Hypothetical - What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test?

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I was posting in a different thread, and I thought of a fun hypothetical thread. What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test? (Granted, I wasn't even a teenager when this happened) Let's jump into the TARDIS and go back to 2003, where we begin our adventure to set the stage.

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So, in 2003, Bill Parcells was taking over as the Cowboys head coach following 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons under Dave Campo. The draft of QBs that year consisted of the likes of Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, and Kyler Boller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NFL_Draft) being taken in round 1. The Cowboys would bring in an UDFA QB that year by the name of Tony Romo, but the FO and the staff at the time appeared to have felt that Quincy Carter was the best option available to start for the Cowboys that year. The Cowboys would go 10-6, make the playoffs, and lose to the Panthers in the playoffs. In 2004, Carter looked poised to start again, but they'd bring in Vinny Testaverde to be the backup (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde). The Cowboys would trade the first round pick that year to Buffalo, which led to the Cowboys getting 2 first round picks a year later. Now, come to the point of this thread having set the stage.

So, Quincy Carter famously was cut on 4 August (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Carter), which resulted in Romo making the team. It turned out later that it was due to a failed drug test. However, suppose Quincy Carter doesn't fail the test? What would have happened? This is where the fun begins.

So, for the 2004 season, I think Quincy starts, Vinny is the backup, and Romo ends up on the PS. Let's suppose that the Cowboys go 6-10 like they did anyway that year.

So, on this hypothetical timeline, how differently do the Cowboys play the draft in 2005? I suspect we probably get DWare with our first of two first round picks. However, I can't help but wonder, would the Cowboys have drafted Aaron Rodgers with the second first round pick? I think it's telling that, with what actually happened, the Cowboys appeared to pass up on Rodgers in favour of Romo, who was apparently being developed to start. But, in this hypothetical situation, I do think the Cowboys might have taken Rodgers had Carter not failed his drug test.

I'd imagine, just as with Green Bay, Rodgers probably doesn't start in 2005, so, we end up with Bledsoe or Carter starting at first. Then, just as when Romo ended up starting against the Giants in 2006, I think the timeline would continue with Rodgers taking over that game. What I'm curious about is how would Rodgers have developed with us, and what would our fortunes have been like?

Don't get me wrong. I love what Romo did. I always appreciate what Romo did, and I think he was an amazing QB. That said, I think these hypocritical thoughts are always fun too. I can't help but wonder how things would have been different.
 

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I was posting in a different thread, and I thought of a fun hypothetical thread. What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test? (Granted, I wasn't even a teenager when this happened) Let's jump into the TARDIS and go back to 2003, where we begin our adventure to set the stage.

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So, in 2003, Bill Parcells was taking over as the Cowboys head coach following 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons under Dave Campo. The draft of QBs that year consisted of the likes of Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, and Kyler Boller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NFL_Draft) being taken in round 1. The Cowboys would bring in an UDFA QB that year by the name of Tony Romo, but the FO and the staff at the time appeared to have felt that Quincy Carter was the best option available to start for the Cowboys that year. The Cowboys would go 10-6, make the playoffs, and lose to the Panthers in the playoffs. In 2004, Carter looked poised to start again, but they'd bring in Vinny Testaverde to be the backup (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde). The Cowboys would trade the first round pick that year to Buffalo, which led to the Cowboys getting 2 first round picks a year later. Now, come to the point of this thread having set the stage.

So, Quincy Carter famously was cut on 4 August (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Carter), which resulted in Romo making the team. It turned out later that it was due to a failed drug test. However, suppose Quincy Carter doesn't fail the test? What would have happened? This is where the fun begins.

So, for the 2004 season, I think Quincy starts, Vinny is the backup, and Romo ends up on the PS. Let's suppose that the Cowboys go 6-10 like they did anyway that year.

So, on this hypothetical timeline, how differently do the Cowboys play the draft in 2005? I suspect we probably get DWare with our first of two first round picks. However, I can't help but wonder, would the Cowboys have drafted Aaron Rodgers with the second first round pick? I think it's telling that, with what actually happened, the Cowboys appeared to pass up on Rodgers in favour of Romo, who was apparently being developed to start. But, in this hypothetical situation, I do think the Cowboys might have taken Rodgers had Carter not failed his drug test.

I'd imagine, just as with Green Bay, Rodgers probably doesn't start in 2005, so, we end up with Bledsoe or Carter starting at first. Then, just as when Romo ended up starting against the Giants in 2006, I think the timeline would continue with Rodgers taking over that game. What I'm curious about is how would Rodgers have developed with us, and what would our fortunes have been like?

Don't get me wrong. I love what Romo did. I always appreciate what Romo did, and I think he was an amazing QB. That said, I think these hypocritical thoughts are always fun too. I can't help but wonder how things would have been different.
What would have happened? Hell would have frozen over!!
 
