Hurricane Ida

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Ida’s aftermath: No power, no flights, scant drinking water

https://apnews.com/article/hurrican...-mississippi-f6d6750d736af169ae09fa3142f92a4e

 

[jnday]

I live in South Central Mississippi and we lost power for 18 hours and we got hit with some of the worst of it, but it was nothing compared to Katrina. There was a lot of rain and high winds but the damage was minimal.

 

[jnday]

Wow, why in the world would anyone still live in New Orleans?

It was crazy to spend billions of dollars rebuilding a city that is in a hole. You can’t fight Mother Nature.

 

[jnday]

No, it absolutely was not as bad. At least for me.

I live outside of New Orleans ( basically north and east of N.O.) and rode out both Katrina 15 years ago and Ida last night. Speaking for my own personal experience, there was no comparison between the two. Last night we just had a lot of wind and rain. There are very few trees down around here… and some limbs, etc….But it is nothing like what Katrina did here. Nothing. Katrina put 7 trees on my house, made all roads impassable for days afterwards, and killed a couple of people in my neighborhood. With Ida, we didn’t even lose power (although some people in this area did).

However, we are on the East side of New Orleans And Katrina went East of N.O. Ida went West of N.O. and the core simply didn’t come as close to me as Katrina’s, so the impact should have been lessened here.

My wife’s sister lives Northwest of New Orleans (Hammond) and she said that last night she had never been so scared in her life. She said that it was much worse than what she went through with Katrina, so it is just a matter of where you were, I suppose.

Katrina, for all that New Orleans made the news after her, really didn’t get the worst of Katrina. It was Mississippi that bore the brunt of the attack. Louisiana was primarily a flood event, with all the levees breaking. They really didn’t get that much wind. Mississippi got the front-right quadrant of Katrina. The wind and especially the storm surge was much worse for MS. The storm surge was the worst part for the MS coast. It was truly catastrophic.

With Ida though, south LA got the front-right quadrant and my sister-in-law was able to experience wind like we did for Katrina.

The thing that Katrina had that Ida did not was size. Katrina was such a massive, massive storm that it brought unprecedented storm surge with it. The hurricane basically lifts up the water and brings it onshore with it with its low pressure. It isn’t just a “wind blowing the water onshore” thing. The huge size Katrina had brought so much water with it that some parts of the coast like Long Beach and Pass Christian got around 25 feet of storm surge. That is incredible.

Hurricane Camille hit in exactly the same spot as Katrina, and as bad as the winds were in that (200 mph gusts), it didn’t bring nearly as much water with it.

Anyway. I’m rambling… but Ida wasn’t Katrina despite being a cat-4.

Katrina remained a category 5 storm until it reached Jackson Mississippi. There was hundreds of miles of damage that resembled a bombed out war zone. We were without power for three weeks and some people was out for a month or more. Civilization was eroding within days because there was no fuel, food , water electricity, etc. There was a guy that stabbed and killed a lady over a bag of ice. There was people stealing everything that they could get their hands on. I know one guy that had his entire gas tank stolen from his old Cadillac. They actually took his tank off and took it with them. It educated me on how fragile our society really is. I am thankful that Ida was not that bad.

 

[AsthmaField]

Katrina remained a category 5 storm until it reached Jackson Mississippi. There was hundreds of miles of damage that resembled a bombed out war zone. We were without power for three weeks and some people was out for a month or more. Civilization was eroding within days because there was no fuel, food , water electricity, etc. There was a guy that stabbed and killed a lady over a bag of ice. There was people stealing everything that they could get their hands on. I know one guy that had his entire gas tank stolen from his old Cadillac. They actually took his tank off and took it with them. It educated me on how fragile our society really is. I am thankful that Ida was not that bad.

I’m pretty sure that Katrina hit as a Category 3 storm. I’d have to look it up to be sure but I think it weakened to a 3 just before landfall.

everything else you said is 100% accurate. It certainly started eroding society down here.

Having said that, I bet in extreme south LA, it is pretty bad and is probably similar to S MS in Katrina.

where are you located at? What area?

 

[triplets_93]

It was crazy to spend billions of dollars rebuilding a city that is in a hole. You can’t fight Mother Nature.

I agree. It would be better and more cost effective with Federal taxpayer Dollars, with the climate changing, and stronger and more storms coming, to declare things along the Gulf Coast as uninhabitable, and relocate them. But I don't think our Govt. is that smart.

 

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https://www.nola.com/news/hurricane/article_d5d5f57c-0a7b-11ec-a7b4-3f2c99af0f4c.html

Much about the plan to restore power was unclear Tuesday afternoon, but it was widely expected that even if power was restored to hospitals, the Sewerage & Water Board and other critical needs in the city soon, it would take far longer for average residents and businesses to be able to turn on their lights and their air conditioning.

 

[jnday]

I’m pretty sure that Katrina hit as a Category 3 storm. I’d have to look it up to be sure but I think it weakened to a 3 just before landfall.

everything else you said is 100% accurate. It certainly started eroding society down here.

Having said that, I bet in extreme south LA, it is pretty bad and is probably similar to S MS in Katrina.

where are you located at? What area?

