Hunter to be traded to Jets

[wxcpo]

I agree, Hunter hadn't proven anything more than at best he was a 4th maybe 5th CB and at that position you need to do more than play CB. He needed to be a special teams leader and he wasn't ever going to do that. For us to get anything out of a guy who we would have probably ended up releasing should be looked at as a huge gain for us. We can now take that extra pick (which hopefully ends up being a #5) and use it to trade up in next year's draft if we see a player that we can't pass up (ex. Canty).

 

[LaTunaNostra]

You are wise Barb. Fair enough. It won't be long before we know if Pete can take advantage of his opportunity or not.

This is for you, ABQ, the Jets fan on the street. I was going to jump in but there was just too much misinformation to try to combat.

I hope we don't waste a draft pick trading for this JAG.
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302056

I hope the mooted 'late round pick' is a 7th or, at most, a 6th. Wouldn't want to give up more than that for a guy coming off an injury and from the depths of the Cowboy's depth chart.

if the 'Boys were willing to take one of the Jets gazillion Safeties - a Pagel or a Celestin for example - then I'd be all for that deal.

(Now THAT was a thought)

Here's a pic of Hunter defending a pass against Coles when the 'Boys played the 'Skins last season:
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-...5785-2004Sep28L

If he's fully healed, it's not as far-fetched as it sounds. He was a starter for the Cowboys before he got hurt, and he's a great athlete with impressive size and speed. The Cowboys signed a load of big-money CBs this offseason which annoyed Hunter and caused him to speak out and request a trade - that put him into Tuna's doghouse and led to his spiral down the depth chart. Tuna has thrown away good players for peanuts before (remember Hugh Douglas?) so Hunter could be a steal if the price is right and he is fully recovered from his injury.

we have ton of good cbs on the depth chart already, and ty law is still available.

it's good to have a veteran replacement with good skills and upside for a competitive training camp. may the best performers earn the position.

it's a good deal, knowing Parcells he only got a 6th or 7th rounder for a very talented athlete that should round out our CB position.

Hunter brings great potential, but isn't starting caliber as of yet. He can compete for the nickel duties. I doubt he is going to set the world on fire as a starter. Not to mention he will be learning a new defensive scheme. I know he was in the 4-3 last year in Dallas, it's just that Hendu likes to present a 4-3 hybrid and that will require some study on the part of Hunter.

Better to have a young fast CB who wants to play and has his best years in front of him then to have an old CB at the end of his career that had to be talked into coming to minicamp, whose heart clearly isn't in the game anymore

yeah except if that old CB now is better than that young CB will probably ever be. And judging by that cowboy fan's assesment (and he would know better than any of us), that seems to be the case. The defense just got worse, if ever so slightly....

He won the starting job going into 2004 and started the first 3 games before suffering a knee injury.

If Parcells thought enough of him to have him in the starting lineup on opening day coming off of a playoff season in 2003:

He can't be terrible.

I think this is a great move by the Jets to fill a big hole that was created by Abraham retiring. He's a taller version of David Barrett and I think Henderson can turn him into a better player than he was in Dallas. He's a physical guy but turning and running is not his specialty so a good jam at the line is pretty important for him when playing in man.

I watched a Dallas game last year where Hunter got scorched repeatedly, he might be okay for some depth or perhaps he can be coached up but he was dominated in the game I saw last year. (Can't remember who they were playing.)

He only played in 2 1/2 games last year so it's pretty ironic that you caught one of them and took notice of him enough to remember that since last year he had absolutely nothing to do with us at all.
Hmmmmmmmm ?
HA!!!!!

That's a fraudulent statement!!!

He only played 2 1/2 games last year:

Game 1 was versus the Vikings and Randy Moss. The Vikings leader receiver was Onterrio Smith with 1 catch for 63 yards!

Game 2 was versus the Cleveland Browns and no Browns WR even had 40 yards receiving!

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Owned!

Was that the opening day game we all saw? :laugh1: And someone could mention Cleveland was all about how bad Garcia was, not how good the secondary was.

