I don't believe Dak will just come in and light it up

[Ken]

His Wonderlic score of 25 has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to read and react to defenses as well as having superior football acumen.

Jalen hurts scored a 21 and his running QB style was just fine

His wonderlic isn't even bad. 25 is above average.

Leftwhich scored a 25 and is an OC.

Farve and Brunnell had 22's.
Deshaun Watson and Derrick Carr scored 20.
Jim Kelly 15
Steve McNair 15
Marino a 16
Hurts, according to my source, 18.

I hope they have more than a dang Wonderlic to base this ridiculousness on. It is a freaking multiple-choice test. People can get lucky on a few guesses score a 30.

 

[jwooten15]

What would your parameters for "Making the offense better" look like for Dak? Maybe middle ground has a place. Like i have said Dak is no Mahomes but he is better than Rush and opens up more routes for the offense that Rush just couldnt throw and a Run threat that Rush just couldn't be...So to you what does Dak doing what you expect him to do in this ball control offense look like?

Oh, absolutely! Thank you for bringing reason to this thread; it's not a quality seen too often around here.

Dak is no Mahomes, but he's absolutely better than Rush, you're right. I have no doubt that Dak, on the whole, makes this team more balanced and dangerous in the long term.

I think Dak will come back and do what he typically does.. light up bad teams and look great during certain stretches, but he'll also resort to old habits against quality teams and still won't be able to process zone defenses.

As an aside: I think this team could be really hard to beat if McCarthy/Jones force Moore and Dak to tone back the "gunslinger/field general" stuff. For Dak to be a glorified bus driver again.

If that happens, I truly believe the Cowboys could make noise. Not against sub-.500 teams, but in the playoffs as well.

 

[nobody]

You’re playing semantics Nobody. The only they you said was Moore sucks and Dak is not innocent. What about the defense not stopping the run? What about the offense not able to run the ball? No, you said it was the QB’s fault.

Dude, you're once again reading things into what I said when I didn't say it. I wasn't talking about wins or losses or reasons for not going to the SB. I was specifically talking about the offense abandoning the run. That's all. The defense has nothing to do with that. Moore is the primary culprit in that. Dak's not innocent of that though. He's partially to blame too.

If you are the QB and you are given two options each play and you more often than not check out of the run play, then yes, you are partially at fault. If you are given two passing plays and the coordinator is not giving you run plays, then as the QB you need to talk to the OC off the field and tell him to knock that off...if he doesn't you go above his head. So no, Dak's not innocent of them abandoning the run. The defense has nothing to do with that. You were changing what I was saying and twisting it that I was saying it's all on the QB win or lose and I never once stated that.

So how about you argue what's stated rather than what you want to believe I insinuating when what I was was nowhere close to that?

 

[Jstopper]

Would you choose Rodgers, Allen, or Dak to be the QB in Dallas right now?

Rodgers is ancient so not him. Dak and Allen have accomplished the same amount (0 rings) in this league so either of them is fine idc.

 

[jwooten15]

You sound pretty intelligent my friend. Can you give us a breakdown on why so many fans of the Cowboys root and cheer against Dak as a member of the Dallas Cowboys?? Can you explain why a fan of the Dallas Cowboys look forward to Dak having a bad game.... and then when he has good games, they don't give him credit, they actually downplay it???

Why would fans want to see their own quarterback do bad when it affects the overall success of the team they claim to love???

Thanks in advance my friend.

Not sure if you're being satirical or genuine in your compliment, but I'll give my take on it.

I believe Dak, like the majority of Cowboys' QBs before him, is very polarizing amongst fans.

And, naturally, those two segments of fans will clash and are prone to going overboard in their arguments because of the annoyance they feel by the person they're arguing with.

It all boils down to people being too in their feelings and general pettiness. Logic and reason go out the window and they'll say things about Dak that they don't objectively believe, just for the sake of defending their point of argument.

If you want my honest opinion, I'd bet 99% percent of this board probably agrees on what type of QB Dak is.

Nobody here really wants Dak to perform badly. For as dysfunctional as we are, we all want the Cowboys to win.

 

[USArmyVet]

Dak haters like you love to cherry pick stats.

With all due respect but given your age I would expect something more mature than the use of the term 'hater' when someone dares criticize your man crush.

