I don't think Dallas can lose Murray

[JoeKing]

All the mentioned tangibles don't outweigh the rumored price tag it may cost to keep him. I don't see the Cowboys organization breaking the bank for DeMarco.

 

[John813]

He is not old either, Lynch, Foster Charles are all older than him and still going strong. He is not going to drop in a year or 2.

No kidding. Plenty of backs have kept their level of play at a high level past the "old" age of 26. Ole Ricky was a beast past 26, and even when he came back from his world tour.

yea, there's a few like Chris Johnson who faded fast, but I have to wonder if it was due to the money for him. Got paid, stopped busting his ***, etc.. Or some had severe injuries like an ACL tear.

 

[Dale]

It shows how much attention other teams are putting on him and in doing so it opens up big passing lanes for Dallas to attack.

I agree. I also think there's something to his physical style wearing teams down. Whether he's averaging 2.8 yards or 5.0 yards per carry, he's making a positive impact for us by reliably carrying the ball 24 times a game.

 

[Dale]

One other thing. Any player who is willing to gut it out with a broken hand like he did, when all the pundits say it can't be done or isn't worth the risk, is a guy I want on my team.

He's not Emmitt, but he's proving to be a key part of our team's heart and soul like Emmitt was.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree. I also think there's something to his physical style wearing teams down. Whether he's averaging 2.8 yards or 5.0 yards per carry, he's making a positive impact for us by reliably carrying the ball 24 times a game.

If a team is determined to shut the run down and will commit so many up to the line to stop the run they can do it. You have more defenders than blockers but then you expose yourself in the secondary. When team do not respect the run they will not load up and Murray and the OL bring that to the table. Murray yards after contact lead all RB's, he has more runs over 40 yards than all RB this year.

 

[Doomsday101]

I want Murray back but I do think there is a limit to what Dallas can do. I think he does deserve top 5 RB money, I don't think that is out of line or undoable. Just based on some recent comments, Jerry will put the tag on Murray if he is able to get a deal worked out with Dez.

 

[Plankton]

I would have no problem bringing Murray back on a short term deal. Even franchising him (Peterson's contract comes off the top 5 salaries, meaning the number will go down) I would be OK with. No long term deal though.

 

[xwalker]

Mid-season I thought Dallas could just plug-n-play most RB's and have success. Shame on me for being simple minded about it. The trickle down effect of Murray style and production is sole reason we are talking about a healthy, upright Tony Romo late in Dec. I almost feel Dallas needs to bite the bullet on Dez and sign long term deal and use franchise tag on Murray. Franchise tag on Murray would be cheaper than one placed on Dez. Just wish Dez would be reasonable here because Dallas has something here. Below are attributes I think Murray brings. If you know of another FA running back to brings this to table...please share.

What makes Murray special:
* He is young (26 years old)
* He is big (6' 218 lbs)
* He plays hurt (starts a game 6 days removed from surgery)
* He is punishing runner (this sets tone for entire team....does Randle give you that sense?)
* He is good at picking up blitz (this might be his best trait when tied to Romo back situation)
* He has good vision with adequate speed

The biggest issue is not how good he is or isn't, the issue is whether he will be on the decline after getting overused this season. The history of RBs that have been overused is not good in following seasons.

 

[Doomsday101]

I would have no problem bringing Murray back on a short term deal. Even franchising him (Peterson's contract comes off the top 5 salaries, meaning the number will go down) I would be OK with. No long term deal though.

I agree depending on what you think is long term. I think a 4 year deal is what he will get.

 

[Plankton]

I agree depending on what you think is long term. I think a 4 year deal is what he will get.

For me, four years is long term. I wouldn't sign him to more than a 3 year deal.

 

[Doomsday101]

The biggest issue is not how good he is or isn't, the issue is whether he will be on the decline after getting overused this season. The history of RBs that have been overused is not good in following seasons.

Not all those situations were the same where the amount runs was the factor. Players are off for 6 months and given the work ethic and conditioning Murray does I don't see him falling off any time soon

 

[Zimmy Lives]

The biggest issue is not how good he is or isn't, the issue is whether he will be on the decline after getting overused this season. The history of RBs that have been overused is not good in following seasons.

