How Should the Cowboys Handle 2nd Round Picks in the Future?

[John813]

Draft players with a felony already. That way, the second felony cancels out the first one or something like that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Stop taking risks. Draft players who have a good work ethic, and want to play. You see a character risk? You run. Not walk. You missed class? You're off my list at this point. Yeah its drastic but its better than the alternative.

Guys like Chido, Trevon weren't risks though. Or Gavin Escobar.

 

[RS12]

With a football operations staff that does not include anyone with the last name of Jones.

 

[CowboyRoy]

This is not really a poll, I just wanted to read what others think.

2nd round picks have been somewhat problematic for the Jerry Jones era for the last 25 years. Gambles, fliers, and reaches on character and/or injury problem players.

The philosophy needs to change.

I'd just go B.P.A. from now on. Makes things much easier.

Heck, I'd be open to trades of 2nd round picks as a common practice.

The Wild-catter approach has bitten us in the butt too many times.

Trade them if they cant change how they view their 2nd round picks.

The 2nd round seems to be the round they reach for need and take a risk on a player because of it.

BPA would be the smartest thing to do. First round is where you should factor in need as its less likely to be as much of a risk.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

I've said this before- Jerry wants to be the hero. He wants to prove his genius as a GM by getting "first round value" from a player who has slipped because of injuries or character issues. Swinging for the fences is risky. He's not smarter than everyone else.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I've stopped responding to Schoonmaker posts. I'm all for people wanting other guys but it's how they go about it. Straight creating lies. The Cowboys did not reach for him according to their board I don't know why people don't understand that lol.

yah but you have to stop with the "I trust their board and what they tell me" nonsense.

Did they even tell tell us he was the BPA on their board or are you just assuming it?

"according to their board" has little to do with whether they reached or not.

They could have a 7th round talent ranked as a 2nd round pick and would it matter? Thats the whole point. Their board might be inaccurate or they may have simply put him high on their board by factoring in need to highly.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I've said this before- Jerry wants to be the hero. He wants to prove his genius as a GM by getting "first round value" from a player who has slipped because of injuries or character issues. Swinging for the fences is risky. He's not smarter than everyone else.

Yep the 2nd round is clearly the JERRY round. Its the ONE round he still gets to do what he wants and take risks. The round he tries to be smarter than everyone else.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I think they should pass on drafting in the second round.

Just don't go up to the podium and let all the teams behind you jump in with their draft card, then re-enter the draft at the top of the third round.

That will show everyone!

 

[Cowboys5217]

Thanks for all of the replies so far. Gives me some reading and pondering for later today.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Yep the 2nd round is clearly the JERRY round. Its the ONE round he still gets to do what he wants and take risks. The round he tries to be smarter than everyone else.

A popular saying is stupid is as stupid does.

Is this not also the round that Will McClay has a say in also? Is he not just as stupid as Jerry and the rest of the coaching staff for taking a risk on marginal players?

 

[phildadon86]

Guys like Chido, Trevon weren't risks though. Or Gavin Escobar.

Never said they were. They also never got suspended.

 

[CowboyRoy]

A popular saying is stupid is as stupid does.

Is this not also the round that Will McClay has a say in also? Is he not just as stupid as Jerry and the rest of the coaching staff for taking a risk on marginal players?

He is if its really him making the call. But somehow this really smells of Jerry.

 

[phildadon86]

yah but you have to stop with the "I trust their board and what they tell me" nonsense.

Did they even tell tell us he was the BPA on their board or are you just assuming it?

"according to their board" has little to do with whether they reached or not.

They could have a 7th round talent ranked as a 2nd round pick and would it matter? Thats the whole point. Their board might be inaccurate or they may have simply put him high on their board by factoring in need to highly.

If their board said Jospeh was a better prospect than Humphrey. That tells me all i need to know about their board

 

[CowboyRoy]

If their board said Jospeh was a better prospect than Humphrey. That tells me all i need to know about their board

LOL........screw their board.

The fact that anyone would trust their board or defend it is laughable in and of itself.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Never said they were. They also never got suspended.

Of course they didn't. Alvin Kamara is suspended. I mean Randy Gregory getting suspended was inevitable. They should've saw that one coming. But that's not their history of 2nd rounders. Randy, Sam and probably Joseph are the only ones off the top I can think of who had character issues.

 

[removed_20241105]

Just treat the 2nd round like the first round and don’t choose significant behavioral or injury histories. No reason to be afraid of the pick otherwise.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

yah but you have to stop with the "I trust their board and what they tell me" nonsense.

Did they even tell tell us he was the BPA on their board or are you just assuming it?

"according to their board" has little to do with whether they reached or not.

They could have a 7th round talent ranked as a 2nd round pick and would it matter? Thats the whole point. Their board might be inaccurate or they may have simply put him high on their board by factoring in need to highly.

Cowboys insiders have said for an awhile even before the draft that Laporta was their #1 ranked tight end. When everyone was wowing over Kincaid and Mayer people reported it was Laporta they liked. First round pick comes and Kincaid is there and Mayer and they chose Mazi Smith. IF you pay attention everything they've said it is right to this point. They liked Schoonmaker.

Guys consider a "reach" based on what guys like Mayock and Mel Kiper say. It's the dumbest thing. So these guys who watch highlights have more knowledge of a player than teams who spend millions of dollars on a scouting department? It's just dumb lol. Have y'all ever asked why guys like Mel Kiper aren't working for NFL teams?

 

[phildadon86]

Of course they didn't. Alvin Kamara is suspended. I mean Randy Gregory getting suspended was inevitable. They should've saw that one coming. But that's not their history of 2nd rounders. Randy, Sam and probably Joseph are the only ones off the top I can think of who had character issues.

Hill had a lazy issue.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Just treat the 2nd round like the first round and don’t choose significant behavioral or injury histories. No reason to be afraid of the pick otherwise.

I think that's the issue with the 2nd round. The best talent is typically guys who fell for some reason. Whether it's injury concerns, behavioral.....otherwise they would've been 1st round picks.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Hill had a lazy issue.

Ok I was speaking more so about criminal behavior but yes he too had an issue but we know that was a a Maranelli goof up. Honestly I just didn't think the guy could play.