Hypothetically speaking, would you take Cowher as HC if...

[BotchedLobotomy]

it meant losing the boy genius?

I'd take it in a minute. He'd bring instant leadership to this team. The biggest flaw with this team is it's lack of leadership at every level except maybe ownership.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

No--I cannot get past the steeler smell.....it stinks

 

[BlueStar22]

I don't see how Cowher wouldn't want to keep Garrett. He's a defensive guy.

 

[Boysboy]

it meant losing the boy genius?

I'd take it in a minute. He'd bring instant leadership to this team. The biggest flaw with this team is it's lack of leadership at every level except maybe ownership.

1) Cowher was also the same guy who chocked away 3/4 home AFC Title games, and almost lost the 4th in '95 b/c a pass to an Indy receiver in the endzone hit him and was almost caught.

2) He made that '05 run largely b/c one of his guys cheapshotted Carson Palmer, and then needed the zebras to beat a lightweight Hawks team in the Super Bowl.

3) He had guys with fire like Jerome Bettis-we don't have anyone near that calibre. When Bettis retired the year after, Pitt was a completely different team.

4) He's an old-school, Joe Gibbs type of coach who's too stubborn in playing line'em up, smash'em in the mouth type of football instead of focusing on matchups more.

So yeah-he can keep Redball, and for that matter, he can keep Stew-wouldn't want him here either way.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

probably not.

someone in the locker room needs to step up and be a leader, you can't just buy leadership. And Garrett is so young with too much potential.

 

[Nav22]

I'll never understand the love affair with Cowher. Yeah, he won a Super Bowl... after what, 14 years on the job?

Call me greedy, but I have higher expectations for the Cowboys. If I was promised a Super Bowl win in 2022 in exchange for 0 Super Bowls from now until then, I'd pass in a heartbeat.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I would. Cowher had a quality quarterback in Pitt once with Roethlisberger. He made it to the big dance with the likes of O'Donnell. He even got a winning record with Kordell.

This may be sacrilige here but I think Garrett was put into the fire too quickly as a game caller and i think it would be high folly to force him into the HC position. Hes only been a coach for 3 years after all.

That being said I would be very surprised if Cowher would take the gig. then again if it worked with Parcells it could work with the other Bill too.

 

[dmoore]

I'll keep Wade. The last thing we need is to have our team learn another system while or championship window is closing. The reason Cowher was so successful was because he had unbelievable job security. Consistance in coaching and management is one of the biggest keys a team can have.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I like him and love the way he plays football. To me the passing game is to only threaten a D and keep them honest. But I would also have to pass on him becoming a coach for us. Lets see where what we've got takes us.

 

[Mansta54]

Nope, no thanks!!!!!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'll never understand the love affair with Cowher. Yeah, he won a Super Bowl... after what, 14 years on the job?

Call me greedy, but I have higher expectations for the Cowboys. If I was promised a Super Bowl win in 2022 in exchange for 0 Super Bowls from now until then, I'd pass in a heartbeat.

9 Division wins in 14 years two SB appearances with a win. A .623 win % over 14 years with generally bad QBs.

i hope you realize something like 30 coaches in the history of the NFL have ever won a SB. hes one of them.

 

[Nav22]

hes one of them.

As is Barry Switzer. I see your point, but I don't think the team is built for his style anyways. His philosophy seems to prefer a "care-taker" QB, and Romo is anything but that.

We'd be better off keeping Garrett so Romo can continue to develop under his system. And maybe we finally dump Brian Stewart and bring in someone like Dom Capers to help run the D.

 

[jobberone]

I'll keep Wade. The last thing we need is to have our team learn another system while or championship window is closing. The reason Cowher was so successful was because he had unbelievable job security. Consistance in coaching and management is one of the biggest keys a team can have.

That's a good point but only if the coach is worth having around. Landry, Noll, Lombardi stayed because they won and had great owners. Cowher did win with less talent on offense as we have now. And his defenses were always good, hard hitting and pretty dependable.

I'd have to seriously think about it if I were owner. I'm still into seeing what we have at the helm already. I'm not ready to ditch him. And Garrett may not be ready to be a HC. We will lose him if he isn't promoted when the time comes.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As is Barry Switzer. I see your point, but I don't think the team is built for his style anyways. His philosophy seems to prefer a "care-taker" QB, and Romo is anything but that.

We'd be better off keeping Garrett so Romo can continue to develop under his system. And maybe we finally dump Brian Stewart and bring in someone like Dom Capers to help run the D.

Yeah and so has Jimmy johnson, Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry and a slew of others. You act as if winning the Super Bowl is a bad thing. Its pretty much akin to saying that in 20+ years Landry couldnt win more than two. Its hogwash.

We run a 3-4 team which is his forte. In addition, he ran the bus driver scheme because of what his QB situation. Stewart, Tomczak, and
o'Donnell oh my. That being said i think you need to revisit that whole thing because he had Stewart for several years and he was hardly the bus driver type. He also started to loosen the reins on Roethlisberger in his second year.

