Hypothetical Darren McFadden thread

Aside from his extensive injury history, he would only be productive in certain schemes. His most productive times with the Raiders is when they ran man/power blocking schemes, he struggled within their zone blocking offenses. It makes me wonder about his vision as a runner since in zone blocking, it's ,more about the RB being able to find those creases and cutback lanes. Way too many red flags and questions on him to waste money and a roster spot on.
 
Future said:
Adrian Peterson plays for the Vikings.
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Adrian Peterson is arguably the greatest RB in history. He also has played behind some very good offensive lines.

None of these things are true for DMac.
 
Toruk_Makto said:
Adrian Peterson is arguably the greatest RB in history. He also has played behind some very good offensive lines.

None of these things are true for DMac.
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AP is not the greatest RB of all-time. Not a knock on him, but when you've got guys like Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, etc., it's a tall order for anyone.

If AP could break the all-time rushing record and win a SB or two, then that argument can be made. If he can't, it's not an argument at all.
 
Avery said:
AP is not the greatest RB of all-time. Not a knock on him, but when you've got guys like Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, etc., it's a tall order for anyone.

If AP could break the all-time rushing record and win a SB or two, then that argument can be made. If he can't, it's not an argument at all.
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As a Cowboys fan you should know better than to use team success to gauge singular talents.
 
While All-Day would have to come at a reasonable salary and free of compensation, Romo along with Peterson have carried Teams for a Decade, together they could carry a Lombardi.
 
Avery said:
AP is not the greatest RB of all-time. Not a knock on him, but when you've got guys like Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, etc., it's a tall order for anyone.

If AP could break the all-time rushing record and win a SB or two, then that argument can be made. If he can't, it's not an argument at all.
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Emmitt has the all-time rushing record and 3 SB's under his belt but most don't consider him the greatest RB of all-time. They credit his OL for his rushing totals. He has 2 backs ahead of him Jim Brown and Barry Sanders who never won a championship. AP is the greatest back of this era. To rush for over 2000 yards in a pass happy league is a huge accomplishment. He carried the Vikings all the way to the playoffs last season despite a bad QB situation. He has a great combination of speed and power he may not be the greatest RB of all-time but he ranks high on the list. Put him on a team like the 90's Cowboys with their OL and he would have set rushing records that would never be broken.
 
Toruk_Makto said:
As a Cowboys fan you should know better than to use team success to gauge singular talents.
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QB's and RB's are gauged differently. A QB is the captain of the ship they get most of the credit and blame for their teams success or lack there of. They're the ones who end up on the bench if their team isn't winning and they're the ones who get head coaches fired.
 
KJJ said:
QB's and RB's are gauged differently. A QB is the captain of the ship they get most of the credit and blame for their teams success or lack there of. They're the ones who end up on the bench if their team isn't winning and they're the ones who get head coaches fired.
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And all of that is flawed thinking.
 
DatWin said:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...n-mcfadden-oakland-raiders-headed-for-divorce

What do you guys think? If he does end up leaving the Raiders.

He's been about as injury prone as any other player in the league but he's undeniably a great talent when healthy. Best case scenario, Demarco goes down and then McFadden comes in...and then when Demarco is ready to come back, McFadden is probably injured again...just a revolving door of talented, injury-prone RBs.

Would you guys be interested?
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dude he sucks i wouldnt even take him over dunbar
 
Avery said:
AP is not the greatest RB of all-time. Not a knock on him, but when you've got guys like Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, etc., it's a tall order for anyone.

If AP could break the all-time rushing record and win a SB or two, then that argument can be made. If he can't, it's not an argument at all.
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What did the Lions win when Barry Sander was there?
 
He might be the most injury prone player in the league.
 
I'm not interested in acquiring any veteran running back. Not McFadden. Not Peterson. Nobody.

Not only is the shelf life short at that position but it's also becoming less of an impact to a football team with the way the passing game has evolved.
 
Risen Star said:
I'm not interested in acquiring any veteran running back. Not McFadden. Not Peterson. Nobody.

Not only is the shelf life short at that position but it's also becoming less of an impact to a football team with the way the passing game has evolved.
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We wouldn't have to "acquire" McFadden outside of what would cost to sign him outright. He's a free agent after this year I believe.
 
KJJ said:
How about giving your explanation as to why and let's see who's thinking is flawed.
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You mean I need to explain to you why giving 1 player the credit or blame for the "success or lack thereof of a team" is an incredibly silly way to view things?
 
Toruk_Makto said:
We wouldn't have to "acquire" McFadden outside of what would cost to sign him outright. He's a free agent after this year I believe.
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When you sign a free agent, you are acquiring him.

Try and keep up with the others.
 
Toruk_Makto said:
You mean I need to explain to you why giving 1 player the credit or blame for the "success or lack thereof of a team" is an incredibly silly way to view things?
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No one player gets "all" the credit or blame but the QB influences the outcome of games more than any other player on a team which is why they're the one player who gets the hook when things are going real bad. Do you think Seattle would be where they are had Russell Wilson not come along? The QB is the only player on a team that's given a W/L record. If the Texans had an efficient QB they would be in the playoff hunt right now and Gary Kubiak would still be their HC would you agree or disagree with that?
 
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