Hypothetical - What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test?

[RustyBourneHorse]

He was getting stoned at training camp and they knew that Tony Romo had excellent potential.

I get that. I'm just curious what would've happened if he wasn't doing that.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Answer: One of the most talented QBs of all time would've never played the game, disenfranchising a lot of fans of a lot of fantastic memories. That's because many "talent scouts" and many times "coaches" don't know talent if they tripped over it.

I agree, and I think Romo was one of the best QBs in the league.

 

[jazzcat22]

I predicted that they would keep Romo and cut Carter.

Did Carter get cut before preseason games?

But yeah, after those games, if Romo got playing time, you could have been correct.
But if Carter was not cut, then how much playing time would Romo have gotten?

 

[OGSixshooter]

I don't think "Quimphy" was leadership, Battlefield Commander material. (Neither was Romo, but Parcells had seen enough of Bledsoe.) Looking back, I think Tuna was just humoring Jerry because Jerry picked Quincy and saw something in him. There's a reason they kept like 4 QBs. That wasn't clear to me at the time...but in retrospect...Quincy was trying to get himself together. How was he going to lead men?

What's hilarious is that Quincy was only smoking weed. He'd be OK today.

I was THE LEADER of the ABC club.."Anybody But Carter".

 

[OGSixshooter]

He was getting stoned at training camp and they knew that Tony Romo had excellent potential.

Is that verified that it was at camp? Wow...if so.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

Tony Romo would have been released. He was like QB #4 or #5 at that time.

Probably wins a Superbowl with Denver and goes in the HOF

 

[Motorola]

Quincy is a nice guy that made bad choices. He moved down to my area several years ago...his girlfriend was from here. I interviewed him for a position, but he got into a little trouble again. He has since done well. He runs QB camps....I. believe he moved to San Antonio. Good guy, don't think he was the great QB that Jerry made him out to be.
He runs the Quincy Carter foundation. Look it up on Facebook. He's doing well.

Carter went to Southwwest Dekalb HS - located in southeastern metro Atlanta (Dekalb County). Back then they were a powerhouse football program under legendary coach William "Buck" Godfrey.
Carter and his Panthers won the 4A state championship in 1995.
He was honored as HS Player of the Year by both Parade All-American and USA Today.
Carter had signed a letter-of-intent with Georgia Tech in 1996, but went to play baseball when the Chicago Cubs selected him 52nd overall in the MLB draft.
After a couple of seasons in single A- ball, he decided to go back to football - but signed with Georgia Tech's arch rival Georgia.
That generated a lot of debate and desension in Atlanta and the state of Georgia.
The Yellow Jackets Athletics Department offcially contested Carter's move through the NCAA, but were overuled.

 

[Kevinicus]

Romo would have been signed elsewhere.

Cowboys still would have gone with Bledsoe.

Packers still get Rodgers.

Team would have sucked to watch awhile longer.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Romo would have been signed elsewhere.

Cowboys still would have gone with Bledsoe.

Packers still get Rodgers.

Team would have sucked to watch awhile longer.

I'm adding in Rodgers coming here into the hypothetical scenario. I think, if the situation happens, that we might actually have gone with Rodgers.

 

[john van brocklin]

I was posting in a different thread, and I thought of a fun hypothetical thread. What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test? (Granted, I wasn't even a teenager when this happened) Let's jump into the TARDIS and go back to 2003, where we begin our adventure to set the stage.

So, in 2003, Bill Parcells was taking over as the Cowboys head coach following 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons under Dave Campo. The draft of QBs that year consisted of the likes of Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, and Kyler Boller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NFL_Draft) being taken in round 1. The Cowboys would bring in an UDFA QB that year by the name of Tony Romo, but the FO and the staff at the time appeared to have felt that Quincy Carter was the best option available to start for the Cowboys that year. The Cowboys would go 10-6, make the playoffs, and lose to the Panthers in the playoffs. In 2004, Carter looked poised to start again, but they'd bring in Vinny Testaverde to be the backup (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde). The Cowboys would trade the first round pick that year to Buffalo, which led to the Cowboys getting 2 first round picks a year later. Now, come to the point of this thread having set the stage.

So, Quincy Carter famously was cut on 4 August (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Carter), which resulted in Romo making the team. It turned out later that it was due to a failed drug test. However, suppose Quincy Carter doesn't fail the test? What would have happened? This is where the fun begins.

So, for the 2004 season, I think Quincy starts, Vinny is the backup, and Romo ends up on the PS. Let's suppose that the Cowboys go 6-10 like they did anyway that year.

