I don't understand how anyone could scam people

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There are some sickos whose only "job" it is to dream up scams the trick people out of money. The elderly are usually the easiest target. These goons will call up an old person or email them and tell some bogus story like they're from the IRS and they owe taxes or they'll say they've won or inherited some money. Or some really rotten people pretend to be a prospective romantic partner, preying on someone's loneliness. If you duckduckgo "online scams" or "phone scams," you'll find a huge list of the various ripoffs that have worked.

I cannot imagine doing this to anyone, especially to an elderly person. Sometimes an elderly person has their life savings, something like 500K or whatever, all the money they've ever managed to save in their whole life, and that they are going to depend on to be able to live, and they have the whole thing ripped off.

I think I could probably dream up some bogus scam that might work, but I CANNOT EVEN FATHOM doing that to someone. If somehow I had had a moral failing to do such a thing, my conscious would murder me day after day. That's why I don't get how anyone could actually do that crap. Don't they have a kind of Christmas Carol moment where their ghosts come back to haunt them and make their conscious miserable for doing something like that? I mean what the [bleep]?
 

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Scammers are pieces of ****. Any way they can part you from your hard earned money, they will.

I had an email from PayPal, stating that my account was locked due to questionable logins or something, and when I clicked on the link it brought me to site that looked legit, but they wanted my SSN or some type of private information, so I decided to just go to their home site that I had from prior emails, and it said nothing about that. I decided it was probably a scam and deleted it, and I haven't had any problem using PayPal, so it must have been.
 

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Scammers are pieces of ****. Any way they can part you from your hard earned money, they will.

I had an email from PayPal, stating that my account was locked due to questionable logins or something, and when I clicked on the link it brought me to site that looked legit, but they wanted my SSN or some type of private information, so I decided to just go to their home site that I had from prior emails, and it said nothing about that. I decided it was probably a scam and deleted it, and I haven't had any problem using PayPal, so it must have been.
That is a cautionary tale. My advice is always consider any legitimate business or government agency will contact you with either an official letter or verify themselves by phone call.

It is a small world. I got one of those PayPal emails too. Deleted it as soon as I finished reading it.

One tip I use before clicking on a link is to hover a cursor over it to check out the underlying link's text. You can do something similar with a cellphone (or at least on an iPhone) by pressing and not releasing your finger on a link. The underlying link's text should appear in a popup without it activating the link itself.
 

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Scammers are pieces of ****. Any way they can part you from your hard earned money, they will.

I had an email from PayPal, stating that my account was locked due to questionable logins or something, and when I clicked on the link it brought me to site that looked legit, but they wanted my SSN or some type of private information, so I decided to just go to their home site that I had from prior emails, and it said nothing about that. I decided it was probably a scam and deleted it, and I haven't had any problem using PayPal, so it must have been.
If I get any EMail concerning my personal stuff, I immediately call that company from the info that I already have.
 

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Basically, there are bad people in this world. Unfortunately, our society at present has this flawed idea that they can be reformed, or that if you treat them politely they'll go away.
 

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Basically, there are bad people in this world. Unfortunately, our society at present has this flawed idea that they can be reformed, or that if you treat them politely they'll go away.
Shhh, everyone just ignore kskboys.
 

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Basically, there are bad people in this world. Unfortunately, our society at present has this flawed idea that they can be reformed, or that if you treat them politely they'll go away.

I think anyone that would treat someone like that should be executed by being thrown into a spike-lined pit. And if their scam victim was an elderly person, the scammer ought to be smeared with hamburger meat and then thrown into a pit full of hungry crocodiles. I don't understand how someone could behave that rotten and have no conscious. They're human trash.
 

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Scammers are pieces of ****. Any way they can part you from your hard earned money, they will.

