I don't believe Dak will just come in and light it up

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Yawn. What is it with you guys and the personal attacks and name calling simply because not everyone shares your view on Dak? I'm all for talking football but all you guys want to do is screech HATER! and call everyone stupid that disagrees with you. Grow up.
those are facts,

you are why the word hater was used in sports, the very definition is your responses,

now go crawl back in your hole. Troll
 

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NO ONE said that, they said hes capable of doing it given the defense , STs, gameplans, and Turnover margins are humming. there are are moments when you need that daks proven hes done it. many times

2020 was averaging what 32PPG before he broke his ankle, last year averaged what #1 scoring offense in the league.

rush has us bottom 10, dak has us top 10 his entire career, whats there to Prove?, no expectations of 30 every outing but hes shown he can do that many times..didnt he drop a 40 and 50 Burger the last month of last year, how about over 30, 3 straight games against the eagles, the margin of victory in his 6-0 beating of the east had to be over 30 a game.. go look ..?? show me where Rush could ever approach that??


2-3 in those 5 games and some of the interesting aspects of those games:

vs. ATL Dallas losing 29-10 at the half

vs. SEA Dallas was losing 30-15 early in the 4th

vs. CLE Dallas was losing 41-14 to start the 4th

So what difference does 30/ppg with Dak that you referenced mean when he wasn't doing anything for half to three quarters of a game? Oh, and using the 2nd game against Philly when the Eagles played 3rd stringers is a reach move. If you take out that game and the game against WASH, in Dak's last 6 games played (2021-2022) he led Dallas to an average of 19.5 points/game.....so does that mean Dak is as bad as Rush in terms of leading the Dallas offense as you and others claim?

Those are facts.
 

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I don't insult the folks who disagree with me... i only insult the folks who cheer for the downfall of their own players..... so I if you're offended, you're apparently one of the ones who cheer against their own players.

Apparently you clearly didn't read what i said, so I'll repeat it for you.... I DONT INSULT PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME.

I-ONLY-INSULT-THOSE-WHO-CHEER-FOR-THE-DOWNFALL-OF-THEIR-OWN-PLAYERS. Did you get that??? Good...

As far as your leading question.... im sure you can tell me how many generations it took to produce you. Enjoy your day son.
You deflect well, and to repeat you do insult folks, your small mind just doesn’t grasp it.
 

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There are hoards of people on here that say that a Dak-led offense will easily average 30 points though....

hmm, it sure is ironic how that narrative shifts once it comes to to prove it.
I mean really dude? I was in all of those threads and what i got from is that the THREAT that dak presents and the superior skillset as compared to Rush presents a different scenario that defenses have to be ready for (Im paraphrasing a bit). Dak until the New england game had this offense humming and had the #1 offense last year. Noodle arm had us 26th. I didnt see one person put exact numbers except the resident troll but I could have missed them. I saw general statements such as Dak would have won Philly game or the LA and Cincy game wouldnt have been that close.
 

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This is the problem with looking back at the box score and judging solely from that.

In both playoff losses Dak got off to terrible starts and basically built those stats in comeback mode.

It would be wrong to blame Dak entirely for those losses. The defense certainly gets it's fair share of the blame if not the lion's share.

It would be just as wrong to not give Dak his fair share of the blame also. Both of those losses were close and Dak certainly missed some opportunities. Great opportunities.

You can say he didn't lose either of those games and I wouldn't disagree.
If you said he did everything he could but couldn't overcome the obstacles... I would disagree whole heartedly.

Taking advantage of just one of the missed opportunities could have made the difference in either of those games. He didn't lose them but he didn't win them either and they were there to be won.

I cut him more slack for last years loss even with the lessor stats because he was let down by some drops and bad penalties. Nevertheless, that game was also there to be won with just one more play on a missed opportunity.
Totally agree. Stats are a reflection of what happened not what will happen. And they are misleading. The team did have a few opportunities that they missed on but that was also a group effort as everything else is. It's always an accumulation of little things that lead to a win or loss. Everyone's accountable.
 