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Quincy is a nice guy that made bad choices. He moved down to my area several years ago...his girlfriend was from here. I interviewed him for a position, but he got into a little trouble again. He has since done well. He runs QB camps....I. believe he moved to San Antonio. Good guy, don't think he was the great QB that Jerry made him out to be.
He runs the Quincy Carter foundation. Look it up on Facebook. He's doing well.
 

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Quincy is a nice guy that made bad choices. He moved down to my area several years ago...his girlfriend was from here. I interviewed him for a position, but he got into a little trouble again. He has since done well. He runs QB camps....I. believe he moved to San Antonio. Good guy, don't think he was the great QB that Jerry made him out to be.
He runs the Quincy Carter foundation. Look it up on Facebook. He's doing well.

And I've mentioned that I've dmed with him a few times and met him pregame in 2002 prior to the Panthers game. He's a very nice person. I just can't help but wonder what happens if this situation were to have played out.
 

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I was posting in a different thread, and I thought of a fun hypothetical thread. What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test? (Granted, I wasn't even a teenager when this happened) Let's jump into the TARDIS and go back to 2003, where we begin our adventure to set the stage.

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So, in 2003, Bill Parcells was taking over as the Cowboys head coach following 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons under Dave Campo. The draft of QBs that year consisted of the likes of Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, and Kyler Boller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NFL_Draft) being taken in round 1. The Cowboys would bring in an UDFA QB that year by the name of Tony Romo, but the FO and the staff at the time appeared to have felt that Quincy Carter was the best option available to start for the Cowboys that year. The Cowboys would go 10-6, make the playoffs, and lose to the Panthers in the playoffs. In 2004, Carter looked poised to start again, but they'd bring in Vinny Testaverde to be the backup (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde). The Cowboys would trade the first round pick that year to Buffalo, which led to the Cowboys getting 2 first round picks a year later. Now, come to the point of this thread having set the stage.

So, Quincy Carter famously was cut on 4 August (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Carter), which resulted in Romo making the team. It turned out later that it was due to a failed drug test. However, suppose Quincy Carter doesn't fail the test? What would have happened? This is where the fun begins.

So, for the 2004 season, I think Quincy starts, Vinny is the backup, and Romo ends up on the PS. Let's suppose that the Cowboys go 6-10 like they did anyway that year.

So, on this hypothetical timeline, how differently do the Cowboys play the draft in 2005? I suspect we probably get DWare with our first of two first round picks. However, I can't help but wonder, would the Cowboys have drafted Aaron Rodgers with the second first round pick? I think it's telling that, with what actually happened, the Cowboys appeared to pass up on Rodgers in favour of Romo, who was apparently being developed to start. But, in this hypothetical situation, I do think the Cowboys might have taken Rodgers had Carter not failed his drug test.

I'd imagine, just as with Green Bay, Rodgers probably doesn't start in 2005, so, we end up with Bledsoe or Carter starting at first. Then, just as when Romo ended up starting against the Giants in 2006, I think the timeline would continue with Rodgers taking over that game. What I'm curious about is how would Rodgers have developed with us, and what would our fortunes have been like?

Don't get me wrong. I love what Romo did. I always appreciate what Romo did, and I think he was an amazing QB. That said, I think these hypocritical thoughts are always fun too. I can't help but wonder how things would have been different.
Quincy’s best season by far was 17td to 21int as he was carried into the playoffs by the defense taking advantage of a week schedule. If not for the drug suspension, Parcels would have benched and eventually released 2-3 games into the following season without the convenient excuse.
The end!
 

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Quincy’s best season by far was 17td to 21int as he was carried into the playoffs by the defense taking advantage of a week schedule. If not for the drug suspension, Parcels would have benched and eventually released 2-3 games into the following season without the convenient excuse.
The end!

Sure, but, again, would Romo have been brought up from the PS? Or would Parcells have gotten Rodgers in the following draft?
 

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Quincy is a nice guy that made bad choices. He moved down to my area several years ago...his girlfriend was from here. I interviewed him for a position, but he got into a little trouble again. He has since done well. He runs QB camps....I. believe he moved to San Antonio. Good guy, don't think he was the great QB that Jerry made him out to be.
He runs the Quincy Carter foundation. Look it up on Facebook. He's doing well.
Just goes to show you that you can turn your life around if you want to bad enough. Glad to hear this.
 

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I was posting in a different thread, and I thought of a fun hypothetical thread. What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test? (Granted, I wasn't even a teenager when this happened) Let's jump into the TARDIS and go back to 2003, where we begin our adventure to set the stage.