So, on this hypothetical timeline, how differently do the Cowboys play the draft in 2005? I suspect we probably get DWare with our first of two first round picks. However, I can't help but wonder, would the Cowboys have drafted Aaron Rodgers with the second first round pick? I think it's telling that, with what actually happened, the Cowboys appeared to pass up on Rodgers in favour of Romo, who was apparently being developed to start. But, in this hypothetical situation, I do think the Cowboys might have taken Rodgers had Carter not failed his drug test.

I'd imagine, just as with Green Bay, Rodgers probably doesn't start in 2005, so, we end up with Bledsoe or Carter starting at first. Then, just as when Romo ended up starting against the Giants in 2006, I think the timeline would continue with Rodgers taking over that game. What I'm curious about is how would Rodgers have developed with us, and what would our fortunes have been like?

Don't get me wrong. I love what Romo did. I always appreciate what Romo did, and I think he was an amazing QB. That said, I think these hypocritical thoughts are always fun too. I can't help but wonder how things would have been different.

Quincy was not going to be our long-term qb.

 

[cb626]

I don't think it wouldn't have changed their approach to the draft. With or without Carter they had dung at QB. In reality they had dung at QB. They where content to stay with dung at QB.

They have since been content to find a decent to good QB and just stop looking. It is probably the thing that frustrates me most about the team.

 

[Ranching]

Carter went to Southwwest Dekalb HS - located in southeastern metro Atlanta (Dekalb County). Back then they were a powerhouse football program under legendary coach William "Buck" Godfrey.
Carter and his Panthers won the 4A state championship in 1995.
He was honored as HS Player of the Year by both Parade All-American and USA Today.
Carter had signed a letter-of-intent with Georgia Tech in 1996, but went to play baseball when the Chicago Cubs selected him 52nd overall in the MLB draft.
After a couple of seasons in single A- ball, he decided to go back to football - but signed with Georgia Tech's arch rival Georgia.
That generated a lot of debate and desension in Atlanta and the state of Georgia.
The Yellow Jackets Athletics Department offcially contested Carter's move through the NCAA, but were overuled.

I believe he went to Dekalbs homecoming last night. He posted some pics on his personal fb page.

 

[Ranching]

https://www.thequincycarterfoundation.com/

 

[Pass2Run]

I was posting in a different thread, and I thought of a fun hypothetical thread. What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test? (Granted, I wasn't even a teenager when this happened) Let's jump into the TARDIS and go back to 2003, where we begin our adventure to set the stage.

So, in 2003, Bill Parcells was taking over as the Cowboys head coach following 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons under Dave Campo. The draft of QBs that year consisted of the likes of Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, and Kyler Boller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NFL_Draft) being taken in round 1. The Cowboys would bring in an UDFA QB that year by the name of Tony Romo, but the FO and the staff at the time appeared to have felt that Quincy Carter was the best option available to start for the Cowboys that year. The Cowboys would go 10-6, make the playoffs, and lose to the Panthers in the playoffs. In 2004, Carter looked poised to start again, but they'd bring in Vinny Testaverde to be the backup (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde). The Cowboys would trade the first round pick that year to Buffalo, which led to the Cowboys getting 2 first round picks a year later. Now, come to the point of this thread having set the stage.

So, Quincy Carter famously was cut on 4 August (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Carter), which resulted in Romo making the team. It turned out later that it was due to a failed drug test. However, suppose Quincy Carter doesn't fail the test? What would have happened? This is where the fun begins.

So, for the 2004 season, I think Quincy starts, Vinny is the backup, and Romo ends up on the PS. Let's suppose that the Cowboys go 6-10 like they did anyway that year.

So, on this hypothetical timeline, how differently do the Cowboys play the draft in 2005? I suspect we probably get DWare with our first of two first round picks. However, I can't help but wonder, would the Cowboys have drafted Aaron Rodgers with the second first round pick? I think it's telling that, with what actually happened, the Cowboys appeared to pass up on Rodgers in favour of Romo, who was apparently being developed to start. But, in this hypothetical situation, I do think the Cowboys might have taken Rodgers had Carter not failed his drug test.

I'd imagine, just as with Green Bay, Rodgers probably doesn't start in 2005, so, we end up with Bledsoe or Carter starting at first. Then, just as when Romo ended up starting against the Giants in 2006, I think the timeline would continue with Rodgers taking over that game. What I'm curious about is how would Rodgers have developed with us, and what would our fortunes have been like?

Don't get me wrong. I love what Romo did. I always appreciate what Romo did, and I think he was an amazing QB. That said, I think these hypocritical thoughts are always fun too. I can't help but wonder how things would have been different.

I take Romo over Rogers, personally.

