Hutchinson can't play in the NFL

wick said:
When was the last time this stiff went a game without a fumble? The man is a turnover machine, and we really shouldn't waste any more time on him. I don't see any way Bill Parcells keeps him on the roster this year.
He should just look at one receiver and then dump the ball to the running back. Nevermind, we already have Quincy doing that.
 
Both have holes in thier games,but to me a Qb should be able to manage the offense and make the throws,a passer first and foremost, protection is the scheme and blockers responsibility.A Qb simply buying time by scrambling but not gaining yards or by turning the ball over would be better off to just throw it away or take the sack.
 
Jimz31 said:
LOL. This is the same guy that says that he could tell that Hutch could play in the NFL after just watching the Jacksonville game....yet ignores the games that Quincy had as a rookie that were pretty dang good. If you want me to name just one game since you mentioned just one, I'll give you the SF game.

"Hey Pot.....it's me Kettle" LOL.

Once again, there is a difference between being able to PLAY in the NFL and being AN ABOVE AVERAGE STARTING QB in the NFL.

Let me see, if we bring up Carter in a thread on Hutchinson you come out screaming, "This thread is about Hutch, why are you bringing up Quincy?"

Yet in response to several threads ranging from Hutch sucks to Hutch can never play in the NFL, I simply said, "Hutchinson proved he could PLAY in the NFL in 2002 against JAX." You now WANT me to bring up Quincy.

Explain to me, just what in the hell ANY of that has to do with Quincy?
 
MikeD17 said:
where's all the hutch supporters now?? haha

the guy is awful , ive been saying since day one he was the next ryan leaf.

Qc is making alot of people look very dumb, since alot of people said hutch would be the starter before parcells came and qc would be playing in the areana league


Mike, Both QC and Hutch camps will be nowher to be found come 2005.

Your leaf/hutch comparrison would hold much more water if you didn't think QC is a superbowl/Probowl/HOF QB.

Settle down bro. We all know you were right about Hutch, but it stops there, cause your boy Q will have you biting your tongue before too long.
 
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MikeD17 evilly lisped:


MikeD17 said:
where's all the hutch supporters now?? haha


Uhhh my guess is supporting the whole Dallas Cowboy team. Somethign you obviously dont do.


MikeD17 said:
the guy is awful , ive been saying since day one he was the next ryan leaf.

Whatever. All your doin is just settin things up for people to get mad and start bashin Quincy for every mistake he makes this season and people like you will be to blame.

MikeD17 said:
Qc is making alot of people look very dumb, since alot of people said hutch would be the starter before parcells came and qc would be playing in the areana league


A QB who threw 22 interceptions and laughable play at QB and is a total joke at making decisions is not going to make anyone look stupid. The Cowboys went 10-6 last year IN SPITE of QuINTcy Carter not because of him.

It really sux we had to trade Joey Galloway cuz he wasnt the problem. The real problem was the QB who was throwin him the ball last year. Remember how AB got all mad an showed up QuINTcy during a game cuz of how awful he was thrown.

QuINTcy is makin everyone look so dumb that Bill Parcells went out and get Drew Henson for the future. BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
Batman said:
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MikeD17 evilly lisped:
Uhhh my guess is supporting the whole Dallas Cowboy team. Somethign you obviously dont do.

Whatever. All your doin is just settin things up for people to get mad and start bashin Quincy for every mistake he makes this season and people like you will be to blame.

A QB who threw 22 interceptions and laughable play at QB and is a total joke at making decisions is not going to make anyone look stupid. The Cowboys went 10-6 last year IN SPITE of QuINTcy Carter not because of him.

It really sux we had to trade Joey Galloway cuz he wasnt the problem. The real problem was the QB who was throwin him the ball last year. Remember how AB got all mad an showed up QuINTcy during a game cuz of how awful he was thrown.

QuINTcy is makin everyone look so dumb that Bill Parcells went out and get Drew Henson for the future. BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

If you are supporting the entire Cowboys' team why are you making fun of Carter's lisp, laughing at his play and threatening to point out every one of Carter's mistakes (as if that would be anything new for Cowboys' forums).
 