I had an email from PayPal, stating that my account was locked due to questionable logins or something, and when I clicked on the link it brought me to site that looked legit, but they wanted my SSN or some type of private information, so I decided to just go to their home site that I had from prior emails, and it said nothing about that. I decided it was probably a scam and deleted it, and I haven't had any problem using PayPal, so it must have been.
I got one of those from PayPal this weekend. I deleted it to avoid any possible virus that may be embedded in it.

Come on Reverend, we're going back in time to stop this after a visit to the 90s to stop Jerry from firing Jimmy. Get your stun gun, cheap booze and some rope.
 

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Few months ago i was getting constant emails from someone pretending to be Apple. Those stopped and just recently i got a text saying my bank info needed attention claiming someone charged my accounts and that fraud took place so i called the numbers for the bank i already had on file and they said nothing was wrong and the text were from people fishing for info. A week ago i got a email claiming my Amazon account was blocked and needed attention, so i went and logged in and nothing was blocked. A few days ago i got another email saying i had activity at sams club i just erased it because i have never bought anything from sams club and never made any kind of account there.

If I get any EMail concerning my personal stuff, I immediately call that company from the info that I already have.
I agree with this method.
 

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I think anyone that would treat someone like that should be executed by being thrown into a spike-lined pit. And if their scam victim was an elderly person, the scammer ought to be smeared with hamburger meat and then thrown into a pit full of hungry crocodiles. I don't understand how someone could behave that rotten and have no conscious. They're human trash.
So.

A human vice that leaves its victims penniless but alive should be met with a judgment of torturous death.

That is not an 'eye for an eye'. It is more akin to an eye for both an entire person's body and their cousin Rick's too. :omg:
 

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One thing anyone should consider is the sometimes specific data accessible by scammers, such as frequency of target response. Scammers will even sell information containing a target's mail/email address, cellphone number, etc., detailing if-or-how often someone responds to a fake message even if their particular scam does not pay off for them.
 

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Few months ago i was getting constant emails from someone pretending to be Apple. Those stopped and just recently i got a text saying my bank info needed attention claiming someone charged my accounts and that fraud took place so i called the numbers for the bank i already had on file and they said nothing was wrong and the text were from people fishing for info. A week ago i got a email claiming my Amazon account was blocked and needed attention, so i went and logged in and nothing was blocked. A few days ago i got another email saying i had activity at sams club i just erased it because i have never bought anything from sams club and never made any kind of account there.


I agree with this method.
All these things are designed to immediately get our attention and disturb us into action. Legitimate companies never correspond in this manner.
 

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So.

A human vice that leaves its victims penniless but alive should be met with a judgment of torturous death.

That is not an 'eye for an eye'. It is more akin to an eye for both an entire person's body and their cousin Rick's too. :omg:

We could do that or have them executed by an axe-throwing squad. Or by having a dump truck filled with cinder blocks dump that on their head. Or shove them out of a 747 at 30,000 feet. Nothing extreme or anything. I just really dislike scammers.
 

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We could do that or have them executed by an axe-throwing squad. Or by having a dump truck filled with cinder blocks dump that on their head. Or shove them out of a 747 at 30,000 feet. Nothing extreme or anything. I just really dislike scammers.
Understood. Also understand you will likely be vetted from most jury selections. Either that or some poor defense attorney will regret not getting your name removed from consideration until his or her dying day. :muttley:
 

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I think I could probably dream up some bogus scam that might work, but I CANNOT EVEN FATHOM doing that to someone. If somehow I had had a moral failing to do such a thing, my conscious would murder me day after day. That's why I don't get how anyone could actually do that crap. Don't they have a kind of Christmas Carol moment where their ghosts come back to haunt them and make their conscious miserable for doing something like that? I mean what the [bleep]?

No Christmas ghosts. They have no conscience. There are sociopaths born every day.

I get a lot of these. They've gotten a lot more tricky to spot, except I got one from Netflix about the time we were all locked down due to COVID. A lot of people were signing up for streaming services for the first time, and the scammers took advantage of that.

This one had misspellings and grammar errors, so very easy to spot the scam.

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