 

[Beaker42]

Hahahahaha, and I'm not sure how my fandom would've held up as I started with Campo. So, I like timeline we are currently on, but, I can't help but wonder what would've happened if we had gotten Rodgers.

Jerry’s prideful arse should’ve been roasted for making us sit through 3 5-11 seasons under Campo and 3 8-8 under Boy Wonder. I still hate that he owns this team.

 

[Pass2Run]

He was getting stoned at training camp and they knew that Tony Romo had excellent potential.

He wasn't getting stoned on the green. He was getting blasted on that thing plummers are notorious for. If it was just green, I think Parcells even may have exercised some patience. He wasn't a dinosaur. And I think Parcells cared enough about him to have given him a second chance.
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Quincy insinuates and maybe even flat out lies he had a weed problem. But anyone with a semblance of a vclue knows better.

That said, aside from his problem, Quincy was more talented than most Cowboys fans will ever give him credit for. Then again, so was Romo. But very few knew that at that time.

 

[Motorola]

I believe he went to Dekalbs homecoming last night. He posted some pics on his personal fb page.

During the early to mid 90's I had a coworker whose two sons attended Southwest DeKalb with Carter - her eldest played on the baseball team with him.
When I would ask her about the accolades and attention Carter garnered...and how it affected him....she always said her sons admired Quincy for never "getting the big head" about his success.

 

[VaqueroTD]

I think I read somewhere that Romo would have been released, not PS signed. Not sure when he started flashing the talent but I do remember it being before the season he replaced Bledsoe. I’m no scout, but there are a few players I’ve watched and realize they have something special. I remember Romo being one of them, but only during preseason game action. If a fan can see it, some scout probably would have seen it too, and signed or taken him from our PS.

As far as Quincy and Vinny, I’m sure Carter would have had a few more wins because he was much more mobile than Vinny who was rock-like by that age, but he was still better at reading defenses and accuracy, so I doubt many more wins. I remember a very washed up Eddie George when we wanted to run.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I was posting in a different thread, and I thought of a fun hypothetical thread. What would have happened if Quincy Carter had passed his drug test? (Granted, I wasn't even a teenager when this happened) Let's jump into the TARDIS and go back to 2003, where we begin our adventure to set the stage.

So, in 2003, Bill Parcells was taking over as the Cowboys head coach following 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons under Dave Campo. The draft of QBs that year consisted of the likes of Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, and Kyler Boller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NFL_Draft) being taken in round 1. The Cowboys would bring in an UDFA QB that year by the name of Tony Romo, but the FO and the staff at the time appeared to have felt that Quincy Carter was the best option available to start for the Cowboys that year. The Cowboys would go 10-6, make the playoffs, and lose to the Panthers in the playoffs. In 2004, Carter looked poised to start again, but they'd bring in Vinny Testaverde to be the backup (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde). The Cowboys would trade the first round pick that year to Buffalo, which led to the Cowboys getting 2 first round picks a year later. Now, come to the point of this thread having set the stage.

So, Quincy Carter famously was cut on 4 August (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Carter), which resulted in Romo making the team. It turned out later that it was due to a failed drug test. However, suppose Quincy Carter doesn't fail the test? What would have happened? This is where the fun begins.

So, for the 2004 season, I think Quincy starts, Vinny is the backup, and Romo ends up on the PS. Let's suppose that the Cowboys go 6-10 like they did anyway that year.

So, on this hypothetical timeline, how differently do the Cowboys play the draft in 2005? I suspect we probably get DWare with our first of two first round picks. However, I can't help but wonder, would the Cowboys have drafted Aaron Rodgers with the second first round pick? I think it's telling that, with what actually happened, the Cowboys appeared to pass up on Rodgers in favour of Romo, who was apparently being developed to start. But, in this hypothetical situation, I do think the Cowboys might have taken Rodgers had Carter not failed his drug test.

I'd imagine, just as with Green Bay, Rodgers probably doesn't start in 2005, so, we end up with Bledsoe or Carter starting at first. Then, just as when Romo ended up starting against the Giants in 2006, I think the timeline would continue with Rodgers taking over that game. What I'm curious about is how would Rodgers have developed with us, and what would our fortunes have been like?

Don't get me wrong. I love what Romo did. I always appreciate what Romo did, and I think he was an amazing QB. That said, I think these hypocritical thoughts are always fun too. I can't help but wonder how things would have been different.

Does Romo get cut or buried on the depth chart and end up with Payton in NO in 2006?

 

[RodeoJake]

I'm fairly certain the Doctor would have used the Tardis to correct the situation, and convince Jerry to allow Riversong to be the Thanksgiving half time entertainment.