Not to mention that the average NFL football player begins a decline -- sometimes dramatic -- in ability after the age of 27. There are always exceptions but Murray is at his peak in performance and age so a leveling off or decline should be anticipated. I'm all for keeping him; the contract would have to be around four years and front loaded.

 

[xwalker]

Not all those situations were the same where the amount runs was the factor. Players are off for 6 months and given the work ethic and conditioning Murray does I don't see him falling off any time soon

No 2 players are the exact same situation, but being overused is a risk for RBs based on history.

 

[Bluefin]

Jerry will put the tag on Murray if he is able to get a deal worked out with Dez.

The RB franchise tag was estimated to be $10.85M off a projected $142M 2015 salary cap.

That isn't going to happen.

Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · Dec 22
“@daniellazarovic: @BryanBroaddus has jo randle showed you that cowboys can relay on him nxt yr if murray doesnt sign?” GM thinks so

 

[Doomsday101]

No 2 players are the exact same situation, but being overused is a risk for RBs based on history.

But in many of the cases of the players who had 400 carries their overall situations where not the same it was not just about the carries. Peterson is a great RB I highly doubt he will ever reach 2000 yards again. Emmitt set a record but did not reach that number again but yet still was very productive. This season is not going to kill Murray he is not going to fall apart because of this 1 season. It kills me people will holler Peterson as if age and carries do not apply to him well they do. Murray is still fairly young and in great condition.

 

[Doomsday101]

The RB franchise tag was estimated to be $10.85M off a projected $142M 2015 salary cap.

That isn't going to happen.

In your opinion you nor I know what is going to happen. I said what Jones had talked about you can dispute that with him. The ideal of giving Murray 4 to 5 mill a year when other top backs make more is silly. Why not tell Dez we are not going to pay you more than 10 mill because we think that is high? You pay because they produce and are key figures on this team and a big reason we are where we are today. Some may want to go backwards I don't

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

In your opinion you nor I know what is going to happen. I said what Jones had talked about you can dispute that with him. The ideal of giving Murray 4 to 5 mill a year when other top backs make more is silly. Why not tell Dez we are not going to pay you more than 10 mill because we think that is high? You pay because they produce and are key figures on this team and a big reason we are where we are today. Some may want to go backwards I don't

Some on here have already said that. I don't get it. Murray's been one of the big reasons the Cowboys are where they are. Romo, Murray and Dez are our new triplets and some want to break it up before we win anything.

 

[TwoDeep3]

So, all of you who think just any RB will do, or this team can find a stud in the draft, I have a question.

How did you like it when Romo had to do it all by himself?

You guys whine over money and toss out these ridiculous comments where just anyone is plug-n-play. Murray is different and his league leading stats prove it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Some on here have already said that. I don't get it. Murray's been one of the big reasons the Cowboys are where they are. Romo, Murray and Dez are our new triplets and some want to break it up before we win anything.

I agree, they will jump at AP as if the laws of physics do not apply to him, I don't want a 30 year old back I don't give a crap who the RB is, We have a top NFL RB his presences on the field and off the field has been great, the chemistry he brings to the team is also very big and myself I don't want to go backwards, there are college RB who people will claim are so great yet not all great college RB pan out in the NFL. I'm sure Oakland expect a lot more from Darren McFadden, the experts raved about him but things did not turn out exactly that way.

I think some look at the position as they say a dime a dozen, newsbreak JAGS at all position are a dime a dozen, top quality players in the NFL are not a dime a dozen

 

[Bluefin]

Carries shouldn't be an issue with DeMarco Murray.

Prior to this season, the running back only had two seasons in college and the NFL where he eclipsed 200 carries.

This is the first time Murray's ever had over 300 carries.

But I don't see him returning unless the open market fails to offer up crazy money, which could keep Dallas in play, and the franchise tag isn't used on Dez Bryant, freeing up cap space.

I've mentioned that what Doug Free wants is very important, does he want to get paid or is staying here more important at this point in his career?

The same goes with Murray.

He deserves to go get his money, but how important is the star to him?