Cant argue that. Alot of people dont know how good Pete Hunter is. If anyone here ever watched that Cowboys training camp thing on HBO or whatever a few years ago, the staff was talking about the corners and they all said he was by far the best cover corner on the team. I dont think that is a stretch, the guy is huge and fast as well as physical enough to play safety.

We got a steal here folks.

That's the board's Art, I reckon.

He's a guy who takes some risks so he might drive Jet fans crazy a lot of times with some big plays given up but he could also make some plays here and there. Barrett came over with the same reputation so it'll be cool to see if he worked out as well as Barrett did

This is what a Cowboy fan had to say about Pete Hunter

"Pete Hunter is pretty Terrible, but you probably traded a LOW pick for him (6th) so it isn't really a big deal."

Exactly and just because someone says they know a Dallas fan that doesn't like the kid does that mean anything? Most Dallas fans I know are morons anyway. Besides there are enough "Jets fans" that we can quote from here that will say how terrible every Jets player is also.

Not a bad deal, but if this guys is going to be starting, I can smell the flames already as he gets torched repeatedly. Why would Tuna gave up a potential 'steal' for at best a crappy pick? Lack of faith in the guys abilities? Dallas had a horrible secondary last season. Thats why they went out and traded for Buchanon from the Raiders this year.

LMAO!! Nuff said!

http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94805&page=4&pp=20

 

[WoodysGirl]

Thanks for all the quotes, Latuna. Those were pretty funny....
This one especially...:laugh2:

Exactly and just because someone says they know a Dallas fan that doesn't like the kid does that mean anything? Most Dallas fans I know are morons anyway.

and I almost fell out in my chair over this one...

Thats why they went out and traded for Buchanon from the Raiders this year.

 

[cowboytillidie]

Jennifer Floyd Engle is the classic case of a reporter who rarely has anything good to say about the players. She talks a whole lot about nothing. She gets on my nerves. All I have to do is here her whiny little voice on ESPN and I turn the station

 

[Dale]

Hunter, as a person, seemed liked one of the genuinely nicer guys on the team to me. He's the kind of guy, especially when he started out at Dallas, that was very starstruck. His quote on Hard Knocks personified him perfectly. After throwing up during a game, he said, "I was just hoping no one slipped on it" (paraphrasing). He's the kind of guy you bump in to, and he gives you a smile, a hello, and a how are you doing. Real easy to talk to, though, I'm sure like anyone, when he's being ridiculed he might become a little defensive.

I do think, possibly, his opinion of himself as a player became a little inflated, and he said some things this off-season that he probably should not have. However, it is a business -- and look where his comments got him. He was a potential 4th or 5th corner here, best case scenario; now he's in New York, vying for a starting job.

He was good enough to compete for a starting job on a squad with little talent at that position a year ago. I can understand why he felt he deserved to compete for more playing time than wilt away on the bench here.

However, from Dallas' perspective, the second he made those comments he was outta here in my book. As a fan, I want no part of a player who doesn't want to be here -- that went for Hambrick last off-season, and Hunter this. I want player willing and eager to compete here, from the first player on the depth chart to the 53rd. Perhaps that's a little idealistic, but when you have jealousy and envy over playing time in the locker room, I think it spells disaster. It wasn't like Hunter was key to our success. Better to let him go and seek his opportunity elsewhere.

The fact we possibly got a pick out of this makes it all the better.

 

[Dale]

Because "loyal" Cowboys fans would accuse them of being traitors, jerks, etc. See Mickey Spagnola pertaining to Q for evidence. Lots of writers joined the dogpile, Mickey never changed opinions. Still paying for it too.

to the forum.

It's funny. Just like with the fans, it seemed like the media was equally as split on him. There were a number of people really rooting for the guy. But there was also a large segment who literally hated the fella. Mickey's just much more blunt publicly about it.

You'd be amazed to hear some of the stuff people "really" thought about Quincy. I've never heard so much gossip and four-letter words thrown around as the day he was cut (not player opinions).

