I ain't giving up on Trey Lance

KingCorcoran

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Yet somehow Romo did, Love did. Lance was having a hell of a game 323 passing yards, 90 yards rushing the physical talent is evident. Who is to say Lance doesn't get reps during the season, but im assuming the bulk of his development at this point is studying defenses.
I have a grand daughter in 4th grade. Great student. She could study NFL defenses. She’ll play as many regular snaps for the Cowboys this season as Lance will.
 

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The argument were about negatives that still persist. If you keep moving the goal posts all you create is confusion not victories
The conversation was about his development. The question was what has he improved over the last 4 years.

Comparing his negatives to others was moving the goal posts. Nice try.
 

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Rush is a solid QB for the Cowboys. He is limited physical but makes up for it with his knowledge of the system. What's wrong with having him as the backup while having the developmental QB as the 3rd string

Cooper Rush being limited physically and remaining the Cowboys back up QB just shows how much Trey Lance has to go in order to become the type of starting QB for the Cowboys some are hoping he turns into. Still clinging onto the hope of him flipping the switch and doing what he have seen Romo, Rodgers, and Love be able to do after sitting on the bench for a little while. Most of the QBs who ever sat to develop and learn, at some point still did enough to win the back up jobs on their team until they were ready to take over and become the starters. And I'm speaking of QBs who sat and then went on to have good to great NFL careers.

They were QB2 behind the guy they eventually replaced. For a 3rd round overall pick, Trey Lance having to sit behind even Cooper Rush who you said he limited, doesn't give me optimism that within a year's team. he'll suddenly be able to develop enough to become a reliable franchise type of QB for the Cowboys. In the event of Dak no longer being here in 2025. He would actually have to take a major step and have an amazing training camp, with at least some consistent preseason play for me to feel comfortable putting the Cowboys future on his shoulders. Instead of just drafting a QB fresh who isn't considered developmental and already has the skills to become an starting QB within his rookie season.

Lance needed to make some sort of progress at least to QB2 in order for me to feel like he has good odds of being the QB needed to start winning Super Bowls again. Which I thought was entire goal and point of moving on from Dak in the first place. Now the Cowboys should give Trey Lance how many years just to even show he can make the jump to a reliable. long termed QB for the Cowboys?
 

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Not true. I, and other fans, still like Dak to a degree, and will support and root for him. FAN FIRST.
I stopped reading after the bold part.
My post was directed at fans that think Trey Lance should be the starting QB over Dak this year. You sound like a true fan that wants the team to win and play the best player (Dak). If so, then the post was not directed at you. Dak should 100% be QB1 this year. In 2025 the QB1 should be Dak or some other QB not on the roster. Rush and Lance are not the answer for QB1.
 

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Cowboys are fortunate to have Lance
I disagree. I think that 4th round pick we used to trade for Lance could have been used to draft a RB this year. Or we could have used it to draft another position of need and used the $5 million guaranteed salary we are spending on Lance and the $2 million on Zeke to sign a legit RB. $7 million spent on Zeke and Lance and Derrick Henry was only $8 million. Which do you think would have had a bigger impact on our season? The combo of Lance/Zeke or Henry?
 

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My post was directed at fans that think Trey Lance should be the starting QB over Dak this year. You sound like a true fan that wants the team to win and play the best player (Dak). If so, then the post was not directed at you. Dak should 100% be QB1 this year. In 2025 the QB1 should be Dak or some other QB not on the roster. Rush and Lance are not the answer for QB1.
No to Dak as the '25 starter (at the price he is asking). What we object to is definitely saying Lance isn't the answer.
 
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I disagree. I think that 4th round pick we used to trade for Lance could have been used to draft a RB this year. Or we could have used it to draft another position of need and used the $5 million guaranteed salary we are spending on Lance and the $2 million on Zeke to sign a legit RB. $7 million spent on Zeke and Lance and Derrick Henry was only $8 million. Which do you think would have had a bigger impact on our season? The combo of Lance/Zeke or Henry?
That is all hypothetical make believe. At this point the argument is if You see something in him or not. I do
 

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The conversation was about his development. The question was what has he improved over the last 4 years.