Katrina was the third strongest hurricane that has made landfall. It was a 5 and it remained a five when it came over my house which is a hour south of Jackson on I-55. It remained a cat 5 until it reached Jackson. I just double checked and several sources that confirms it. It is well documented. South La does look bad , but at least the towns are still there. Katrina totally wiped towns like Waveland MS off of the map. There was not a building left standing. There was shrimp boats that was washed two miles inland by the massive storm surge. None of these things are good , but I don’t think that we will ever see another cat 5 hurricane with the size of Katrina. I have been through several hurricanes, but nothing matched it or even came close.

 

[AsthmaField]

Katrina was the third strongest hurricane that has made landfall. It was a 5 and it remained a five when it came over my house which is a hour south of Jackson on I-55. It remained a cat 5 until it reached Jackson. I just double checked and several sources that confirms it. It is well documented. South La does look bad , but at least the towns are still there. Katrina totally wiped towns like Waveland MS off of the map. There was not a building left standing. There was shrimp boats that was washed two miles inland by the massive storm surge. None of these things are good , but I don’t think that we will ever see another cat 5 hurricane with the size of Katrina. I have been through several hurricanes, but nothing matched it or even came close.

All the Damage and how much it tore up south MS (and LA) is exactly as you say. I lived it too and it was God awful.

However man, there have only been 4 hurricanes to ever make landfall as a category 5. Those were:

• The Labor Day hurricane of 1935 (which also had the lowest barometric pressure at landfall)
• Hurricane Camille in 1969, which made landfall exactly where Katrina did in Pass Christian
• Hurricane Andrew in 1992 that wrecked Miami
• And Hurricane Michael in 2018 that hit Apalachicola Florida.

Other than that, there have been no land falling Cat 5’s hit the US. Here is a link that talks about those four Cat 5’s.

https://www.wtsp.com/article/weathe...ll-us/67-6975778f-57b9-4b84-a0f7-69b58804e4b1

Katrina rapidly intensified to a Cat 5 and became a physically huge storm. However, just before she made landfall, she weakened to a Cat 3. So Katrina made two landfalls: one as a Cat 1 in Florida and then the second as a Cat 3 in MS.

This from the national Weather Service:

Katrina then weakened to a Category 4 hurricane as it moved across the north central Gulf and weakened further to a strong Category 3 hurricane shortly before making landfall in southeast Louisiana.

link for National Weather Service page on Katrina (5th paragraph down):

https://www.weather.gov/mob/katrina

Here is the write up from Wikipedia:

Katrina originated on August 23, 2005, as a tropical depression from the merger of a tropical wave and the remnants of Tropical Depression Ten. Early the following day, the depression intensified into a tropical storm as it headed generally westward toward Florida, strengthening into a hurricane two hours before making landfall at Hallandale Beach on August 25. After briefly weakening to tropical storm strength over southern Florida, Katrina emerged into the Gulf of Mexico on August 26 and began to rapidly intensify. The storm strengthened into a Category 5 hurricane over the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico[2] before weakening to Category 3 strength at its second landfall on August 29 over southeast Louisiana and Mississippi.

Link (in second paragraph down):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina


I’m as much a weather geek as I am a football nerd. I can’t imagine what Katrina would have done as a Cat 5.

The wind here where I’m at was only about 95mph sustained, which puts it a good 60 mph lower than the Cat 5 threshold.

Even Camille, which was considerably stronger than Katrina(200 mph gusts) wasn’t still a Cat 5 as deep inland as Jackson MS. They weaken quickly over land. (Although Camille killed about 150 people in Virginia).

 

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Damaging Tornadoes, Flash Flooding from Ida's Remnants Rip Through Philly, New Jersey, New York

https://weather.com/news/news/2021-09-01-flooding-tornadoes-northwest-mid-atlantic-ida

 

[Montanalo]

I’m pretty sure that Katrina hit as a Category 3 storm. I’d have to look it up to be sure but I think it weakened to a 3 just before landfall.

everything else you said is 100% accurate. It certainly started eroding society down here.

Having said that, I bet in extreme south LA, it is pretty bad and is probably similar to S MS in Katrina.

where are you located at? What area?

We have family just south of Houma. The photos they shared looked similar to the aftermath of a tornado only the devastation was miles wide; everything flattened.

 

[AsthmaField]

We have family just south of Houma. The photos they shared looked similar to the aftermath of a tornado only the devastation was miles wide; everything flattened.

Yeah it is bad close to the coast. If you live near the shore, the storm surge will pretty much level everything. You can’t really survive that unless you just get lucky.

 

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Hurricane Ida's Remnants Blamed for at Least 23 Deaths in NYC, New Jersey

 

[Runwildboys]

Hurricane Ida's Remnants Blamed for at Least 23 Deaths in NYC, New Jersey

We had 3 drivers going to Long Island and NYC this morning, and all had to turn around and come back because they couldn't get there. (We're up near Hartford, CT.)

 

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New Orleans and surrounding areas lost power when Hurricane Ida hit on Aug. 29 and may not get all of it back for weeks. Entergy has been on thin ice for a while, with growing concerns that they are not properly maintaining their systems to withstand natural disasters.

 

[Hoofbite]

I hate our desert heat and sometimes biting cold, but I’m damn glad we don’t really get thunderstorms at all. No tornados and no hurricanes. No flooding. Just dry heat and nipple-twisting cold in the winter.

 

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Alligator suspected in post-Ida attack captured

https://apnews.com/article/hurrican...s-hurricanes-e424919d8d63feabdba5568a63425b91