I don't believe Dak will just come in and light it up

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Total playoff stats by quarter:

4th quarter of 4 playoff games (4 total quarters)

26 of 41 63.4% Comp % 335 yards 2 td 1 int

Quarters 1-3 of 4 playoff games (12 total quarters)

63 of 101 62.4% Comp % 713 yards 4 td's 2 int's

The point? Dak accumulated 33% of his stats for the playoffs in the 4th quarter so where was he in the first 3 quarters of those games? To say Dak's overall stats showed he performed well is misleading as his play in the first 3 quarters of those games had an impact.

4 playoff games for Dak score to start the 4th quarter:

28-13 GB lead (GB won 34-31)

22-10 SEA leaf (Dallas won 24-22)

23-15 LAR lead (LAR won 30-22)

23-7 SF lead (SF won 23-17)
Oh boy...i gotta hand it to you, new and imaginative ways to try and diss Dak.

So you are contending that, even though Dak was great when we needed him most in the playoffs, he was inept prior to the 4th quarter? This is really the hill you are willing to die on?

lol.
 

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Oh boy...i gotta hand it to you, new and imaginative ways to try and diss Dak.

So you are contending that, even though Dak was great when we needed him most in the playoffs, he was inept prior to the 4th quarter? This is really the hill you are willing to die on?

lol.

Great in the playoffs when we needed him most? He is 1-3 in the playoffs and stats are what they are: Dak didn't play well the first 3 quarters of the games and accumulated 33% of his playoff stats in 4 quarters.
 

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Despite a solid job by Cooper Rush managing this team while Dak was gone, I don't believe Dak will just come in and light it up. Dak hasn’t had a chance to get into a groove with this offense like Rush has.

We have to show patience for a game or two (as long as we're winning) while Dak gets into a rhythm with this offense. This is not giving Dak any excuses or any passes, but I don't expect to see a solid outing by Dak until the first game after the bye because I still don't believe that hand is fully healed.

Do I believe Dak can play well enough to contribute to winning these next two games before the bye??? Absolutely. But do I think he's going to come in lighting it up?? Absolutely not. Again, let's not kid ourselves with expectations of some heroic performance by Dak after a long layoff recovering from the hand injury.

Oh yeah.... don't think for a minute that opposing defenses aren't going to take the opportunity to swipe at Dak's hand to see how well it holds up, so Rush need to stay ready!!

first off in 2021 not having priced and recovering from 2 injurers, he dropped 30+ on the Bucs defense.,. Who saw that coming. didn't look rusty, however after his calf injury, bad showing with Denver,

so we dont know what we are going to get..its against the lions D, so its possible he absolutely lights it up.

this is dak looking at that d and that run game from the bench the last 4 games....

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and when has he struggled to get this offense to 20 PPG since 2016, umm NEVER... blow up maybe not but get to 17-20 , umm yes..

game 1 was an outlier and a horrible gameplan with new and weak WR group Moore goes for broke 42 passes 18 runs against one of the best Defenses in football game 1 when they were fresh, healthy ,and saw the 20121 gameplan for the 2nd time with less talent , add a new rookie LT, new starting LG, average C all play together for the first time and then abandons the run.

that loss is on MOORE , zeke was running well like last week and instead of bringing the run game hard and often, he gives zeke 2 carries in the 2nd half.:thumbdown::huh::facepalm:

nearly all of our struggkes against better defenses is on MOORE and the OL with penalties and issues blocking.

rush didnt experience that until the eagles and tuned into apumkin ..it is October..so hey Happy Halloweeny MOORE!!
 

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Only way my Sunday gets ruined is if week 1 Dak shows up and we lose, but carry on with your trolling attempts, you're amusing me.
No you’re praying Dak fails. Everyone knows it. And you have plenty of company here.
 

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Only way my Sunday gets ruined is if week 1 Dak shows up and we lose, but carry on with your trolling attempts, you're amusing me.
you mean week one Kellen moore, Offensive line, penalties, wr not open, wr dropping passes, and game plans from Moore. and if the cant stop the run D shows up the cant run the ball offense? you mean that offense forcing 42 passes to 18 runs unbalanced mess? and is the Bucs d showing up>??

right, that was on Dak for sure.. whatever..
 

