How to band-aid this run defense?

Hawkeye0202

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How about instead of allowing long drives, get off the field quicker? I like how the only option is turnovers or long consuming drives without a big play. Find that middle ground. Allowing long drives, even if they result in FGs, isn't a good thing. Our defenses in the past were homerun or bust. If we weren't getting turnovers, we got cooked. Can't depend on turnovers at the rate we got them, especially come playoff time. Need to find a way off the field on 3rd downs. Find a way to stuff some plays for losses, pressure the QB, make good plays in the secondary, make those open field tackles. This defense is poor at all that.

It's like in baseball. If your only strength is to hit homers, but can't win any other way, you won't be that good. As you can't count on those consistently.

A lot of Dallas blowout wins, came when they got a crazy amount of turnovers, usually against weaker teams.
I think his goal is/was strong run defense, keep everything in front of you and force teams into long drives or turnover by downs. But you can't do that if you are giving up chunks of run plays. It throws the whole concept/scheme off.........
 

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I got a chance to watch Akoye's breakdown of our run defense against the Ravens. Excellent watch. What was most surprising, is that our veteran players just don't know how to play fundamental football:

-Neither DE consistently sets the edge, getting killed against outside runs which are their responsibility.
-DT's get moved consistently down the field
-The linebackers/safeties are either overaggressive or too passive.
-Poor tackling has lead to big plays

Some changes they need to consider"

-Playing bigger personnel. Start Kneeland over Parsons at DE, move Parsons to strong-side linebacker. I would consider doing what the Eagles did to the Saints last week and play a 5 man line.

-Consider benching Wilson, Carson. Poor tackling leads to big plays.

-Dummy down the playbook, go back to the basics.

-See if there is an impact DT out there in the trade market, perhaps from a rebuilding team.
Strong LB has TE duty. Move Parsons back to MLB in a 4-3 that he ran in college, run the exact same attack 4-3 D that lets the MLB hunt and freelance, and this will be solved ASAP.
 

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Who would of you benched? DLaw/Parsons are among the biggest culprits but neither is losing their starting job. Overshown played more last week and he was awful, very slow to react or too aggressive. Wilson is our most physical player on a very finesse unit, but he is always freelancing and misses a ton of tackles.
In other words, there is zero cohesiveness........not playing as a team. But that's not unusual for installing a new defensive scheme. Lots of players out there are thinking too much rather reacting
 

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I don't know what's going on with our defense. I don't know how we could have gotten this bad in one year. When we actually gained at LB and our 1T gained weight.

An easy start is to motivate these guys like Quinn did his first 2 year. I mean, there used to be 5-6-7 guys within 2 yd. Of the ball carrier smothering him.
That energy level is gone.
 

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No more band-aids ......... if we are building this defense around Parsons ....... we need to switch to a 3-4

If we are building this team around Dak ....... he needs a stud RB .........

Stop wasting time and make the changes.
 

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In other words, there is zero cohesiveness........not playing as a team. But that's not unusual for installing a new defensive scheme. Lots of players out there are thinking too much rather reacting
Think it's them being too aggressive. This isn't the same scheme as Quinn's, playing the run on the way to the QB, must play with more control and discipline.
 

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Zimmer defense was bottom 5 in NFL last 2 years in Minnesota

This is not an aberration
His defense for the most part was very good in that spot, yes had some lean years, but also remember they were starting a rebuild, especially at the corner position.
 

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I have no issue with mistakes. It Law made a mistake that’s one thing. Did he not give effort?
You can not have vets making rookie mistakes like this. He has played long enough there is no excuse for him to lose contain and go inside with 3 others rushing inside. He's trying to be a hero and make a play but in reality he hurts the team more than helps. This isn't the 1st time either, he often tries busting the play but if he can't get there then they win bigtime. If he is unwilling to hold the edge as he is supposed to do then he needs to be benched.
 

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I got a chance to watch Akoye's breakdown of our run defense against the Ravens. Excellent watch. What was most surprising, is that our veteran players just don't know how to play fundamental football:

-Neither DE consistently sets the edge, getting killed against outside runs which are their responsibility.
-DT's get moved consistently down the field
-The linebackers/safeties are either overaggressive or too passive.
-Poor tackling has lead to big plays

Some changes they need to consider"

-Playing bigger personnel. Start Kneeland over Parsons at DE, move Parsons to strong-side linebacker. I would consider doing what the Eagles did to the Saints last week and play a 5 man line.

