Hutchinson can't play in the NFL

[Nors]

They are bigger and faster.


Chad is not processing fast enough and is a sack waiting to become a fumble.

 

[Doomsday101]

I would like to think that the Dallas offensive line is a lot better than what Chad is standing behind in Rhine. Most of the time it looked like a prison jail break that Chad was facing yesterday and his offensive tackle on his blind side never even slowed his man down though out the day. Having said that Chad still has to do much better protecting the ball. I still think Chad will be in camp due to the roster exemption he will have due to playing in NFL Europe

 

[Rude]

I would like to think that the Dallas offensive line is a lot better than what Chad is standing behind in Rhine. Most of the time it looked like a prison jail break that Chad was facing yesterday and his offensive tackle on his blind side never even slowed his man down though out the day. Having said that Chad still has to do much better protecting the ball. I still think Chad will be in camp due to the roster exemption he will have due to playing in NFL Europe

Yes the cowboys line is better but so are the defenses in the NFL, so it evens out. And I saw most of the game, he had time he just holds on to the ball for to long thus getting sacked or fumbling.

 

[AdamJT13]

I would like to think that the Dallas offensive line is a lot better than what Chad is standing behind in Rhine. Most of the time it looked like a prison jail break that Chad was facing yesterday and his offensive tackle on his blind side never even slowed his man down though out the day.

That would be Pita Elisara, allocated by the Commanders. Let's hope he makes their roster, and that whoever is in front of him gets hurt.

On one play yesterday, the right defensive end ran through a double-team by Elisara and the left guard, ran past a running back trying to pick him up, then nailed Hutchinson in the back as Chad was stepping up to avoid a rusher from the other side. If Hutch threw the ball away to avoid a sack every time he was under pressure, he'd have thrown it away 15 of the 37 times he dropped back.

 

[Doomsday101]

That would be Pita Elisara, allocated by the Commanders. Let's hope he makes their roster, and that whoever is in front of him gets hurt.

On one play yesterday, the right defensive end ran through a double-team by Elisara and the left guard, ran past a running back trying to pick him up, then nailed Hutchinson in the back as Chad was stepping up to avoid a rusher from the other side. If Hutch threw the ball away to avoid a sack every time he was under pressure, he'd have thrown it away 15 of the 37 times he dropped back.

I agree. If not mistake Elisara is a German national so his football experiance is quite limited. Glad the skins have him. LOL....... While I do agree with what you have said it is still Chads responsibility to hold on to the ball, I relize some of the sacks were unavoidable but none the less the QB must protect the ball.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes the cowboys line is better but so are the defenses in the NFL, so it evens out. And I saw most of the game, he had time he just holds on to the ball for to long thus getting sacked or fumbling.

I don't think it is as simpe as saying it evens out, yes defenses are better but a good O-line will still give a QB 3 sec or more in the pocket and Chad was not getting that though out the day.

 

[LeonDixson]

Is that the same defense that got pummeled by Maimi on Turkey Day...
and gave up huge plays in the playoffs against the Panthers?

Actually - if it wasn't for Quincy's contributions...
we would have started out 0-2....
after the defense blew what was a big lead against the NY Giants on that Monday night. The season could have gone in a whole other direction.

Cease with the nonsense man.
Quincy was as instrumental in our 10 wins as the defense was.

I don't mean to bash QC, but I can't believe you are disputing that the defense led us to the playoffs. You used a bad example with the Giants game. Yes, QC made a huge pass to get us into position for the tying field goal, but it was only because he couldn't put the freaking ball in the endzone that we needed to be bailed out with the last minute heroics.

Remember our kicker kicked 7 field goals, tying an NFL record, in that game. All the offense, including Q, had to do to ice that game early on was put the ball in the end zone on two of those drives. The defense was on the field a long time in that game because the offense couldn't sustain drives. Cundiff was the hero of that game, not QC.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't mean to bash QC, but I can't believe you are disputing that the defense led us to the playoffs. You used a bad example with the Giants game. Yes, QC made a huge pass to get us into position for the tying field goal, but it was only because he couldn't put the freaking ball in the endzone that we needed to be bailed out with the last minute heroics.