 

[Hostile]

It's funny. Just like with the fans, it seemed like the media was equally as split on him. There were a number of people really rooting for the guy. But there was also a large segment who literally hated the fella. Mickey's just much more blunt publicly about it.

You'd be amazed to hear some of the stuff people "really" thought about Quincy. I've never heard so much gossip and four-letter words thrown around as the day he was cut (not player opinions).

I'd actually be interested in hearing what was said.

People literally hated Mickey for his opinion. It was amazing.

 

[Avery]

"Thats why they went out and traded for Buchanon from the Raiders this year."

Indeed...

In related news, lobotomies are two for one down at Rockefeller Center. The Naked Cowboy is doing them with a rusty spoon.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'd actually be interested in hearing what was said.

Well I know something Engel has said, and one reason she didn't like Quincy besides the drug problem... She revealed a few months ago that she was getting interviews a couple of years ago and QC made a loud comment for all to hear that women didn't belong there (in the locker room)... Apparently he could be pretty ugly to some of the media people.

BTW, definitely not trying to start the QC merry-go-round again.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Thanks for all the quotes, Latuna. Those were pretty funny....
This one especially...:laugh2:

and I almost fell out in my chair over this one...

I just got the chance to put my two cents in, so I corrected that one, WG. LOL

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is for you, ABQ, the Jets fan on the street. I was going to jump in but there was just too much misinformation to try to combat.

From rocky beginnings........

Thank you LTN. I appriciate you taking the time to do this. Pretty funny stuff there. Actually, kinda reminds me of this board if that thread is any indication.

 

[InmanRoshi]

If this has already been posted, I apologize .... but I just can't bring myself to go through 11 threads of Pete Hunter talk.


From PFT

'BOYS HAPPY TO GIVE HUNTER THE HEAVE HO



A league source tells us that the Dallas Cowboys were happy to get rid of cornerback Pete Hunter, who was traded to the Jets for a sixth-round pick that could improve to a five based on his performance.



Apart from the fact that he's had a stick up his shoot for most of the offseason, word is that Hunter was repeatedly toasted during minicamps and involuntary voluntary workouts. There's also a concern that weightlifting in the offseason left him too muscular and, consequently, too stiff.



The 'Boys acquired Hunter in the fifth round of the 2002 draft. He signed a one-year restricted free agent tender for $665,000 after missing most of the 2004 season with a torn ACL. Per The Dallas Morning News, he became upset when the team signed Anthony Henry in March, and Hunter thereafter resisted moving to free safety.



Hunter, a starter at the outset of the 2004 season, fell even farther on the depth chart when the Cowboys added Aaron Glenn.



The Jets had a keen interest in Hunter because veteran cornerback Donnie Abraham finally has decided to retire after flip-flopping on the issue earlier in the offseason. Ray Mickens will give the first crack at replacing him in the starting lineup, and Hunter will now be in the mix.



Of course, Hunter could end up doing the depth chart free fall in New York, if the Jets are able to sign Ty Law, whom they'll now pursue more aggressively given Abraham's departure.

This makes sense to me .... Hunter goes from Virginia Union's offseason program where evidently the athletes can't find track spikes and have to run on dirt tracks for their pro workouts to the Cowboys' state of the art facilities and Bill Parcells rigorous strength training methods. As a result he fills out 10-15 lbs. of lean muscle, and he already had a big frame to begin with. That's really nobody's fault. That's his genetics.

The problem is he's a safety who has convinced himself he's still a cornerback, but its like a small college defensive end who bulks up to 300 lbs. and still insists he's a speed edge rusher. Take a cue from Peppi Zellner and Montae Reagor ... when you're a marginal player, move to the position that's going to prolong your career.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Interesting info Rosh.

Based on this

"word is that Hunter was repeatedly toasted during minicamps and involuntary voluntary workouts."

Even if we hadn't gotten Glenn, he still might not have been in the mix at CB.

 

[Mash]

Henry was also toasted during minicamps and involuntary voluntary workouts......can we get back our bonus?