-Consider benching Wilson, Carson. Poor tackling leads to big plays.

-Dummy down the playbook, go back to the basics.

-See if there is an impact DT out there in the trade market, perhaps from a rebuilding team.
The problem with trading for defensive tackles is that most teams value them and would want high draft choices for them. The Giants and Washington have top tier defensive tackles. I can’t see them trading those guys especially to Dallas. The Cowboys need to play out the string, hire new coaches, use the 100 million in cap space to rebuild the defense. Draft the top players on the board and go for it next season. The pressure is there for Jerry to have to leave his comfort zone.
 

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You can not have vets making rookie mistakes like this. He has played long enough there is no excuse for him to lose contain and go inside with 3 others rushing inside. He's trying to be a hero and make a play but in reality he hurts the team more than helps. This isn't the 1st time either, he often tries busting the play but if he can't get there then they win bigtime. If he is unwilling to hold the edge as he is supposed to do then he needs to be benched.
Guys make mistakes though lol. It’s gonna happen.
 

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You can not have vets making rookie mistakes like this. He has played long enough there is no excuse for him to lose contain and go inside with 3 others rushing inside. He's trying to be a hero and make a play but in reality he hurts the team more than helps. This isn't the 1st time either, he often tries busting the play but if he can't get there then they win bigtime. If he is unwilling to hold the edge as he is supposed to do then he needs to be benched.
The ends were crashing down nearly every time, and it happened no matter who was in there. Why do we think the ends always had contain on these plays? If the T blocks down the DE can scrape down and the LB needs to get out to contain. I can see the argument for both sides there, but based on the frequency DEs chased the dive I would assume this is correct and Zimmer planned on doing gap exchanges on these zone runs.
 

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The problem with trading for defensive tackles is that most teams value them and would want high draft choices for them. The Giants and Washington have top tier defensive tackles. I can’t see them trading those guys especially to Dallas. The Cowboys need to play out the string, hire new coaches, use the 100 million in cap space to rebuild the defense. Draft the top players on the board and go for it next season. The pressure is there for Jerry to have to leave his comfort zone.
I have heard it's a good draft year for teams needing the DT position.
 

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The ends were crashing down nearly every time, and it happened no matter who was in there. Why do we think the ends always had contain on these plays? If the T blocks down the DE can scrape down and the LB needs to get out to contain. I can see the argument for both sides there, but based on the frequency DEs chased the dive I would assume this is correct and Zimmer planned on doing gap exchanges on these zone runs.
Because after watching specifically the plays Akoye broke down it wouldn't make sense to have Dlaw meet 3 other defenders inside and leave no one on the outside. There is no defense that would have the entire line be in the same spot with zero personnel to the outside on the same side the opponent is running too leaving huge swaths of open space. No way that play is designed like that. Not saying rookies wont make this mistake but veterans should know better and if they don't then they are too dumb to play IMHO.
 

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I have heard it's a good draft year for teams needing the DT position.
I don’t think you can depend on the draft for defensive tackles. You need to use free agency. Defensive tackles take time to develop. As much as the Eagles get praise for their moves Jordan Davis has been disappointing. Teams run right at him. The best thing the Cowboys can do is to try to improve in free agency like the Eagles, 49ers, Lions, ect….. Not to doubt the draft but I would look at skill players high in the draft because they are most likely to be successful. We need success immediately.
 

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Because after watching specifically the plays Akoye broke down it wouldn't make sense to have Dlaw meet 3 other defenders inside and leave no one on the outside. There is no defense that would have the entire line be in the same spot with zero personnel to the outside on the same side the opponent is running too leaving huge swaths of open space. No way that play is designed like that. Not saying rookies wont make this mistake but veterans should know better and if they don't then they are too dumb to play IMHO.
Maybe, but I would keep an open mind to the idea that this Akoye fellow isn't 100% right all the time....First 15 seconds of the video below is a decent example of what I'm talking about, and that play should look somewhat familiar in how our DEs were crashing down the last couple weeks. I think the Cowboys were using a similar concept to this, but its actually the LB that is getting sucked in to the dive play where they shouldn't be. If I am right its also shame on Zimmer for not having Overshown on the weak side of the formation as Kenricks probably isnt quick enough to execute this against Jackson. It just seems really odd to me that every single DE was crashing down like this 90% of the time.

 
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