Remember our kicker kicked 7 field goals, tying an NFL record, in that game. All the offense, including Q, had to do to ice that game early on was put the ball in the end zone on two of those drives. The defense was on the field a long time in that game because the offense couldn't sustain drives. Cundiff was the hero of that game, not QC.

Not to mention 1 of Carters pass in the giants game was picked off and returned for a TD and he had 2 fumbles in the game as well. Dallas D was directly accontable for 1 TD and as you said Cundiff had 7 FG, that right there is 27 points out of the 35 we scored.

 

[cowheel]

And if it was not for the defense this team would not have won 10 games period. You are right they played bad aginst the giants but did have an int for a TD in the giants game. However there were more outing that we had where the offense did not do jack all day long and it took the defense shutting the other teams down to get the win.

I never said the defense was bad.
We had a good defense - not anywheres near "great".

I'm just saying this defense wasn't near good enough to overcome as horrible a quaterback play as ya'll make it seem to be last year. To say we won 10 games solely because of our defense insane.

The defense let us down quite a few times last year - most notably in the playoffs against the Panthers.

And the running attack was putrid.

So to say the QB of that team had no part in winning 10 games is utterly ridiculous.
In his 3rd year Q.C. played as well as most QBs with comparable experience.

It's actually kind of humorous the way you guys bash Quincy.

I mean - seeing how we've got the Tuna as coach....
a guy thats notoriously known for not waiting around on guys that he doesn't think can get it done.

I mean - we've had the opportunity to draft quite a few QBs...
Leftwich, etc..
We've had the opportunity to sign numerous free agents...
Plummer, Griese, Collins, Delhomme, Warner, etc,etc....

If Bill felt the way you guys did about Quincy - Q would have been gone.

And I'll take Bill's opinion over ya'lls ANYDAY.

I agree that this is Quincy's put up or shut up year.
But hell - if this past season--- he had only cut down on the INTS...
he would have had a helluva year for a guy in the first year of a new system with Troy Hambrick as his lead runner!

3000+yds and 17TDs??? You kiddin me?

Whats funny - I watched that NFL Network replay of the Dallas/Washington overtime opener...
Aikman threw 3 HORRIBLE iNTs that would have lost the game for us if Washington wasn't so incompetent.

I was thinking to myself....
now if this is QC... he'd have been booed out of Dallas.....

 

[Doomsday101]

I never said the defense was bad.
We had a good defense - not anywheres near "great".

I'm just saying this defense wasn't near good enough to overcome as horrible a quaterback play as ya'll make it seem to be last year. To say we won 10 games solely because of our defense insane.

The defense let us down quite a few times last year - most notably in the playoffs against the Panthers.

And the running attack was putrid.

So to say the QB of that team had no part in winning 10 games is utterly ridiculous.
In his 3rd year Q.C. played as well as most QBs with comparable experience.

It's actually kind of humorous the way you guys bash Quincy.

I mean - seeing how we've got the Tuna as coach....
a guy thats notoriously known for not waiting around on guys that he doesn't think can get it done.

I mean - we've had the opportunity to draft quite a few QBs...
Leftwich, etc..
We've had the opportunity to sign numerous free agents...
Plummer, Griese, Collins, Delhomme, Warner, etc,etc....

If Bill felt the way you guys did about Quincy - Q would have been gone.

And I'll take Bill's opinion over ya'lls ANYDAY.

I agree that this is Quincy's put up or shut up year.
But hell - if this past season--- he had only cut down on the INTS...
he would have had a helluva year for a guy in the first year of a new system with Troy Hambrick as his lead runner!

3000+yds and 17TDs??? You kiddin me?