200w.webp



So, in 2003, Bill Parcells was taking over as the Cowboys head coach following 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons under Dave Campo. The draft of QBs that year consisted of the likes of Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, and Kyler Boller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NFL_Draft) being taken in round 1. The Cowboys would bring in an UDFA QB that year by the name of Tony Romo, but the FO and the staff at the time appeared to have felt that Quincy Carter was the best option available to start for the Cowboys that year. The Cowboys would go 10-6, make the playoffs, and lose to the Panthers in the playoffs. In 2004, Carter looked poised to start again, but they'd bring in Vinny Testaverde to be the backup (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde). The Cowboys would trade the first round pick that year to Buffalo, which led to the Cowboys getting 2 first round picks a year later. Now, come to the point of this thread having set the stage.

So, Quincy Carter famously was cut on 4 August (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Carter), which resulted in Romo making the team. It turned out later that it was due to a failed drug test. However, suppose Quincy Carter doesn't fail the test? What would have happened? This is where the fun begins.

So, for the 2004 season, I think Quincy starts, Vinny is the backup, and Romo ends up on the PS. Let's suppose that the Cowboys go 6-10 like they did anyway that year.

So, on this hypothetical timeline, how differently do the Cowboys play the draft in 2005? I suspect we probably get DWare with our first of two first round picks. However, I can't help but wonder, would the Cowboys have drafted Aaron Rodgers with the second first round pick? I think it's telling that, with what actually happened, the Cowboys appeared to pass up on Rodgers in favour of Romo, who was apparently being developed to start. But, in this hypothetical situation, I do think the Cowboys might have taken Rodgers had Carter not failed his drug test.

I'd imagine, just as with Green Bay, Rodgers probably doesn't start in 2005, so, we end up with Bledsoe or Carter starting at first. Then, just as when Romo ended up starting against the Giants in 2006, I think the timeline would continue with Rodgers taking over that game. What I'm curious about is how would Rodgers have developed with us, and what would our fortunes have been like?

Don't get me wrong. I love what Romo did. I always appreciate what Romo did, and I think he was an amazing QB. That said, I think these hypocritical thoughts are always fun too. I can't help but wonder how things would have been different.
He was getting stoned at training camp and they knew that Tony Romo had excellent potential.
 

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I was posting in a different thread, and I thought of a fun hypothetical thread. What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test? (Granted, I wasn't even a teenager when this happened) Let's jump into the TARDIS and go back to 2003, where we begin our adventure to set the stage.

200w.webp



So, in 2003, Bill Parcells was taking over as the Cowboys head coach following 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons under Dave Campo. The draft of QBs that year consisted of the likes of Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, and Kyler Boller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NFL_Draft) being taken in round 1. The Cowboys would bring in an UDFA QB that year by the name of Tony Romo, but the FO and the staff at the time appeared to have felt that Quincy Carter was the best option available to start for the Cowboys that year. The Cowboys would go 10-6, make the playoffs, and lose to the Panthers in the playoffs. In 2004, Carter looked poised to start again, but they'd bring in Vinny Testaverde to be the backup (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde). The Cowboys would trade the first round pick that year to Buffalo, which led to the Cowboys getting 2 first round picks a year later. Now, come to the point of this thread having set the stage.

So, Quincy Carter famously was cut on 4 August (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Carter), which resulted in Romo making the team. It turned out later that it was due to a failed drug test. However, suppose Quincy Carter doesn't fail the test? What would have happened? This is where the fun begins.

So, for the 2004 season, I think Quincy starts, Vinny is the backup, and Romo ends up on the PS. Let's suppose that the Cowboys go 6-10 like they did anyway that year.

So, on this hypothetical timeline, how differently do the Cowboys play the draft in 2005? I suspect we probably get DWare with our first of two first round picks. However, I can't help but wonder, would the Cowboys have drafted Aaron Rodgers with the second first round pick? I think it's telling that, with what actually happened, the Cowboys appeared to pass up on Rodgers in favour of Romo, who was apparently being developed to start. But, in this hypothetical situation, I do think the Cowboys might have taken Rodgers had Carter not failed his drug test.

I'd imagine, just as with Green Bay, Rodgers probably doesn't start in 2005, so, we end up with Bledsoe or Carter starting at first. Then, just as when Romo ended up starting against the Giants in 2006, I think the timeline would continue with Rodgers taking over that game. What I'm curious about is how would Rodgers have developed with us, and what would our fortunes have been like?

Don't get me wrong. I love what Romo did. I always appreciate what Romo did, and I think he was an amazing QB. That said, I think these hypocritical thoughts are always fun too. I can't help but wonder how things would have been different.
Answer: One of the most talented QBs of all time would've never played the game, disenfranchising a lot of fans of a lot of fantastic memories. That's because many "talent scouts" and many times "coaches" don't know talent if they tripped over it.
 
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