I found the Key to the Cowboys success on Offense

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Yep. There are so any games where this has happened. The one that jumps out the most is GB two years ago. They couldn't stop Murray. It was working, so they quit. Meanwhile, they come back from a 21 point defecit.

yup and this year, running it aginast the Giants and they cant stop, so we stop it for them
 

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If you haven't seen that Bronco/Packer game...I strongly suggest it. Denver basically had 2 sets. 4wrs/ single back.....and then they would run 2wrs/2TEs...w/both TE's to the same side...and run stretch plays like us....or some counter cutback plays. They were pretty creative sneaking out the TEs in that 2 TE set as well. Alot to be learned from that tape. I'm sure other teams are gonna looking @ that to see what Denver did to expose the Packers like that.

The Patriots have been doing this for years. They're definitely creative with motion and how/where they line players up. Garrett just isn't that kind of coach-as other have stated. He wants to keep it simple, mistake free, line up and beat the guy across from you football. That's not an attack, just an observation.
 

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I agree. Butler needs to be active this week. Spread the field with Dez and Butler on the outside. Williams in the slot. Beasley tight to the formation. You can have Witten out there. Just have stay into block, solidify the protection and then go out into the flat.

The whole point of going w/ 4 Wrs is to spread them out .....and run the football.
 

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I think the Cowboys really just need more variety on offense. Whether it is in the running game or in the passing game, they need more variety. We seldom run anything other than a zone stretch or a lead toss. We don't run counters, we almost never run weak side, we only seem to run draws in the red zone. We dont have our receivers run double moves, we don't use bunch formations or rubs, even after showing we could do it well--we rarely run screens.

TL;DR The Cowboys don't have enough variety to really keep teams guessing.
 

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The Patriots have been doing this for years. They're definitely creative with motion and how/where they line players up. Garrett just isn't that kind of coach-as other have stated. He wants to keep it simple, mistake free, line up and beat the guy across from you football. That's not an attack, just an observation.

Only one problem w/ this game plan. We don't play mistake free football. Doug Free....and Witten's penalties are drive killers. Between those 2....I plan on @ least 3-4 penalties between them. Considering those penalties kill 25% of your drives....It's hard to win football games when your handicapping yourself like that.
 

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If we're going to try it, let's do it this week or next so if Cassel gets crushed nobody cares all that much.

With Butler in the lineup and Dez back, I'd like to see this, by the way. Too bad (again) that Dunbar's out, because he'd be a useful player to chip and get out in a pattern there, too. Though I imagine DMC can pass protect a bit better and still be a threat to run or catch.
 

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It seems that the offensive philosophy has been that we don't dictate terms to the defense, instead we only take what they're willing to give us.

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It seems that the offensive philosophy has been that we don't dictate terms to the defense, instead we only take what they're willing to give us.

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It's a team philosophy. It's the same they use on defense. I want to say we are more reactive, than active, but that would seem to insinuate our coaches are adept at making in-game adjustments and you'll never hear me say that.
 

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I break quite a bit of tape down during the week...and it sure seems like that all you see defenses play is a 4-2-nickle. Why we haven't spread people out before now and ran the football...is really puzzling.

For once I agree with you Floaty. Not that is any definitive solution to all our woes like your title suggests...but I agree it can be a good formation to run from.
 

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I've been saying for year now, we need to run out of passing formations more often.

The draw plays used to be so effective for this team. They've all but abandoned it for some reason, hardly ever calling it. Garrett is not big on gamesmanship. Run 4 or 5 draw plays a week. Put it on film. If it delays the pass rush even a split second you're ahead of the curve. If defenses don't respect it and get up field too quick, it's easy yards. It helps both the pass and run offense. The more an opponents defense has to worry about on the field, the better.
 

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Just got done breaking down the Packer/Broncos beatdown.....So what does this have to do w/ the Cowboys?

Good question....

Noticed how the Broncos were using 4 wrs to force the Packers into their nickle package. 6 guys in the box.....always. Then it occurred to me why doesn't Dallas do that?

Single RB...4 WRs......Our offensive line should feast having to block only 6 in the box. And Demerius Thomas was 1 on 1 the whole time. Think Dez would like that?

Don't think the Cowboys do it because they feel obligated to have Witten in the lineup. But w/ that you have another LBer on the field.


Just thought I'd share. Packers looked really vulnerable on D.

And if you haven't seen that game you should check it out. Cowboys could learn alot from that tape on the Packers.

BRING BACK THE RUN AND SHOOT
 

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If you haven't seen that Bronco/Packer game...I strongly suggest it. Denver basically had 2 sets. 4wrs/ single back.....and then they would run 2wrs/2TEs...w/both TE's to the same side...and run stretch plays like us....or some counter cutback plays. They were pretty creative sneaking out the TEs in that 2 TE set as well. Alot to be learned from that tape. I'm sure other teams are gonna looking @ that to see what Denver did to expose the Packers like that.

There is ONE problem with what you are asking......The Cowboys don't change...they take what the defense gives them instead of dictating what the defense does.....Love the idea but highly doubt Jason Garrett or Scott Linehan will do anything different.....being calculated and out scheming the opponent is not a coaching concerns in Dallas.
 