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2-3 in those 5 games and some of the interesting aspects of those games:

vs. ATL Dallas losing 29-10 at the half

vs. SEA Dallas was losing 30-15 early in the 4th

vs. CLE Dallas was losing 41-14 to start the 4th

So what difference does 30/ppg with Dak that you referenced mean when he wasn't doing anything for half to three quarters of a game? Oh, and using the 2nd game against Philly when the Eagles played 3rd stringers is a reach move. If you take out that game and the game against WASH, in Dak's last 6 games played (2021-2022) he led Dallas to an average of 19.5 points/game.....so does that mean Dak is as bad as Rush in terms of leading the Dallas offense as you and others claim?

Those are facts.
Dak haters like you love to cherry pick stats.
 

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End. The. False. Narrative.


Its amazing and quite sad that you really believe that KM called the same offensive gamelan for Dak that he called for Rush. You run from facts and questions, but I do have respect for your football IQ. Thats why it hurts me to see that you really believe Dak and Rush are given the same play calling structure. Apparently myself and others see different......








Oh yeah, here's another fun fact for ya my guy as far as play calling.....

Under Center Dak 13% Rush 26%

Shotgun Dak 87% Rush 74%

Play Action Dak 16% Rush 27%

Max Protection 7% Rush 14%


Do you want me to post up the running attempts called when Dak is in the game vs the run attempts called while Rush is in the game??? Are you saying that our offense rush the ball equally and balanced when Dak is in there as when Rush is in there???


The only false narrative is the this offense is ran the same for both quarterbacks.
 

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I mean really dude? I was in all of those threads and what i got from is that the THREAT that dak presents and the superior skillset as compared to Rush presents a different scenario that defenses have to be ready for (Im paraphrasing a bit). Dak until the New england game had this offense humming and had the #1 offense last year. Noodle arm had us 26th. I dont I seen one person put exact numbers except the resident troll but I could have missed them. I saw general statements such as Dak would have won Philly game or the LA and Cicny game wouldnt have been that close.

Dak will make the offense more effecient as the route tree opens up more and so does the RPO/QB rollout-run..its really not a hard concept, they know it, they just need to set mythical parameters on something they can complain about when he plays. We have been running a ball control offense minus QB mobility and any out routes, those are now open. We had to live off of seam routes and crosses with no real run threat from the QB. Dak throws the ball better and is more mobile, its really not hard to figure this stuff out.
 

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You deflect well, and to repeat you do insult folks, your small mind just doesn’t grasp it.


Work on that reading comprehension lil guy. I already stated what I typed, its not deflection, you just can't read and comprehend and/or your feelings are hurt because you single handedly exposed yourself as one of those weak ones who cheer against their own players.... do better son.

Stop cheering against your own players and you'll have no reason to feel insulted.
 

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NO ONE said that, they said hes capable of doing it given the defense , STs, gameplans, and Turnover margins are humming. there are are moments when you need that daks proven hes done it. many times

2020 was averaging what 32PPG before he broke his ankle, last year averaged what #1 scoring offense in the league.

rush has us bottom 10, dak has us top 10 his entire career, whats there to Prove?, no expectations of 30 every outing but hes shown he can do that many times..didnt he drop a 40 and 50 Burger the last month of last year, how about over 30, 3 straight games against the eagles, the margin of victory in his 6-0 beating of the east had to be over 30 a game.. go look ..?? show me where Rush could ever approach that??
why are you blatantly lying? I personally had exchanges with 3 different individuals who said Dak would come back and easily average 30 ppg.

So don't tell me that "NO ONE said that".

You guys are just building up excuses for Dak.
 

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Yawn. What is it with you guys and the personal attacks and name calling simply because not everyone shares your view on Dak? I'm all for talking football but all you guys want to do is screech HATER! and call everyone stupid that disagrees with you. Grow up.
It's all they know how to do, brother.

They get in their feelings that other fans dare not worship their favorite QB, and resort to name calling and character bashing.

It's as predictable as Dak's next overthrow.
 