Whats funny - I watched that NFL Network replay of the Dallas/Washington overtime opener...
Aikman threw 3 HORRIBLE iNTs that would have lost the game for us if Washington wasn't so incompetent.

I was thinking to myself....
now if this is QC... he'd have been booed out of Dallas.....

And to say Carter is the reason we won 10 games is simply not true. By your standards then Hambrick had as much to do with the 10 wins. Carter had a handful of decent games but even in many of our wins his number plain and simple were not good. How can you credit a player for the win when he did not play well? I never have accused Carter of losing games on the other hand he did not do a lot to help us win. As for you trusting in Bill great because when Henson is inserted into the lineup you will know why.

 

[AdamJT13]

While I do agree with what you have said it is still Chads responsibility to hold on to the ball, I relize some of the sacks were unavoidable but none the less the QB must protect the ball.

If NFLE had instant replay, one of his two fumbles almost certainly would have been changed to an incomplete pass. His arm was cocked to throw when the pass rusher hit his shoulder/bicep. He threw the ball as he was going down. Why it was ruled a fumble, I don't know. But once the call was made, it couldn't be fixed. On his other fumble, he wasn't even hit. A defensive lineman just poked the ball out as Hutchinson was stepping up in the pocket. It's the second week in a row that has happened. He has been much better at holding onto the ball when he gets hit, but he needs to stop that "pat pat" that exposes the ball before he throws it.

 

[George]

I agree. If not mistake Elisara is a German national so his football experiance is quite limited. Glad the skins have him. LOL....... While I do agree with what you have said it is still Chads responsibility to hold on to the ball, I relize some of the sacks were unavoidable but none the less the QB must protect the ball.

I wonder if Chad ended up with a concussion from that game. It became obvious to me that Chad was not functioning normal after the first sack.

 

[Doomsday101]

If NFLE had instant replay, one of his two fumbles almost certainly would have been changed to an incomplete pass. His arm was cocked to throw when the pass rusher hit his shoulder/bicep. He threw the ball as he was going down. Why it was ruled a fumble, I don't know. But once the call was made, it couldn't be fixed. On his other fumble, he wasn't even hit. A defensive lineman just poked the ball out as Hutchinson was stepping up in the pocket. It's the second week in a row that has happened. He has been much better at holding onto the ball when he gets hit, but he needs to stop that "pat pat" that exposes the ball before he throws it.

You may be right that the play in question would have been overturned but after seeing replay and how it works I would say it would have been 50/50 on the ruling. When given time I like what I see with Chad but he has to do better protecting the ball, if he does not do that then he is little help for the Cowboys.

 

[Doomsday101]

I wonder if Chad ended up with a concussion from that game. It became obvious to me that Chad was not functioning normal after the first sack.

Not sure but I do know he was having some problems with his throwing arm after one of the hits he took

 

[Hollywood Henderson]

Wow after watching Hutch play yesterday, he has got to be the toughest QB in the NFL since Troy!

Getting hit hard every time he took a snap and still making some good throws! Amazing!

Just think what he could do with time with his arm & accuracy!

He is a much better passer then last years starter!

 

[dbair1967]

Is that the same defense that got pummeled by Maimi on Turkey Day...
and gave up huge plays in the playoffs against the Panthers?

Actually - if it wasn't for Quincy's contributions...
we would have started out 0-2....
after the defense blew what was a big lead against the NY Giants on that Monday night. The season could have gone in a whole other direction.

Cease with the nonsense man.
Quincy was as instrumental in our 10 wins as the defense was.

yeah ok...

never mind the fact that awful efforts vs Tampa Bay, New England and New Orleans basically gave us no chance whatsoever, the defense, other than one or two games had us in position to win every week...the offense, led by QC and his turnovers struggled to even score two tds a week...(I think we had 28 offensive tds last yr, pathetic)

please, enough of this QC is the reason we made the playoffs hodge-podge...he gets some credit, but almost any QB could have duplicated his mediocrity and got us to 10-6 and into the playoffs

David

 

[Falcon]

This does not have to become a QC vs CHutch discussion. Before last year I felt Chutch would be the better QB. In the end, I do not care except that they win. Right now QC looks good at time and bad at times. CHutch looks terrible most of the time. He really looked bad yesterday, so while I am not convinced of QC for the long term, I will take him for now. If QC improves on last year, I will be getting on the QC bandwagon.