What's more astounding than Hutchinson's horrible play is how in the heck did he lead the Cowboys to a victory over the Commanders two years ago?

The Skins must have really sucked.
 
CanadianCowboysFan said:
Assuming for the moment, a QB who took his team to the playoffs is unable to play at the NFL level, at least he is failing at the NFL level and not in AAA in Europe.

The whole "QC took his team to the playoffs" thing is getting old. If you want to use that logic, then you also have to say "QC can't get past the first round of the playoffs" and "QC lost every playoff game he has ever led his team to". I assume that every person on this board who says that QC led this team to the playoffs would want QC benched for Trent Dilfer who led his team to a Super Bowl win.

Am I wrong? If anyone on this board says QC led Dallas to the playoffs and thinks he is a better QB than Trent Dilfer please tell me why. Would anyone here, who thinks QC led Dallas to the playoffs, please tell me why you wouldn't trade him for a player who led his team to a Super Bowl... (even though Dilfer is a backup now).



And for the record, I think QC is better than Hutch, but worse than the vast majority of NFL starters.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
Great--outside of Romo and Henson, which are both "undecided" at this point our roster is full of ****ty quarterbacks.
Why are you undecided on Romo? I mean he wasnt drafted for a reason, do you honestly think he could actually turn out to be a good QB? Based on what, if you do think so.
 
jimmy40 said:
He should just look at one receiver and then dump the ball to the running back. Nevermind, we already have Quincy doing that.
And yet Quincy still averaged 11.3 yards per completion. Going into today's game Hutch was averaging a very poor 10.8 yards per completion in NFLE, second lowest of the starting QB's over there. That's a pretty good indication that someone is dumping the ball off even more than Quincy did, but don't let the facts interrupt you.

Didn't see Hutch today, but I don't understand how knocking Quincy makes someone feel better about what was apparently a poor performance by Chad.
 
Rude said:
Why are you undecided on Romo? I mean he wasnt drafted for a reason, do you honestly think he could actually turn out to be a good QB? Based on what, if you do think so.
Brady was taken in the 6th round if I'm not mistaken - he was one round away from being undrafted too. Guys fail to get drafted for various reasons, in this case Romo didn't play division 1 football. I think it's fair to say we are undecided about him, since nobody has really seen the guy do ANYTHING good or bad. The odds say he probably won't be a good NFL QB, just because the vast majority of guys aren't, but we don't really have enough information at this point to make a call one way or the other. The fact that Parcells signed him means he's probably a better QB prospect than me or you, for instance, but other than that we just don't know.
 
Batman said:
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MikeD17 evilly lisped:





Uhhh my guess is supporting the whole Dallas Cowboy team. Somethign you obviously dont do.




Whatever. All your doin is just settin things up for people to get mad and start bashin Quincy for every mistake he makes this season and people like you will be to blame.




A QB who threw 22 interceptions and laughable play at QB and is a total joke at making decisions is not going to make anyone look stupid. The Cowboys went 10-6 last year IN SPITE of QuINTcy Carter not because of him.

It really sux we had to trade Joey Galloway cuz he wasnt the problem. The real problem was the QB who was throwin him the ball last year. Remember how AB got all mad an showed up QuINTcy during a game cuz of how awful he was thrown.

QuINTcy is makin everyone look so dumb that Bill Parcells went out and get Drew Henson for the future. BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Batman you are doing the exact same thing to Carter he is doing to Hutchinson.
If you don't think Carter is our future fine, say so, but making it personal is out of line.
 
wick said:
When was the last time this stiff went a game without a fumble? The man is a turnover machine, and we really shouldn't waste any more time on him. I don't see any way Bill Parcells keeps him on the roster this year.

while the fumbles are a problem, I really dont see a big difference between a guy who fumbles once a week and a guy who throws one or two picks a week (or more)

why are Hutchinson's fumbles such an issue but Carter ints never are?

never mind, I know the answer

David
 
Rude said:
Why are you undecided on Romo? I mean he wasnt drafted for a reason, do you honestly think he could actually turn out to be a good QB? Based on what, if you do think so.

Let's see him play a little in the pre-season then we can judge a little better if the guy is a waste or not...
 