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Just got done breaking down the Packer/Broncos beatdown.....So what does this have to do w/ the Cowboys?

Good question....

Noticed how the Broncos were using 4 wrs to force the Packers into their nickle package. 6 guys in the box.....always. Then it occurred to me why doesn't Dallas do that?

Single RB...4 WRs......Our offensive line should feast having to block only 6 in the box. And Demerius Thomas was 1 on 1 the whole time. Think Dez would like that?

Don't think the Cowboys do it because they feel obligated to have Witten in the lineup. But w/ that you have another LBer on the field.


Just thought I'd share. Packers looked really vulnerable on D.

And if you haven't seen that game you should check it out. Cowboys could learn alot from that tape on the Packers.



I appreciate your well thought out post,
I also appreciate that you did not just do what most thought would do and say play Kellen Moore.

However one may question if they believe Witten is better than any 4th WR they have on the team.

I thought at the start of camp there was talk of getting Escobar out in WR spots at times but that seemed to go nowhere or disappear.
 

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Just got done breaking down the Packer/Broncos beatdown.....So what does this have to do w/ the Cowboys?

Good question....

Noticed how the Broncos were using 4 wrs to force the Packers into their nickle package. 6 guys in the box.....always. Then it occurred to me why doesn't Dallas do that?

Single RB...4 WRs......Our offensive line should feast having to block only 6 in the box. And Demerius Thomas was 1 on 1 the whole time. Think Dez would like that?

Don't think the Cowboys do it because they feel obligated to have Witten in the lineup. But w/ that you have another LBer on the field.

Just thought I'd share. Packers looked really vulnerable on D.

And if you haven't seen that game you should check it out. Cowboys could learn alot from that tape on the Packers.

Broncos have the the top CB1/CB2 pair in the NFL. Their CB3 is a 1st round pick who is also excellant.

When you have CBs like that, its changes EVERYTHING. Not to mention the Broncos have a fantastic 3-4 front with Ware and Miller on the edges and rugged athletic 3-4 defense linemen.

Really impressive defense.
 
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Guys come on. You can't just install entire new formations and plays in the middle of an NFL season. These guys aren't brain surgeons. There are only a couple of real practices in the week, and in those there is barely enough time to install new personnel packages into the existing scheme and a few play tweaks perhaps. In training camp, we built the offense for Romo. It was designed to protect him and establish the run while having Dez draw doubles.

Weeden steps in and can't run that offense. Cassel steps in and probably knows part of the playbook, but not all of them second nature. Now you want to run a spread with a guy who barely grasps the base offense. Nope.

If in a NASCAR race your driver breaks his arm mid-race, you can't take the time to retool the car, adjust the seat/steering/pedals for his benefit. Right now our replacement driver can't see over the dashboard even on the phone book he's sitting on, and is reaching to push the pedals with the tips of his toes. Now you want to switch the gauges he's looking at to the metric system.
 

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The Broncos have Peyton Manning, we have Matt Cassell who has been with the team for less than 2 months.

Come on dude.
 

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Just got done breaking down the Packer/Broncos beatdown.....So what does this have to do w/ the Cowboys?

Good question....

Noticed how the Broncos were using 4 wrs to force the Packers into their nickle package. 6 guys in the box.....always. Then it occurred to me why doesn't Dallas do that?

Single RB...4 WRs......Our offensive line should feast having to block only 6 in the box. And Demerius Thomas was 1 on 1 the whole time. Think Dez would like that?

Don't think the Cowboys do it because they feel obligated to have Witten in the lineup. But w/ that you have another LBer on the field.


Just thought I'd share. Packers looked really vulnerable on D.

And if you haven't seen that game you should check it out. Cowboys could learn alot from that tape on the Packers.

I also noticed how the broncos were using an actual nfl qb...the cowboys should try that too!!!
 

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Only one problem w/ this game plan. We don't play mistake free football. Doug Free....and Witten's penalties are drive killers. Between those 2....I plan on @ least 3-4 penalties between them. Considering those penalties kill 25% of your drives....It's hard to win football games when your handicapping yourself like that.

Dallas is #6 in fewest penalty yardage per game. Not bad. Thats both offensive and defensive penalties. I was actually surprised They seem more disciplined then other teams.
 

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Just got done breaking down the Packer/Broncos beatdown.....So what does this have to do w/ the Cowboys?

Good question....

Noticed how the Broncos were using 4 wrs to force the Packers into their nickle package. 6 guys in the box.....always. Then it occurred to me why doesn't Dallas do that?

Single RB...4 WRs......Our offensive line should feast having to block only 6 in the box. And Demerius Thomas was 1 on 1 the whole time. Think Dez would like that?

Don't think the Cowboys do it because they feel obligated to have Witten in the lineup. But w/ that you have another LBer on the field.


Just thought I'd share. Packers looked really vulnerable on D.

And if you haven't seen that game you should check it out. Cowboys could learn alot from that tape on the Packers.

COWBOYS don't have 4WR's who are able to separate and make a catch
 
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