How Should the Cowboys Handle 2nd Round Picks in the Future?

[Cowboys5217]

This is not really a poll, I just wanted to read what others think.

2nd round picks have been somewhat problematic for the Jerry Jones era for the last 25 years. Gambles, fliers, and reaches on character and/or injury problem players.

The philosophy needs to change.

I'd just go B.P.A. from now on. Makes things much easier.

Heck, I'd be open to trades of 2nd round picks as a common practice.

The Wild-catter approach has bitten us in the butt too many times.

 

[MarcusRock]

Eh, it's just super duper bad luck. Just target a guy you think can help us and do your best not to overdraft.

 

[Jipper]

just go bpa that is actually "avialable" - aka take players that will be suspended bc of character issues or have injury issues off the table.....pretty simple honestly

 

[The Quest for Six]

For how this organization does a pretty good job in the first round with their selections, they really do a poor job in the second round selecting needs, troubled or seriously injured players.....They really need to select the best player available regardless of position without the red flags....

 

[Cowboys5217]

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/cowboys-2nd-round-picks

Adding this for context. There are a few good finds on this list, but man there sure are a lot of busts too.

 

[Adiba1977]

Trade them

 

[MikeB80]

Give each of them an uzi and a pound of coke and have them drive around the rich neighborhoods in indy at the combine......the ones who don't get pulled over are smart enough to draft.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

Its just bad luck, just like the Browns and 1st round QB's... I guess they should trade those away every year too.

 

[Majic]

Always felt there was something to this, the lack of success in the 2nd round. I feel they tend to reach for players in this round, and pick players that are not high up on other draft boards of other teams. I think they'd would have been a good chance both Sam Williams and the TE this year would have still been there in 3rd round

 

[JD_KaPow]

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/cowboys-2nd-round-picks

Adding this for context. There are a few good finds on this list, but man there sure are a lot of busts too.

Looking at that list, it's actually better than I was thinking. Lee, Lawrence and Diggs were hits. Bennett, Carter, Awuzie, C. Williams were all solid contributors. Gregory and Smith were both high-risk-high-reward gambles who flashed but mostly frustrated. Escobar was blah. Hill's the one big bust in the last decade, with Joseph likely to make it two.

Second-rounders are far from a sure thing. As usual, people expect more from the draft than it actually delivers.

Edit: I wrote this before I saw the Sam Williams news.

 

[Plankton]

This is not really a poll, I just wanted to read what others think.

2nd round picks have been somewhat problematic for the Jerry Jones era for the last 25 years. Gambles, fliers, and reaches on character and/or injury problem players.

The philosophy needs to change.

I'd just go B.P.A. from now on. Makes things much easier.

Heck, I'd be open to trades of 2nd round picks as a common practice.

The Wild-catter approach has bitten us in the butt too many times.

Have a stricter policy on what character concerns can be worked with and what cannot be worked with.

Place a greater emphasis on intelligence.

Lock Jerry and Stephen out of the war room.

Remember, when you think that you are getting a bargain in the second round, there's a real reason why the player is available, and that reason is generally not good.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is not really a poll, I just wanted to read what others think.

2nd round picks have been somewhat problematic for the Jerry Jones era for the last 25 years. Gambles, fliers, and reaches on character and/or injury problem players.

The philosophy needs to change.

I'd just go B.P.A. from now on. Makes things much easier.

Heck, I'd be open to trades of 2nd round picks as a common practice.

The Wild-catter approach has bitten us in the butt too many times.

I've said this on this site a few times but our issues in the 2nd round are more exaggerated than anything. Since 2013 we have drafted Demarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory, Jaylon Smith, Chido Awuzie, Connor Williams and Trevon Diggs....IMO, jury is still out on guys like Joseph and Sam Williams. Yes there were misses but I'm not giving up a 2nd round pick just because I hit on half of my 2nd rounders lol. That's silly.

 

[fredp22]

Larry Allen, Godfrey, Coakley, Flozell Adams, Andre Gurode, Sean Lee, DeMarcus Lawrence, Awuzie, Trevon Diggs (and other starters that werent busts) were all 2nd round picks. Misses are magnified because of spot but Jerry has probably been about average in Pct that are successful.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Looking at that list, it's actually better than I was thinking. Lee, Lawrence and Diggs were hits. Bennett, Carter, Awuzie, C. Williams were all solid contributors. Gregory and Smith were both high-risk-high-reward gambles who flashed but mostly frustrated. Hill's the one big bust in the last decade, with Joseph likely to make it two.

Second-rounders are far from a sure thing. As usual, people expect more from the draft than it actually delivers.

I said the same thing. We have grabbed a lot of good players in the 2nd. When you actually look at the names it doesn't look nearly as bad as advertised.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Larry Allen, Godfrey, Coakley, Flozell Adams, Andre Gurode, Sean Lee, DeMarcus Lawrence, Awuzie, Trevon Diggs (and other starters that werent busts) were all 2nd round picks. Misses are magnified because of spot but Jerry has probably been about average in Pct that are successful.

I agree and I bet in comparison to the rest of the NFL they probably do better in the 2nd round than most teams.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Have a stricter policy on what character concerns can be worked with and what cannot be worked with.

Place a greater emphasis on intelligence.

Lock Jerry and Stephen out of the war room.

Remember, when you think that you are getting a bargain in the second round, there's a real reason why the player is available, and that reason is generally not good.

These guys are NFL players though. You can argue in order to play this sport you are a character concern lol. NFL isn't for everyone. To be good enough to play at that level you have to be a little off especially at positions like defensive end and linebacker. You have to enjoy and like pain. That's not normal lol.

 

[speedkilz88]

Always felt there was something to this, the lack of success in the 2nd round. I feel they tend to reach for players in this round, and pick players that are not high up on other draft boards of other teams. I think they'd would have been a good chance both Sam Williams and the TE this year would have still been there in 3rd round

Two lesser TEs went off the board way before their 3rd round pick. Quit with that crap, it isn't true. Schoonmaker is an elite athlete that is also coming in as a top blocker who is a high character guy.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Honestly I'm not sure that the Cowboys have been that bad via the draft, even in the dreaded 2nd round. Depending on the time period of the data it obviously fluctuates, but only about 20-30% of 2nd round picks resign with the team that drafted them for a 2nd contract. About the same percentage of 2nd round picks are out of the league entirely after their rookie deals.

There have been some obvious bad picks (Trysten Hill), but overall they are ahead of the curve according to the data. Not saying we should let the Cowboys off the hook for bad picks, but we need to accept that the draft is a lot more misses than hits for every team.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Two lesser TEs went off the board way before their 3rd round pick. Quit with that crap, it isn't true.

I've stopped responding to Schoonmaker posts. I'm all for people wanting other guys but it's how they go about it. Straight creating lies. The Cowboys did not reach for him according to their board I don't know why people don't understand that lol.

 

[phildadon86]

Stop taking risks. Draft players who have a good work ethic, and want to play. You see a character risk? You run. Not walk. You missed class? You're off my list at this point. Yeah its drastic but its better than the alternative.