MikeD17 said:
where's all the hutch supporters now?? haha


the guy is awful , ive been saying since day one he was the next ryan leaf.

Qc is making alot of people look very dumb, since alot of people said hutch would be the starter before parcells came and qc would be playing in the areana league

Why is Carter making people look dumb because Hutch had a bad outing? Carter looks bad himself sorry you may want what Carter brings to the table, myself I expect a QB who can actually throw decent passes and lead the team Carter does neither.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
I think it was more like the defense took him to the playoffs than the other way around...
Is that the same defense that got pummeled by Maimi on Turkey Day...
and gave up huge plays in the playoffs against the Panthers?

Actually - if it wasn't for Quincy's contributions...
we would have started out 0-2....
after the defense blew what was a big lead against the NY Giants on that Monday night. The season could have gone in a whole other direction.

Cease with the nonsense man.
Quincy was as instrumental in our 10 wins as the defense was.
 
cowheel said:
Is that the same defense that got pummeled by Maimi on Turkey Day...
and gave up huge plays in the playoffs against the Panthers?

Actually - if it wasn't for Quincy's contributions...
we would have started out 0-2....
after the defense blew what was a big lead against the NY Giants on that Monday night. The season could have gone in a whole other direction.

Cease with the nonsense man.
Quincy was as instrumental in our 10 wins as the defense was.

And if it was not for the defense this team would not have won 10 games period. You are right they played bad aginst the giants but did have an int for a TD in the giants game. However there were more outing that we had where the offense did not do jack all day long and it took the defense shutting the other teams down to get the win.
 
Doomsday101 said:
And if it was not for the defense this team would not have won 10 games period. You are right they played bad aginst the giants but did have an int for a TD in the giants game. However there were more outing that we had where the offense did not do jack all day long and it took the defense shutting the other teams down to get the win.

2002 with same defense

QC 3-4
Chad 2-7

Parcells said Quincy was the better QB and best chance to win. Give the kid a break - he helped the team win 10 games. He did that with Tham, Galloway and no line.

Parcells loaded up offensive draft to upgrade that glaring weakness.
 
Nors said:
2002 with same defense

QC 3-4
Chad 2-7

Parcells said Quincy was the better QB and best chance to win. Give the kid a break - he helped the team win 10 games. He did that with Tham, Galloway and no line.

Parcells loaded up offensive draft to upgrade that glaring weakness.

Carter may have proved himself as a quality QB to you he has not proved that to me and until he does I will have major doubts about his game. Look just because he plays for the Cowboys does not mean I will automatically drool all over him like he is some savior to this team. He has been with us now for 3 season and not 1 season has he thrown for more TD's than Int, not one season has his completion rate been close to 60%. I gave Carter the benefit of the doubt from his rookie year up to last season, I will no longer give him the benefit of the doubt he will earn the respect by going out and playing quality football
 
JDSmith said:
And yet Quincy still averaged 11.3 yards per completion. Going into today's game Hutch was averaging a very poor 10.8 yards per completion in NFLE, second lowest of the starting QB's over there. That's a pretty good indication that someone is dumping the ball off even more than Quincy did, but don't let the facts interrupt you.

Hutchinson almost never dumps off the ball in NFLE. One of his "faults" is that he always waits for something to open up downfield. Sometimes, that allows him to complete a pass to a receiver for a first down. Other times, it causes him to get sacked. Yesterday, he completed 10 passes to receivers, one to a tight end and one to a running back. I don't have his personal breakdown for the season, but Rhein's top receivers have 40, 40 and 21 catches, the tight ends have 15 and 13, and the running backs have 13, 3 and 2.

The biggest reason Hutchinson has a low average per completion is that his receivers have a hard time getting open downfield. His 10 completions to receivers yesterday gained only 90 yards. They tried five deep passes, and the receivers were open on none of them. Willie Quinnie, one of his receivers with 40 catches, averages a mere 9.1 yards per catch and doesn't have a single catch longer than 22 yards. If his receivers can't get separation downfield, all Hutchinson ends up completing are quick passes and 12-yard hitches. There aren't many 30-, 40- and 50-yard completions to build up his average.
 

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