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first off in 2021 not having priced and recovering from 2 injurers, he dropped 30+ on the Bucs defense.,. Who saw that coming. didn't look rusty, however after his calf injury, bad showing with Denver,

so we dont know what we are going to get..its against the lions D, so its possible he absolutely lights it up.

this is dak looking at that d and that run game from the bench the last 4 games....

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and when has he struggled to get this offense to 20 PPG since 2016, umm NEVER... blow up maybe not but get to 17-20 , umm yes..

game 1 was an outlier and a horrible gameplan with new and weak WR group Moore goes for broke 42 passes 18 runs against one of the best Defenses in football game 1 when they were fresh, healthy ,and saw the 20121 gameplan for the 2nd time with less talent , add a new rookie LT, new starting LG, average C all play together for the first time and then abandons the run.

that loss is on MOORE , zeke was running well like last week and instead of bringing the run game hard and often, he gives zeke 2 carries in the 2nd half.:thumbdown::huh::facepalm:

nearly all of our struggkes against better defenses is on MOORE and the OL with penalties and issues blocking.

rush didnt experience that until the eagles and tuned into apumkin ..it is October..so hey Happy Halloweeny MOORE!!


The Dak led offense averaged 22 points/game in 2017 and 21 points/game in 2018.....

As for the TB game last season, Dallas scored 29 points, not 30....

Blame Moore when it has been shown Dak changes run plays to pass plays?

Everyone is to blame but Dak to some of you.
 

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Okay.....sorry that i mentioned it was zeke.:oops::(
No need to be sorry I was just presenting facts a positive run game helps any team. and yes perhaps my occassional anti-zeke bias snuck in there because I dont believe zeke is or has been the reason for the success weve had its been the Line. so I am sorry for not just agreeing with you.

See we can get along. Before you know it us cowboy fans can get together and sing kumbaya around the campfire. :laugh::laugh:DOUBT it but sounds good.
 

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you mean week one Kellen moore, Offensive line, penalties, wr not open, wr dropping passes, and game plans from Moore. and if the cant stop the run D shows up the cant run the ball offense? you mean that offense forcing 42 passes to 18 runs unbalanced mess? and is the Bucs d showing up>??

right, that was on Dak for sure.. whatever..
Yup, bad game all around. And in a vacuum, Dak was also terrible, and in a vacuum, if HE plays the way HE did week 1, we'll lose.
 

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There are hoards of people on here that say that a Dak-led offense will easily average 30 points though....

hmm, it sure is ironic how that narrative shifts once it comes to to prove it.
 

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sure..

we're 1-3 with Dak in the playoffs so far.

2017 NFC Divisional Vs the packers L
⁃ Dak went 24-38, 302 YDS, 3 TD, 1 INT. 103.2 rating
⁃ We tied the game at 31 with :35 seconds left and a one legged Rodgers beat the defense. We lost on a last second fg

2019 NFC Wildcard vs the Seahawks W
⁃ Dak went 22-33, 226 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT and 1 rushing TD 83.6 rating
⁃ zeke 26 carries 137yds 1 TD

2019 NFC Divisional vs Rams L
⁃ Dak - 20/32, 266yds, 1TD , 1 rushing TD 99.2 rating
⁃ Rushing dal - 50 rams 273
⁃ t.o.p. rams 36:13 - dal 23:47

and finally last yr

2021 NFC Wildcard Vs the 49ers L
⁃ Dak went 23-43, 254 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT 1 rushing TD -69.3 rating definitely not his best game but far from horrible
⁃ Zeke got 12 carries 13 yards - going into a game everyone knew we had to lean on the run. (I’m sure it was all dak hogging the spotlight right? )
⁃ Lamb caught 1 of 5 targets for 21yds
14 team penalties for 89 yards. (Again, all Dak right?)
⁃ Dak sacked 5 times. Garappolo - 0 (Dak has got to block better for himself I know)
⁃ 49ers rushed for 189 yds. (Perhaps if Dak wasn’t qb we wouldn’t have been gashed like this)
⁃ 49ers dominated t.o.p. 33:59 to our 26:01

You can say Dak sucks because we've only got 1 playoff win out of 4 but you're only convincing yourself when saying we're losing these games because of Dak and his subpar play.
This is the problem with looking back at the box score and judging solely from that.

