How to fix this OL?

[lk8701]

See that at the end? That's a ? because I don't know how to fix this but it is broken because they do not seem to be able to put many good plays together on a drive.

So, is this a coaching issue or a player issue? The only guy playing up to speed is Martin and the second best OL is Looney in a replacement role. Big Smitty does not look right, Williams gets overpowered and I don't know if Collins is a G or T or either. I think he was promised the T gig for the dough but he is not the least bit impressive at RT.

Is Prescott taking too much time to read and release or taking off on a run too soon? Elliott looked like he did in that first Giants game when he was a rookie, running into the butts of his OL.

Here is the real problem. The DC's left on the schedule have seen the same thing WAS did to them and are going to replicate that and put the game on the QB, OL and receivers. They're not going to let the RB beat them.

So, is this a problem that can be resolved this season, with these players, or is this going to take changing some of them out in the off season? Most of us agree Williams needs a year of strength training to stay at G or move him out to T and let Collins walk if he doesn't want to play G. And what the hell is that about? Players play where they're told to play to best benefit the team.

My biggest concern is Big Smitty because he is really inconsistent and I think the DC's and DE's are picking up on some weaknesses on film and exploiting them. He used to be a top 3 LT but something's not right with him.

Get a QB who can slide in the pocket and gets rid of the ball quickly.

Dak: Hyper aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw. Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions. Must speed up the pace of his reads. Footwork is a mess.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/dak-prescott?id=2555260

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Well, he looked like he could coach an OL.

A.K.A. Paul Alexander .

 

[Doomsay]

.....seeing much replays from Wash game. It looks like our OL don't finish their blocks, especially on run plays. They bump their guy but dont drive them out. The DL just slip-move them to the side and get in the backfield. That's a coaching problem. But heck, what do i know..

Noticed that a bit as well, I’d imagine that it would get fatiguing blocking for a QB that holds the ball way too long on a consistent basis, but that doesn’t excuse the run blocking - unless the play calling is so obvious that they know the DL always anticipates the run.

 

[texbumthelife]

Callahan left because he was disrespected no doubt. Wish we could have keep him his play calling wasnt working for Garrett. Callahan did have his baggage.

Oh yeah, Callahan was maligned from his time in Oakland for sure. He was, however, widely regarded as one of the best OL coaches in the game back then. He's even more mythical now. Meanwhile, Linehan has been known for being a loser, almost exclusively.

 

[Hennessy_King]

It's an easy fix just switch connor Williams and lael already it's a no brainer. Lael is a guard mentally and physically. Connor has great feet and is lighter. Would be better at tackle than having to handle 320 lb dts

 

[Parcells4Life]

See that at the end? That's a ? because I don't know how to fix this but it is broken because they do not seem to be able to put many good plays together on a drive.

So, is this a coaching issue or a player issue? The only guy playing up to speed is Martin and the second best OL is Looney in a replacement role. Big Smitty does not look right, Williams gets overpowered and I don't know if Collins is a G or T or either. I think he was promised the T gig for the dough but he is not the least bit impressive at RT.

Is Prescott taking too much time to read and release or taking off on a run too soon? Elliott looked like he did in that first Giants game when he was a rookie, running into the butts of his OL.

Here is the real problem. The DC's left on the schedule have seen the same thing WAS did to them and are going to replicate that and put the game on the QB, OL and receivers. They're not going to let the RB beat them.

So, is this a problem that can be resolved this season, with these players, or is this going to take changing some of them out in the off season? Most of us agree Williams needs a year of strength training to stay at G or move him out to T and let Collins walk if he doesn't want to play G. And what the hell is that about? Players play where they're told to play to best benefit the team.

My biggest concern is Big Smitty because he is really inconsistent and I think the DC's and DE's are picking up on some weaknesses on film and exploiting them. He used to be a top 3 LT but something's not right with him.

Supposedly the technique changed. It should change back to what they were doing the previous 4 years when La’El and Tyron were at least good when healthy. They’re barely average right now

 

[CouchCoach]

Supposedly the technique changed. It should change back to what they were doing the previous 4 years when La’El and Tyron were at least good when healthy. They’re barely average right now

The OL is more if a unit than any on the team. It hasn't been the same since they let Leary walk. Big Smitty being injured and out and back in and not looking like himself and then losing Yosemite have all taken their toll and they no longer play like a unit.

