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There aren't going to be a lot of guys wanting to pick up and move to Dallas knowing they could be moving again next year when MM gets fired.
You know, do we know that for sure? What we think should happen doesn't mean it will happen.

I think this can go two ways. I think BigMac gets more years if we have a good season. The only variable in play is Belichick. If we have an average season, and Bill is available, that's where Jerry is going. Otherwise I don't see us moving on from Fat Mike.
 

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What?
Have you read this place for the past 20 plus years. No players would ever get a 2nd contract for big bucks. Every rookie will be released after his first bad play.
McClay has been setting up the drafts for how man-years now? So what would a different GM do any different.
I was replying to your reply about a different GM wouldn't have any of very few winning seasons...ie better draft position vs winning 12 games and having a choking QB give you an early exit..with a crappy draft position.

Really just shocked you think Jerry is a good GM.
 

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Mahomes scored 17 in a Divisional Playoff game and WON! No point's at all the 2nd Half. How did you think he won? Even Mahomes said "my defense is so good I had to learn how to play without hurting them". Again. For the millionth time! GET ME A DEFENSE!!!!!!
In best Peter Quill voice, "We have MOST of a Defense."

IMO, we are OK at DE and mostly OK in the secondary. But we SEVERLY need 2 run stuffing DTs and 2 ILB.


I like our corners and Hooker at safety. That other safety spot is a bit suspect though.

I like our DEs; I include Parsons here, not at LB.

We have 4 DTs on the roster: Hank, Osa, Gallimore, and Mazi. This "COULD" be a good group, but it hasn't worked out. Mazi is simply slow and we decided to have him lose so much weight that he is no longer an effective run stopper. I still have hope for him though. Osa is a classic 3-tech; great against the pass, but too light against the run. Hank is the opposite of Osa; great against the run, but everyone is genuinely surprised if he makes a play vs the pass. I don't know *** is up with Gallimore. So much potential, but nothing seems to show up on the field.

LB. Good Lord, what a hot mess. Officially, and I checked today, we have 5 LB on the roster: Parsons, Clark, Overshown, Vander Esch, and Buddy Johnson. Since Parsons is a DE, Vander Esch is probably retiring, Overshown is injured, and Clark is still recovering from his injury; that leaves us with 1, repeat 1, uninjured Linebacker.

Our FA and Draft focus has to be on LB, DT, and OL. Has to be. I still feel like we blew it last year by ignoring the OL when we had VERY solid guys standing there with our first two picks. Had we taken them, we probably would be talking about how OL is a team strength.
 

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3 12-5 seasons say you have no clue about talent. The lack of “talent” is in the coaching staff and executive staff.
That same coaching staff and executive staff were there for the three 12-5 seasons also. You need talent to win a Super Bowl. The Cowboys have very little of it.
 

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You know, do we know that for sure? What we think should happen doesn't mean it will happen.

I think this can go two ways. I think BigMac gets more years if we have a good season. The only variable in play is Belichick. If we have an average season, and Bill is available, that's where Jerry is going. Otherwise I don't see us moving on from Fat Mike.
I just can’t see Jerry going Belichick. The way he will see it is that even if they win, he still loses due to his incessant need for “credit.”

What this team honestly needs is to let Jerry’s time on earth expire, the kid probably tries to keep things the same for a while thereafter but by that time the drought is closer to 40 years, and just maybe he finally caves and hires an actual qualified football guy to run ops, and find the next Shanahan, McVay, etc….and go from there.

I have absolutely NO confidence in Jerry and his kid to find a capable coach.

Other than the Hail Mary they may have for this upcoming season, I’ve pretty much already written off the next five or so. That’s why I don’t mind Zimmer. This has to completely implode before it will have a chance to get better.
 

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You are correct, but didn’t Bill turn this mess around? I don’t think Bill had anything to do with bringing TO here, all Jerry.
I guess the answer is to not do anything and see how the next 30 years go.
The thing of what to do, is Jerry to actually go by his word. Go all in and make changes.
Which remains to be seen.
 

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I wont feel sorry for anyone that takes a job in this mishandled franchise.
 

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I was replying to your reply about a different GM wouldn't have any of very few winning seasons...ie better draft position vs winning 12 games and having a choking QB give you an early exit..with a crappy draft position.