In both playoff losses Dak got off to terrible starts and basically built those stats in comeback mode.

It would be wrong to blame Dak entirely for those losses. The defense certainly gets it's fair share of the blame if not the lion's share.

It would be just as wrong to not give Dak his fair share of the blame also. Both of those losses were close and Dak certainly missed some opportunities. Great opportunities.

You can say he didn't lose either of those games and I wouldn't disagree.
If you said he did everything he could but couldn't overcome the obstacles... I would disagree whole heartedly.

Taking advantage of just one of the missed opportunities could have made the difference in either of those games. He didn't lose them but he didn't win them either and they were there to be won.

I cut him more slack for last years loss even with the lessor stats because he was let down by some drops and bad penalties. Nevertheless, that game was also there to be won with just one more play on a missed opportunity.
 

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Yup, bad game all around. And in a vacuum, Dak was also terrible, and in a vacuum, if HE plays the way HE did week 1, we'll lose.
No vacuum,

Team game that was trash hard to make meal out of trash, so daks a chef that was working with dumpster leftovers game 1..get passed it, hater...

rush didn't respond to even half that against the eagles and at least we ran the ball played pretty well the 2nd half and Rush straight choked, rams game they gave rush everything he responds with 2 fumbles and 10-16 102 yards.

so what's your point, wait, rhetorical your hater flag shows out..we dont take your opinions as valid, zoners know who the haters are.
 

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Despite a solid job by Cooper Rush managing this team while Dak was gone, I don't believe Dak will just come in and light it up. Dak hasn’t had a chance to get into a groove with this offense like Rush has.

We have to show patience for a game or two (as long as we're winning) while Dak gets into a rhythm with this offense. This is not giving Dak any excuses or any passes, but I don't expect to see a solid outing by Dak until the first game after the bye because I still don't believe that hand is fully healed.

Do I believe Dak can play well enough to contribute to winning these next two games before the bye??? Absolutely. But do I think he's going to come in lighting it up?? Absolutely not. Again, let's not kid ourselves with expectations of some heroic performance by Dak after a long layoff recovering from the hand injury.

Oh yeah.... don't think for a minute that opposing defenses aren't going to take the opportunity to swipe at Dak's hand to see how well it holds up, so Rush need to stay ready!!
Reasonable view and I agree. However he’ll be in the groove by 2nd game
 

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There are hoards of people on here that say that a Dak-led offense will easily average 30 points though....

hmm, it sure is ironic how that narrative shifts once it comes to to prove it.
NO ONE said that, they said hes capable of doing it given the defense , STs, gameplans, and Turnover margins are humming. there are are moments when you need that daks proven hes done it. many times

2020 was averaging what 32PPG before he broke his ankle, last year averaged what #1 scoring offense in the league.

rush has us bottom 10, dak has us top 10 his entire career, whats there to Prove?, no expectations of 30 every outing but hes shown he can do that many times..didnt he drop a 40 and 50 Burger the last month of last year, how about over 30, 3 straight games against the eagles, the margin of victory in his 6-0 beating of the east had to be over 30 a game.. go look ..?? show me where Rush could ever approach that??
 

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No vacuum,

Team game that was trash hard to make meal out of trash, so daks a chef that was working with dumpster leftovers game 1..get passed it, hater...

rush didn't respond to even half that against the eagles and at least we ran the ball played pretty well the 2nd half and Rush straight choked, rams game they gave rush everything he responds with 2 fumbles and 10-16 102 yards.

so what's your point, wait, rhetorical your hater flag shows out..we dont take your opinions as valid, zoners know who the haters are.
Yawn. What is it with you guys and the personal attacks and name calling simply because not everyone shares your view on Dak? I'm all for talking football but all you guys want to do is screech HATER! and call everyone stupid that disagrees with you. Grow up.
 
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