 

[Idgit]

Well, he looked like he could coach an OL.

The Jerk Store called, Percy.

 

[waving monkey]

The OL is more if a unit than any on the team. It hasn't been the same since they let Leary walk. Big Smitty being injured and out and back in and not looking like himself and then losing Yosemite have all taken their toll and they no longer play like a unit.

Leary was really moe to the team then I realized and Free retiring was another blow

 

[Cowboys_22]

Move Bease to fb again to help with the blocking...

 

[blumayne38]

With the way WAS was playing along the los and clogging the lanes, how do they do that?

What WAS did on Sunday was exactly how I've seen DC's play rookie QB's not adept at reading the defense quickly.

The QB has to make a pass consistently against good or great coverage something Dak isn’t very strong at.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I don't think the oline is as bad as it seems. Or the offense as a whole. The whole offense is being run poorly.

A passing team can just pass.
But a running team can't just run. Defenses load up the box and shut you down, no matter how good the oline is.

The best thing our oline does is run block. Tyron can plow forward better than react in a backpedal. Williams can pull better than he can take on a DT nose to nose. Even Joe Looney seems to have some wheels. Who knew?

Teams load up against the run on 1st and 2nd. If we're in 3rd and long, we're entirely playing away from our strengths.

Until we successfully attack the stacked boxes on 1st and 2nd down, we're going to continue to look like crap on offense.

It's not really that complicated. You attack the keying on Zeke with more read option and runs by other players. Running Dak works. But we actually have to attack and win with our outside WRs against man coverage with no help. If 9 defenders can hang out in the box, the run game aint gonna win. You can blame the oline for not blocking, but they can't block 9 guys.

 

[buybuydandavis]

God forbid we ever tried to fool someone
We put a CB on offense and who would have ever guessed it was a jet sweep

And we played that Goodwin guy on defense too. It's hard to understand what the hell they're doing.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The QB has to make a pass consistently against good or great coverage something Dak isn’t very strong at.

Nothing gets better until Linehan, Dak, and the wideouts can beat man coverage without help on the outside. The run game isn't going to beat 8 and 9 defenders in the box.

Same problem as last year. And last I heard, we are cutting the one guy from last year who was effective in beating that coverage - Butler. Linehan still doesn't get it.

 

[buybuydandavis]

It's not so much that they know he can't pass, it's that they know when he's passing. He gets right up under center and hands the ball off to Zeke. Everybody knows it's a run because they hardly run any play action from that formation. Then on 2nd and 9 Dak is back in shotgun with 4 wide. Everyone including the entire stadium knows he's passing. It's so painfully obvious it hurts to watch this offense.

Exactly. They can stack the box with impunity to stop Zeke. We're doing nothing with play calling to make them pay for that.

 

[Captain43Crash]

It's not so much that they know he can't pass, it's that they know when he's passing. He gets right up under center and hands the ball off to Zeke. Everybody knows it's a run because they hardly run any play action from that formation. Then on 2nd and 9 Dak is back in shotgun with 4 wide. Everyone including the entire stadium knows he's passing. It's so painfully obvious it hurts to watch this offense.

Predictability kills an Offense! It is that simple. 90% of the time I can call if it’s a run or pass by our O, so can the other teams Defensive Coordinator!

 

[Captain43Crash]

Exactly. They can stack the box with impunity to stop Zeke. We're doing nothing with play calling to make them pay for that.

Bingo!! Coaching matters!! We have the most predictable Offense in football. Our HC and OC are our main problem. Until that changes we will never win Playoff games.

 

[Clove]

Not only is Smith giving every End a shot at our QB, not only is Williams constantly getting either beat directly, or pushed back into the QB, not only is Collins allowing Ends to kick is butt most of the time, but this offensive line commits penalties ALL THE TIME. It's as if they don't practice at all.

 

[Verdict]

Dak is a big part of the problem. Romo was calling it out this weekend...we didn't have to wait for a review of the all 22. He was giving it to us as it happened.

The only possible thing they could do is move Collins to RG and then put Williams or Flemming at RT. Not sure it really would improve things.

Not sure what it would do overall but would fix the guard position in the short term.

 

[Verdict]

Draft 3 more first rounders.

Good idea. I will have them get right on that for you.