 

[Acceptablename]

Yawn. What is it with you guys and the personal attacks and name calling simply because not everyone shares your view on Dak? I'm all for talking football but all you guys want to do is screech HATER! and call everyone stupid that disagrees with you. Grow up.

We’re angry and not goin take it anymore

 

[jwooten15]

You got the wrong dude my feeling are far from hurt . however i did see 35 pt claim in the Mcarthy thread after I qouted you but you werent in that thread perhaps you can enlighten me

Shoot, I can barely remember 10 mins ago at this point. There's no way I'd be able to find the specific thread I had those exchanges in.

But, like every politician says.... you can just trust that I'm telling the truth

 

[USArmyVet]

Rodgers is ancient so not him. Dak and Allen have accomplished the same amount (0 rings) in this league so either of them is fine idc.

If you can honestly say you would choose Dak over Allen then I simply can't take anything you say seriously.

 

[USArmyVet]

His wonderlic isn't even bad. 25 is above average.

Leftwhich scored a 25 and is an OC.

Farve and Brunnell had 22's.
Deshaun Watson and Derrick Carr scored 20.
Jim Kelly 15
Steve McNair 15
Marino a 16
Hurts, according to my source, 18.

I hope they have more than a dang Wonderlic to base this ridiculousness on. It is a freaking multiple-choice test. People can get lucky on a few guesses score a 30.

Wonderlic testing should be taken with a grain of salt as it is a timed test so if you do not answer all the questions your overall score is negatively impacted.

 

[Jstopper]

If you can honestly say you would choose Dak over Allen then I simply can't take anything you say seriously.

I just need to know does good stats with 0 rings/SB appearances mean anything? Are they empty calories? Yes or no?

 

[Ken]

I just need to know does good stats with 0 rings/SB appearances mean anything? Are they empty calories? Yes or no?

I don't know....sometimes bad luck happens, sometimes your defense can't stop the run, sometimes the coaching staff is outcoached.

It is the ultimate team game for a reason. Even the best qbs in the league can't do it with a bunch of other things lagging.

 

[Shane612]

Bromance with Dak?? Nah, I don't rock like that, but based off of your sensitive response, I can tell thats a comfortable place in life for you and thats fine, much respect to you.

When i brought up injuries to boxers.... im not talking about concussions, Im talking about torn tendons, shoulder injuries, ACL injuries, and things like that. Now speaking of concussions to boxers..... why is it when boxers suffer a serious knockout in a match, they're NEXT match is against a lesser opponent???

And again, i don't care how many NBA games there are.... WHY DO players coming off of injuries come back and play against the LESSER competition opposed to coming back against the top teams??? Just answer the damn questions and leave all the "bromance" BS out of it.

Oh yeah, last thing..... shiw me where I said Dak sat out of an important game. I believe I said the COACHES KEPT HIM OUT.

Last thing.... show me where I said Dak is a "Super Star" quarterback. See the one thing about "your kind" that hate on your own players.... I noticed its a MUST that you add lies in there to try and support your lil agendas. You don't have to lie to be heard son.

Okay fine....whatever.
But why go out of your way to post a long passionate reasons/excuses why Dak shouldn't be expected to "light it up" the next few games?
Seem a little obsessive, daddy.

 

[Ranched]

I don't know....sometimes bad luck happens, sometimes your defense can't stop the run, sometimes the coaching staff is outcoached.

It is the ultimate team game for a reason. Even the best qbs in the league can't do it with a bunch of other things lagging.

This is absolutely the best shortest post that is spot on.

With all due respect but given your age I would expect something more mature than the use of the term 'hater' when someone dares criticize your man crush.

Lol. You loathe when folks use that word don't you. It's a universal word on the Zone. Has nothing to do w/maturity or ones age.

 

[Jstopper]

I don't know....sometimes bad luck happens, sometimes your defense can't stop the run, sometimes the coaching staff is outcoached.

It is the ultimate team game for a reason. Even the best qbs in the league can't do it with a bunch of other things lagging.

Hmm interesting thats not what I hear around these parts. Running game, defense, coaching doesn't matter. Its all on Dak, if we lose its cuz Dak is a loser who can't get it done. I just was curious if that standard applied to everyone else is all.