Comparing his negatives to others was moving the goal posts. Nice try.
9 years and Dak still has the same negatives he came out of college with and you embrace him. 4 years later Lance still has some of the same weaknesses and you dispise and hate him

Amazing thing is that the negatives are eerily similar
 

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I disagree. I think that 4th round pick we used to trade for Lance could have been used to draft a RB this year. Or we could have used it to draft another position of need and used the $5 million guaranteed salary we are spending on Lance and the $2 million on Zeke to sign a legit RB. $7 million spent on Zeke and Lance and Derrick Henry was only $8 million. Which do you think would have had a bigger impact on our season? The combo of Lance/Zeke or Henry?
I don't want to call this a throw away year, but
 

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Cooper Rush being limited physically and remaining the Cowboys back up QB just shows how much Trey Lance has to go in order to become the type of starting QB for the Cowboys some are hoping he turns into. Still clinging onto the hope of him flipping the switch and doing what he have seen Romo, Rodgers, and Love be able to do after sitting on the bench for a little while. Most of the QBs who ever sat to develop and learn, at some point still did enough to win the back up jobs on their team until they were ready to take over and become the starters. And I'm speaking of QBs who sat and then went on to have good to great NFL careers.

They were QB2 behind the guy they eventually replaced. For a 3rd round overall pick, Trey Lance having to sit behind even Cooper Rush who you said he limited, doesn't give me optimism that within a year's team. he'll suddenly be able to develop enough to become a reliable franchise type of QB for the Cowboys. In the event of Dak no longer being here in 2025. He would actually have to take a major step and have an amazing training camp, with at least some consistent preseason play for me to feel comfortable putting the Cowboys future on his shoulders. Instead of just drafting a QB fresh who isn't considered developmental and already has the skills to become an starting QB within his rookie season.

Lance needed to make some sort of progress at least to QB2 in order for me to feel like he has good odds of being the QB needed to start winning Super Bowls again. Which I thought was entire goal and point of moving on from Dak in the first place. Now the Cowboys should give Trey Lance how many years just to even show he can make the jump to a reliable. long termed QB for the Cowboys?
Your straw man of Lance not being the number 2 does not hold water because of the Cooper factor. Cooper has real history that he has proven to have real success. Why should the Cowboys dump him?

As I said before it takes the pressure off Lance

Your belief that simply drafting a QB proves said QB is capable of starting day 1 is wishful thinking. More then likely said QB will struggle being thrown to the wolves. Why would the Cowboys do that with Lance already on the Roster and He has already gone through those growing pains?

Lance is the future of this franchise
 

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No to Dak as the '25 starter (at the price he is asking). What we object to is definitely saying Lance isn't the answer.
Sure, if Lance all of a sudden at the age of 24 learns how to throw the ball with accuracy and learns how to read defenses more quickly and make quicker decisions then he may eventually be the guy. Right now the only thing that impresses me is his ability to run. I haven't seen him make one single pass in preseason that gave me that WOW moment. Just mainly dink and dunk passes in which he was still struggling to get on target and out of his hand timely. I hope that I am wrong about him. I would love for the guy to be the answer. I am just not seeing it with him. I have zero confidence in him coming into a game and getting a win for the Cowboys and obviously McCarthy feels the same way since he is parked behind Rush.
 

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the film breakdown explains everything.

Jerry loves Lance.
facts > agendas


jerry loves lance so much that he is the 3rd string QB and he didn't pick up his 5th year option at a low price....Jerry loooovvvess lance LOL

Reality > drolling trance gaga's
 

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I thought Trey Lance was terrible….guess not.


you know why? because he played the most minutes of any QB in preseason.... geez you people try to hang on to anything to make Lance Love justified.

"...Among 25 QBs who had at least 50 dropbacks in preseason, Lance ranked 11th in completion rate (64.6%), 15th in yards per attempt (5.9), 16th in passing grade (65.6) and tied for first with five interceptions..."

definition of average.....
 
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