I guess we SHOULD have traded Ellis, Glover and Dat in the offseason.

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This was a hot topic in the offseason. I think many of us were resistant to the winds of change. We love the integrity and heart of players like these and didn't want to see them traded even though the writing was on the wall. Ellis's playing time has been greatly reduced. Dat's body can't hold on any longer. And Glover is rumored to be a salary cap casualty next year.

I know all of these fellas have contributed this year, but if the Cowboys are looking like they won't make the Playoffs, wouldn't it have made more sense to just cut our losses immediately and picked up some more depth at weak positions like linebacker and the offensive line?

You can say Parcells needed those guys for depth and because of untrusted young players, and it's true with guys like Canty and Spears, but there isn't exactly anyone behind Ellis, Glover and Dat on the depth charts next year. They will be replaced by no name scrubs.

It's moves like this that baffle me. We could have possibly gotten 2nd round draft picks for these guys, or at least some solid starters, and instead we're going to end up with nothing. This team doesn't have enough depth to lose guys like this for zilch. :bang2:

I guess I like Parcells draft day decision, but it really bugs me how he loses so many players for nothing at all in return. I know it's not as easy as it looks to the layman, but how can the Eagles get a 2nd rounder for A.J. Feeley, yet we can't even get a six pack of beer for our guys?
 
Future 585 said:
hindsight is always 20/20 to be cliche...

But this wasn't hindsight. There some Dat trade rumors. Ellis was asking to be let go. A lot of fans were screaming for Parcells to make something happen if he didn't intend on playing these guys fair and square. Parcells isn't giving Ellis or Glover near as much time now that the rookies have learned the pro game a bit better. I'm thinking he never had any inclination to give La'Roi or Greg a fair shot to begin with, so I'm disappointed he didn't explore some trade offers when he had a better hand to deal with.
 
I advocated trading Ellis.

I might have traded Glover if we got a crazy offer but wanted him and Dat back. They were transitional Vets.
 
20/20 hindsight, but yes, we should have.

If we get next to nothing for Glover, a recent probowler, and Ellis, still in his prime, I'll be even angrier than I was at giving up Antonio Bryant for Quincy Morgan.
 
wonder why we didn't trade Glover, Ellis and Dat?

maybe because only Dat was fielding a considerable return, and we still had to part with a 3rd

btw, that return, is having an injury-plagued season this year
 
We should have, and I think it's strange we haven't done something like this the last couple of years, because Parcells traded players for picks in other places, especially the Jets. But, we had no way of knowing Canty would be so good so fast with his injury situation. He might not have even been ready to play at all this year, and that might have meant more 4-3 this year.
 
I believe it is safe to say that alot of changes are in store for the very near future!
 
It would have been a huge mistake to trade either Glover or Ellis last off season.

Didn't we beat this topic to death for 6 months already before camp started???
 
Seems the D hasn't played as well since Ellis has been getting less time. Teams throw their attention at Ware, and that helps Ellis, without Ellis, out there, they don't have someone else that's really making them pay for focusing on Ware.
 
What quality players did we not get anything for that were released prematurely?

THere has to be desparation by another team to pull the A.J. Feeley type deal, so I am unsure who you mean...Hunter?...lol
 
ware has 4 sacks early in season, fizzled since

Funny how ELLIS / GLOVER ARE UNSCATHED WHEN TEAMS RUN AT THEM.... See Glovers two defensive holdings last game - that says it all. Gap shooters are not a 3-4 nt LONG TERM SOLUTION - ESPECIALLY AGED 33/34.
 
Or Dallas could have had a way better defense by scheming around the talent in place.....
 
summerisfunner said:
wonder why we didn't trade Glover, Ellis and Dat?

maybe because only Dat was fielding a considerable return, and we still had to part with a 3rd

btw, that return, is having an injury-plagued season this year



Could Darren Howard even ply OLB ???

If not, he'd also be too small for a 3-4 DE.
 
TruBlueCowboy said:
This was a hot topic in the offseason. I think many of us were resistant to the winds of change. We love the integrity and heart of players like these and didn't want to see them traded even though the writing was on the wall. Ellis's playing time has been greatly reduced. Dat's body can't hold on any longer. And Glover is rumored to be a salary cap casualty next year.

I know all of these fellas have contributed this year, but if the Cowboys are looking like they won't make the Playoffs, wouldn't it have made more sense to just cut our losses immediately and picked up some more depth at weak positions like linebacker and the offensive line?

You can say Parcells needed those guys for depth and because of untrusted young players, and it's true with guys like Canty and Spears, but there isn't exactly anyone behind Ellis, Glover and Dat on the depth charts next year. They will be replaced by no name scrubs.

It's moves like this that baffle me. We could have possibly gotten 2nd round draft picks for these guys, or at least some solid starters, and instead we're going to end up with nothing. This team doesn't have enough depth to lose guys like this for zilch. :bang2:

I guess I like Parcells draft day decision, but it really bugs me how he loses so many players for nothing at all in return. I know it's not as easy as it looks to the layman, but how can the Eagles get a 2nd rounder for A.J. Feeley, yet we can't even get a six pack of beer for our guys?


A lot of teams in this league don't have depth. That's just the way it is. And doesn't that reek of hindsight about Dat. I think what Parcells has tried to do this year is use those guys as a bridge to Canty, Spears, and Burnett.
 
If Mort is right and Parcells does retire we may still need Ellis and Glover if the new coach doesn't want to stick with a 3-4 Defense...
 

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