if his attempted trade up for James Francis would have been accepted? Either one would have seen Emmitt in another uniform. It was blind luck that he ended up in Dallas.

If those things (that were very close to happening) would have happened, Jimmy wouldn't have been coaching Troy, Emmitt, or Michael and history would likely be way different.

The bottom line is that the triplets were what drove those super bowls and Johnson was only responsible for getting one of them in Dallas (Emmitt) and he tried like hell to draft someone else first.

Really good coach but had some luck on his side and wasn't the draft guru people made him out to be.

True Jimmy did luck out with some players but he knew how to utilize the players he had and he picked a good staff and he kept changing things until they worked really good.
he also wanted the team to play good not just win if they went and played bad and won he still came down on them and that's where he differs from Garrett

 

[waving monkey]

True Jimmy did luck out with some players but he knew how to utilize the players he had and he picked a good staff and he kept changing things until they worked really good.
he also wanted the team to play good not just win if they went and played bad and won he still came down on them and that's where he differs from Garrett

do you know that

 

[bigbob]

do you know that

Just my opinion dude.

 

[AsthmaField]

True Jimmy did luck out with some players but he knew how to utilize the players he had and he picked a good staff and he kept changing things until they worked really good.
he also wanted the team to play good not just win if they went and played bad and won he still came down on them and that's where he differs from Garrett

I didn't mention Garrett but yes, he was different in that he could be upset after a victory. He is different from pretty much every coach in that way.

I'm not so sure his Machiavellian methods would work in a world where players switch teams left and right... but it still might. I don't know.

Like I've already said... he was a really good coach and was the right coach at the right time in Dallas. Loved his Hurricanes too. I mean, they were a boatload of fun to watch. Probably my favorite college teams of all time.

IMO his tenure in charge of the Miami Dolphins is a nice representation of what he might have done in Dallas had he not had Troy, Michael, Emmitt and walked in to a team with Nate Newton, Mark Tuinei, and Kevin Gogan.

 

[waving monkey]

Just my opinion dude.

after post games coaches study the video's of game just played then they take it to
the class room and go over assignments with the players. It's a teaching opportunity
before they return to the practice field on Wednesday.I believe all teams do this.

 

[bigbob]

after post games coaches study the video's of game just played then they take it to
the class room and go over assignments with the players. It's a teaching opportunity
before they return to the practice field on Wednesday.I believe all teams do this.

That's true but Jimmy used psychology to get the players to play harder for him I got this from listening to Aikman talk about how Jimmy coached and how he reacted to various games Jimmy didn't like sloppy even in a Win because he knew against a good team sloppy would would be a loss

 

[BAT]

I'll let it pass except he couldn't win in the NFL without Jerry Jones help

What has Garrett won with the almighty Jerry Jones?? What has Jerry won after Jimmy's players got too old or too injured?? We all know who the true architect of the 90's Cowboys, Jerry was more checkbook Jimmy was the football guru.

Hurricanes were dominant and for a long time even after Jimmy set up that program. Does Jerry get credit for that too??

 

[BAT]

just pointing out the fallacy of your argument,Jimmy Johnson was a great coach there have been many

What part of my argument is fallacy? And what does there have been many great coaches have to do with anything we're discussing?

 

[BAT]

Stopped

When Jimmy Johnson came to Dallas he already had Michael Irvin on the roster and the first overall pick with Aikman sitting there. Anyone would have taken Troy. Johnson had little or nothing to do with bringing either one of them to Dallas.

Then, the next year, he tried to draft two defensive players before finally settling on Emmitt Smith.

What if Landry would have drafted someone other than Irving in his last draft?

What if Landry would have won the final game of 1988 against Green Bay and Jimmy would have walked in to the 2nd overall pick instead of the 1st? It was a close game and whoever lost got first overall. Dallas would have taken Tony Mandarich. They briefly thought about it even with the first overall but Troy was just too good a prospect.

What if Jimmy's attempted trade up for Ray Agnew would have worked? What if his attempted trade up for James Francis would have been accepted? Either one would have seen Emmitt in another uniform. It was blind luck that he ended up in Dallas.

If those things (that were very close to happening) would have happened, Jimmy wouldn't have been coaching Troy, Emmitt, or Michael and history would likely be way different.

The bottom line is that the triplets were what drove those super bowls and Johnson was only responsible for getting one of them in Dallas (Emmitt) and he tried like hell to draft someone else first.

Really good coach but had some luck on his side and wasn't the draft guru people made him out to be.

Stopped counting your what ifs at #6 .... why does it seem that the most successful people also seem to be the luckiest? Because the harder you work, the more prepared you are, the luckier you become.

Jimmy won a lot of championships, and it wasn't due to luck. He not only out worked you, he also out smarted you too.

 

[BAT]

I'll let it pass except he couldn't win in the NFL without Jerry Jones help

How generous of you to let it pass, especially since you were one claiming an assertion I did not make.

 

[AsthmaField]

Stopped


Stopped counting your what ifs at #6 .... why does it seem that the most successful people also seem to be the luckiest? Because the harder you work, the more prepared you are, the luckier you become.

Jimmy won a lot of championships, and it wasn't due to luck. He not only out worked you, he also out smarted you too.

There weren't even six what if's.
I may not be smart... but I can count to three.

 

[AsthmaField]

I hear ya "Field" but as we defenders of truth say luck is part of the game

It is... but that doesn't change the fact that he tried to trade for two nobodies before he "settled" for Emmitt. Similar to Prescott in the 2016 draft.

Or the fact that Michael was already in Dallas when Jimmy arrived.

Or that any team in need of a QB with the first pick in the 1989 draft would have taken Aikman.

Remember, it is Johnson's draft acumen that I'm talking about here... not his ability to coach.

As a coach, I believe Jimmy was above reproach and was one of the best. He did need Norv Turner to finally have a competent offense but as the head guy and knowing what buttons to push on his players (and coaches)... he was stellar.

IOW, the triplets wouldn't have equaled super bowls for just anyone. Johnson was among the very best of all coaches.

 

[ConstantReboot]

It is true in the Giants game only 10 points and then inverse game only 20 both losses both the defense played good then the Green Bay game they only needed a touchdown instead of that last field goal and they win the game the offense can and should do better

There was no reason for us to be trading field goals for Greenbay's touchdowns during that game. Especially when its 3rd and short and we take Zeke out of the picture during the play.

 

[ConstantReboot]

It is... but that doesn't change the fact that he tried to trade for two nobodies before he "settled" for Emmitt. Similar to Prescott in the 2016 draft.

Or the fact that Michael was already in Dallas when Jimmy arrived.

Or that any team in need of a QB with the first pick in the 1989 draft would have taken Aikman.

Remember, it is Johnson's draft acumen that I'm talking about here... not his ability to coach.

As a coach, I believe Jimmy was above reproach and was one of the best. He did need Norv Turner to finally have a competent offense but as the head guy and knowing what buttons to push on his players (and coaches)... he was stellar.

IOW, the triplets wouldn't have equaled super bowls for just anyone. Johnson was among the very best of all coaches.

I wish that Garrett would have half the balls in trying to win games like Jimmy. Garrett is too conservative and would happily settle for a field goal rather than go for it on 4th down. Not Jimmy. He was win at all cost. No matter what.

I wish Garrett would carry that same approach with this team. We would have probably whooped Green Bay in the playoffs.

 

[bigbob]

There was no reason for us to be trading field goals for Greenbay's touchdowns during that game. Especially when its 3rd and short and we take Zeke out of the picture during the play.

The spike hurt and that is on jg
Then 2 pass plays which is on linehan
Then the fg when they needed a td.