Really just shocked you think Jerry is a good GM.
I did not say Jerry was a good GM. Stop making crap up.
 

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That same coaching staff and executive staff were there for the three 12-5 seasons also. You need talent to win a Super Bowl. The Cowboys have very little of it.
3 12-5 seasons proves you’re clueless about NFL talent.
 

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I'd take a 7-8 and a divisional playoff victory, but we know that's ever happening.
 

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So assuming Zimmer sticks to his 4-3 two high alignment we have some good parts still under contract

LDE - Tank Lawrence
NT - Likely Hankins and MazI
DT - Osa Odighizuwa
RDE - Sam Williams

OLB - Micah Parsons
ILB - Damone Clark / LVE if healthy
OLB - DeMarvion Overshown

CB - Trevon Diggs, DaRon Bland
FS - Malik Hooker
SS - Donovan Wilson

NT likely brings Hankins back. Vander Esch may or may not return. MLB and nickel corner will need upgraded
Please not Williams, that guy is good for at least 1 stupid play and 1 stupid penalty per game
 

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Choking in three straight playoff games proves you are clueless about NFL talent. Let me know when the NFL starts giving Lombardi's for 12-5 seasons .
Never said 12-5 was good enough. You said they have no talent. 3 12-5 season prove that you’re wrong. Mic drop…….
 

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Never said 12-5 was good enough. You said they have no talent. 3 12-5 season prove that you’re wrong. Mic drop…….
I didn't say they didn't have any talent. I said they didn't have Super Bowl talent. I've been proven right and you've been proven wrong. You are totally happy with nothing more than good regular season records. I am not. I have higher standards than you.

This is me throwing you to the ground and rubbing your face in dog poop
 

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I can't name any defensive players not corners that I'd be thrilled with if I were coming in as DC. You have an aging Tank. I don't count Micah because he's just everywhere all at once. So, I can't count on Micah at MLB.... Our defensive tackles IMO are all bad. Hankins maybe savable. Other linebackers. Bad!! Safeties have a few "young" guys I think "could" be good. Sorta disappointed with our free safety guys. Hooker etc. Wilson if he'd be my enforcer I'd leave him in there at strong. But anybody anti-Dak better hope he can score point's early in the season because I don't see the defense starting quick next season. Going to be offense or bust -early. We need to draft a DT. Trade for a DT. Draft LB-trade for LB. Put Mazi at a McDonalds stall and say " eat all you want-buddy" Get him back up to 340. I think even if you do all of this. Going to take awhile for this to jell into a good defensive unit. So, patients is going to be the rule on defense here. I'm just hoping I can finally get a Baltimore type defense-finally!!!! I hope. But it's going to take a re-build. It's not there now.
Totally disagree.
This is a great job opportunity.
We have one of the best Edge pairings in the NFL in Tank and Micah.
Micah is simply one of the NFLs greatest talents (and I've been hard on him in previous posts).
You have Diggs and Bland who are turnover machines, and one of the best CB combos going.
Solid safeties, a few pieces at IDL (Osa is a good player, Mazi still has upside etc, Hankins can help)
A few pieces to fill in, namely LB, Slot CB, IDL, but overall, there is a lot here.

I agree with you that the best ways to address the holes in to be bring in a FA AND draft a guy.
Personally, I'd go OL in Round 1, IDL in Round 2, and LB in Round 3.
Several good DL projected in Round 2, and I LOVE Eichenberg in Round 3, were he there.
Sign a guy like Jewell or Cashman, and along with Eichenberg, LB becomes really solid.
Same thing at DL. A vet like Reader or even Harris, and a draft pick (one of the Texas guys, Hall from Ohio St, someone like that), and DL could really improve. Keep your strength at Edge and Corner and this could be a really good D.
Stop the run and this D can be special.
Also, yes, MM is a lame duck, but someone who comes in and does well with the D has a good shot at being the next HC.
I like Vrabel for this reason, but that's just me.
 

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I didn't say they didn't have any talent. I said they didn't have Super Bowl talent. I've been proven right and you've been proven wrong. You are totally happy with nothing more than good regular season records. I am not. I have higher standards than you.

This is me throwing you to the ground and rubbing your face in dog poop
Lol, is it white dog poop or regular?
 
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