The man likes to run the ball and he will demand that his OC not abandon the run. I sure as heck wish that he was doing that against the Giants last year and the Skins this year. At the same time as he showed with Gailey as his OC that he isn't afraid to pass the ball.

 

[BHendri5]

Not just NO!, but blank NO!

 

[Boysboy]

Yeah and so has Jimmy johnson, Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry and a slew of others. You act as if winning the Super Bowl is a bad thing. Its pretty much akin to saying that in 20+ years Landry couldnt win more than two. Its hogwash.

We run a 3-4 team which is his forte. In addition, he ran the bus driver scheme because of what his QB situation. Stewart, Tomczak, and
o'Donnell oh my. That being said i think you need to revisit that whole thing because he had Stewart for several years and he was hardly the bus driver type. He also started to loosen the reins on Roethlisberger in his second year.

The man likes to run the ball and he will demand that his OC not abandon the run. I sure as heck wish that he was doing that against the Giants last year and the Skins this year. At the same time as he showed with Gailey as his OC that he isn't afraid to pass the ball.

How old is Cowher? Really-he's not exactly young anymore, at least not like in '92 when he was first hired.(would think he's close to 60 now)

Pt being that the BIG risk with these older coaches is that 1) They're not going to have alot of longevity with the same team(not only Bill P, but Vermeil among others was the same way too), and 2) These older coaches, instead of exercising patience in rebuilding their teams, tend to bring back alot of their older guys from their previous teams.

When Mike Ditka came to New Orleans years after he was let go by Chicago, he did just that, the team stunk it up. Cowher would do the same-wouldn't surprise me at all if he brought back Bettis out of retirement, and possibly even Greg Lloyd, O'Donnell, and even Kordell. Heck-Bill P did the same when he was here.

 

[RainMan]

I'm not sure Cowher is a good fit for this team.

Cowher strikes me as the kind of guy that would want to come into a situation and put his print everywhere -- not inherit a team on the cusp and win with someone else's players.

For instance, I don't see him wanting to deal with Owens, might want bigger linemen/linebackers for his 3-4, want "his" coaches across the board, etc. I don't think we're in a situation where we want a new voice coming in and taking a hatchet to aspects of this team. And I don't see Cowher being the type of coach that would accept Jerry saying, "Here, go win with these players," and doing it without objection.

As an aside, I think this team is built to hand over to Garrett. We don't really have another head-coaching candidate, and as I said above, I don't think we're built to bring in an outside voice who would want to come in and overhaul some aspects. The questions remains, obviously, is Garrett fit to be Wade's successor if we deem he needs to go?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How old is Cowher? Really-he's not exactly young anymore, at least not like in '92 when he was first hired.(would think he's close to 60 now)

Pt being that the BIG risk with these older coaches is that 1) They're not going to have alot of longevity with the same team(not only Bill P, but Vermeil among others was the same way too), and 2) These older coaches, instead of exercising patience in rebuilding their teams, tend to bring back alot of their older guys from their previous teams.

When Mike Ditka came to New Orleans years after he was let go by Chicago, he did just that, the team stunk it up. Cowher would do the same-wouldn't surprise me at all if he brought back Bettis out of retirement, and possibly even Greg Lloyd, O'Donnell, and even Kordell. Heck-Bill P did the same when he was here.

Hes 51 and Cowher has only been out of coaching for a year.

 

[Boysboy]

That's a good point but only if the coach is worth having around. Landry, Noll, Lombardi stayed because they won and had great owners. Cowher did win with less talent on offense as we have now. And his defenses were always good, hard hitting and pretty dependable.

I'd have to seriously think about it if I were owner. I'm still into seeing what we have at the helm already. I'm not ready to ditch him. And Garrett may not be ready to be a HC. We will lose him if he isn't promoted when the time comes.

The Kordell experiment didn't last long though. He had like a couple of good seasons, then ended up getting exposed which put this team back in transition for another 5 years. It wasn't until they drafted Big Ben when they became a contender again.

 

[Boysboy]

I'm not sure Cowher is a good fit for this team.

Cowher strikes me as the kind of guy that would want to come into a situation and put his print everywhere -- not inherit a team on the cusp and win with someone else's players.

For instance, I don't see him wanting to deal with Owens, might want bigger linemen/linebackers for his 3-4, want "his" coaches across the board, etc. I don't think we're in a situation where we want a new voice coming in and taking a hatchet to aspects of this team. And I don't see Cowher being the type of coach that would accept Jerry saying, "Here, go win with these players," and doing it without objection.

As an aside, I think this team is built to hand over to Garrett. We don't really have another head-coaching candidate, and as I said above, I don't think we're built to bring in an outside voice who would want to come in and overhaul some aspects. The questions remains, obviously, is Garrett fit to be Wade's successor if we deem he needs to go?

He had Plaxico Burress to deal with for 4 years, FWIW.