 

[GINeric]

Okay fine....whatever.
But why go out of your way to post a long passionate reasons/excuses why Dak shouldn't be expected to "light it up" the next few games?
Seem a little obsessive, daddy.

All i said was we have to tamper our expectations of what Dak will be able to in his second game within 9 months. Thats not passionate, thats what's called the truth.

Maybe you can answer this question.... name one quarterback in history besides Dak who's expected to step in and not miss a beat and show no rust, after missing a month of football and having played 2 games within 9 months??? We know a few of you call this excuses only for Dak, but what other quarterback had those expectations to overcome the human side of setbacks and step right in like they never left under the same inactivity???

While you think of a spin to put on that question, let me telling you what's really obsessive..... cheering against your own players. If you love a team what is the obsession with cheering against your own players to succeed for the good of the team???

I noticed none of you have answered that question either.....

 

[Rockport]

Dude, you're once again reading things into what I said when I didn't say it. I wasn't talking about wins or losses or reasons for not going to the SB. I was specifically talking about the offense abandoning the run. That's all. The defense has nothing to do with that. Moore is the primary culprit in that. Dak's not innocent of that though. He's partially to blame too.

If you are the QB and you are given two options each play and you more often than not check out of the run play, then yes, you are partially at fault. If you are given two passing plays and the coordinator is not giving you run plays, then as the QB you need to talk to the OC off the field and tell him to knock that off...if he doesn't you go above his head. So no, Dak's not innocent of them abandoning the run. The defense has nothing to do with that. You were changing what I was saying and twisting it that I was saying it's all on the QB win or lose and I never once stated that.

So how about you argue what's stated rather than what you want to believe I insinuating when what I was was nowhere close to that?

Who says he “more often than not checks out to the pass”?

 

[starfan1]

Shoot, I can barely remember 10 mins ago at this point. There's no way I'd be able to find the specific thread I had those exchanges in.

But, like every politician says.... you can just trust that I'm telling the truth

I can appreciate that . I trust all of them lol

 

[Shane612]

All i said was we have to tamper our expectations of what Dak will be able to in his second game within 9 months. Thats not passionate, thats what's called the truth.

Maybe you can answer this question.... name one quarterback in history besides Dak who's expected to step in and not miss a beat and show no rust, after missing a month of football and having played 2 games within 9 months??? We know a few of you call this excuses only for Dak, but what other quarterback had those expectations to overcome the human side of setbacks and step right in like they never left under the same inactivity???

While you think of a spin to put on that question, let me telling you what's really obsessive..... cheering against your own players. If you love a team what is the obsession with cheering against your own players to succeed for the good of the team???

I noticed none of you have answered that question either.....

What makes you say I'm cheering against anyone?
I hope they win, with or without Dak.
I just think it's funny how some make Dak out to be something he's not.

 

[GINeric]

Not sure if you're being satirical or genuine in your compliment, but I'll give my take on it.

I believe Dak, like the majority of Cowboys' QBs before him, is very polarizing amongst fans.

And, naturally, those two segments of fans will clash and are prone to going overboard in their arguments because of the annoyance they feel by the person they're arguing with.

It all boils down to people being too in their feelings and general pettiness. Logic and reason go out the window and they'll say things about Dak that they don't objectively believe, just for the sake of defending their point of argument.

If you want my honest opinion, I'd bet 99% percent of this board probably agrees on what type of QB Dak is.

Nobody here really wants Dak to perform badly. For as dysfunctional as we are, we all want the Cowboys to win.

No i wasn't being sarcastic, Ive seen you post some intelligent replies.

Thats why i asked your breakdown on why people would cheer against their own players. Usually people with that "sabotage" mindset aren't too successful in their real everyday lives. I know this because it takes a certain mindset to succeed.

Some people don't buy into teamwork, but rather fail in individualism. There are a few here with that weaker mentality.

Let me make this clear for the reading comprehension challenged. People who don't agree with me or my views on Dak are not the people im referencing here.

Im only talking about the weak mouth breathers with low IQs who actually cheer against their own players on a team they claim to love. Now before anybody jump to these types of fan's, defense.... Please tell me why anyone who cheer for the failure or downfall of your own players is defensible on the Dallas Cowboys board.

Make it make sense....