 

[Charles]

Neither could Delhomme, Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon and Doug Flutie. At one point in their career many fans, scouts, football personnel and mediots thought the above QBS couldn't make it in the NFL.

Chad just needs a coaching staff to believe in his abilities. He needs to be put in a system that enhances his talent and he needs time and experience in the system with a good and consistent supporting cast. I think we'll all have better understanding of how good Chad can be in 2 years if he has the above FACTORS (aka excuses).

 

[cowheel]

yeah ok...

never mind the fact that awful efforts vs Tampa Bay, New England and New Orleans basically gave us no chance whatsoever, the defense, other than one or two games had us in position to win every week...the offense, led by QC and his turnovers struggled to even score two tds a week...(I think we had 28 offensive tds last yr, pathetic)

please, enough of this QC is the reason we made the playoffs hodge-podge...he gets some credit, but almost any QB could have duplicated his mediocrity and got us to 10-6 and into the playoffs

David

If you're expecting to get a QB that has no bad outings by his 3rd year in the league.... dream on.
Plus those were pretty good defenses and we averaged what... 1.4 yards a rush in those games???

Please.

The guy started 30 games with a horrible surrounding cast - and you guys think he's supposed to be flawless.

I don't understand.

And you look at guys like Carr and Harrington and they are continuously gioven the benefit of the doubt despite having even worse stats than Quincy Carters.

I just wanna know where it was that I wrote Quincy Carter was the reason we went 10-6.
I never said that - what are you talking about?

I said he contributed big time.

The guy threw 500 passes!!!! 500!!!!
There are less than a handful of QBs in the league that I'd want to throw the ball that many times.
But we had to throw that many times out of pure neccessity because we couldn't move the chains running the ball.

Troy Aikman struggled mightily for 2 years --- And that was with an emerging great offensive line and running back in the same system.
He had the luxury of handing the ball off.
Even on 3rd and 5 - teams always knew there was the possibility we'd run the ball.

In his entire career - how many times did Aikman throw more than 500 passes?
Like once?

But with Troy Hambrick...
we had to throw the ball on 3rd and 2.
Teams knew that.

Whatever man.

Bash on.

I guess we better go ahead and put Henson in there.
And when his 30 games are up - he better be playing at a high level or else.

 

[dbair1967]

If you're expecting to get a QB that has no bad outings by his 3rd year in the league.... dream on.

The guy started 30 games with a horrible surrounding cast - and you guys think he's supposed to be flawless.

I don't understand.

And you look at guys like Carr and Harrington and they are continuously gioven the benefit of the doubt despite having even worse stats than Quincy Carters.

I just wanna know where it was that I wrote Quincy Carter was the reason we went 10-6.
I never said that - what are you talking about?

I said he contributed big time.

The guy threw 500 passes!!!! 500!!!!
There are less than a handful of QBs in the league that I';d want to throw the ball that many times.

But we had to throw that many times out of pure neccessity because we couldn't move the chains throwing the ball.

Troy Aikman struggled mightily for 2 years --- And that was with an emerging great offensive line and running back in the same system.
He had the luxury of handing the ball off.
Even on 3rd and 5 - teams always knew there was the possibility we'd run the ball.

In his entire career - how many times did Aikman throw more than 500 passes?
Like once?

But with Troy Hambrick...
we had to throw the ball on 3rd and 2.
Teams knew that.

Whatever man.

Bash on.

I guess we better go ahead and put Henson in there.
And when his 30 games are up - he better be playing at a high level or else.

your post is badly flawed either through being a blind homer for QC or just poor memory (or perhaps both)...not worth an extensive response

David