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I mean really dude? I was in all of those threads and what i got from is that the THREAT that dak presents and the superior skillset as compared to Rush presents a different scenario that defenses have to be ready for (Im paraphrasing a bit). Dak until the New england game had this offense humming and had the #1 offense last year. Noodle arm had us 26th. I didnt see one person put exact numbers except the resident troll but I could have missed them. I saw general statements such as Dak would have won Philly game or the LA and Cincy game wouldnt have been that close.
I can't help that you don't remember the exchanges I had with multiple people who told me Dak will come back and easily get us over the 30ppg threshold. Take your hurt feelings elsewhere.
 

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I don't believe anybody is nervous.... I believe the intelligent people with higher football IQs understand what its like to be a human being and having to get back into a rhythm.

Its only the low IQ people who ignore what real human beings go through and are drooling at the mouth for the first mistake made by an individual that has sat out for weeks to say "SEE.... SEE.... You know... the typical double standard mouth breathers like the few who claimed Rush was better than other quarterbacks on our team.... until it was Rush who single-handedly loss the game for us with 3 interceptions, realizing that a 120 yard passing outing isn't going to beat the very good teams.

They were angry that their propaganda blew up in their faces after the Eagles game.

These are the same mouth breathers who are the ones who will set Mahomes level benchmarks for a Dak who's missed over a month's worth of action.

Again... intelligent people know it takes repetition to get back to your best. Low IQ people will point fingers if Dak doesn't put up 500 yards with 6TD passes in his first game back from injury, win or lose.

True.
 

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I can't help that you don't remember the exchanges I had with multiple people who told me Dak will come back and easily get us over the 30ppg threshold. Take your hurt feelings elsewhere.


What would your parameters for "Making the offense better" look like for Dak? Maybe middle ground has a place. Like i have said Dak is no Mahomes but he is better than Rush and opens up more routes for the offense that Rush just couldnt throw and a Run threat that Rush just couldn't be...So to you what does Dak doing what you expect him to do in this ball control offense look like?
 

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I'll believe it when I see it done consistently.

I don't believe Dak's ego, right now, would allow him to only pass the ball only 16 times, even if it works and we win by 2 TDs like we did with Cooper Rush against the Rams.


Cooper Rush did a great job filling in. But I can't remember.... tell me wh
Remember how he came out throwing the ball all over the place after missing 3/4's of the previous season and recovering from a big injury?

I'm not buying the rust factor. He will not be throwing to anyone that has not thrown to before, except the TE's. He is not going to see anything different from defenses that he hasn't seen before.

If the hand injury is causing him problems he shouldn't be out there. That should have been determined in practice.

No excuses.


So let me get this straight.... when other athletes in all other sports are coming back off of injury and they feel they have to shake the rust off and get back to LIVE GAME SPEED.... its legit for them.

But when Dak has to shake the rust off and get back to game speed after only playing at GAME SPEED one time in nine months.... its an excuse???? Being human doesn't apply to ONLY Dak huh..... LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

I thank you and appreciate you so much for being the PRIME example of what hypocrisy and double standard looks like. You're the best my guy!!
 

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I can't help that you don't remember the exchanges I had with multiple people who told me Dak will come back and easily get us over the 30ppg threshold. Take your hurt feelings elsewhere.
You got the wrong dude my feeling are far from hurt . however i did see 35 pt claim in the Mcarthy thread after I qouted you but you werent in that thread perhaps you can enlighten me
 
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It's all they know how to do, brother.

They get in their feelings that other fans dare not worship their favorite QB, and resort to name calling and character bashing.

It's as predictable as Dak's next overthrow.


You sound pretty intelligent my friend. Can you give us a breakdown on why so many fans of the Cowboys root and cheer against Dak as a member of the Dallas Cowboys?? Can you explain why a fan of the Dallas Cowboys look forward to Dak having a bad game.... and then when he has good games, they don't give him credit, they actually downplay it???

Why would fans want to see their own quarterback do bad when it affects the overall success of the team they claim to love???

Thanks in advance my friend.
 
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