I Hate Mike Pereira

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The process of the catch still needs to be completed no matter what. I think it was a catch. But crossing the plane makes no difference in the process of a catch

If that is the case it was the same as the Dez catch. The plays were pretty much identical. Players should really focus on securing the ball, because any bobble and it is usually overturned. Personally, I think both Dez and Beasley were making a football move after securing the ball.
 

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once it breaks the plain of the goal line the play is dead. thats the difference between the two calls.
 

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After the Beasley touchdown did everyone hear what he said?

He was trying to argue that Beasley's catch could be overruled and not be a touch down. And he tried to point out why.

I think he has some bias against the Cowboys. He just seems his calls seems to work against us.

ALL sports media is biased against THE DALLAS COWBOYS. ALL favor NE, NYG, PITT and GB..........It's been this way since the parting of Landry
 

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I think the bigger issue with the refs is when you look at the Seattle game. For whatever reason, teams like Seattle's secondary is held to a different standard then most other teams. They get by with alot more than say the Cowboys. Focusing on those type injustices instead of something that came and went 1 1/2 years ago is more relevant.
I think that's the thing that bothers me the most, when the refs call the game differently for one player to another.

I've seen a clip of Garrett saying to the sideline ref, "Just cause Dez is a bigger guy, corners are getting away with holding on him. I don't care how big he is, it's STILL A PENALTY"

That's exactly what you're saying, and I despise both what you were referencing AND the tampering in the game where Dez caught the ball. Equally infuriating, at least to me.
 

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I don't think that's the problem at all. I think the problem is that the rule basically allows any outcome to be justified based on the interpretation of the official.

Nobody will ever be able to get a majority of their predictions right with the way the rule is currently written.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-...1000/Bengals-Tyler-Eifert-overturned-TD-catch

Similar play from a couple years ago. I don't think it's fair to say that people don't know the rule. The rule provides different results almost weekly.

Possibly.

That could indeed be it.

I think the way the rule is written allows way to much of them to try and decide rather the person is making a football move or going down. And it seems to me that these guys don't know the difference.

Even he was trying to say yesterday that they had to determine rather Beasley's movements were football moves or the process of going to the ground. That should have been pretty clear and not something that needed to be thought about. There was nothing to determine there as it should have been very clear that Beasley made football moves and then dove.
 

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once it breaks the plain of the goal line the play is dead. thats the difference between the two calls.
You are dead wrong, you obviously didn't see the Tyler Eifert & Devonte Freeman plays last year, both clearly make the catch, reach across the plain and the ball comes out when they hit the ground, and replay rules them both incomplete.
 

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Mike Perira is on record saying once the ball is possessed and the ball carrier breaks the plane of the goal line, that is a touchdown at that moment. If the person then subsequently lands on the field in the end zone and the field makes the ball come loose, it should not matter.

There's actually a poster here on this site who has a quote from Perira from several years ago about this in their signature.

The referee in yesterday's game obviously agrees with Perira's earlier statement.

Perira HIMSELF used to say once the ball breaks the plane of the goal line, that's a TD and the ball becomes 'dead' at that point, whatever happens after that is irrelevant. We know this because of plays in the past where a defender was trying to strip the ball, but failed to do so until AFTER the ball carrier had the ball over the goal line. The defender causing a fumble & the other team recovering it did not matter because the touchdown had already been scored, the ball became dead and the subsequent fumble and recovery did not count.

This is what the NFL has done to itself, where a guy who used to confidently explain how the ball becomes dead once breaking the plane of the goal line is now live on the air saying it's not and then the game referee makes the call according to the rule book.

It's a farce.
 

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Seriously? Dirt flew up in the air from Dez's lunge. He clearly made a football move.

I remember the final lunge off of one foot.

Obviously I know that Dez was trying to score and make a football move there; and I'd call it a catch if it were up to me.

But those are the differences. Beas didn't bobble the catch at all and both feet seem to be pushing off the ground.
 

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I just showed you 2 plays above

So there are examples of inconsistent rulings in the NFL.

"Want to 'prove' breaking the plane of the goal line with possession of the ball doesn't count if it comes loose once you land in the end zone? Watch these two videos!"

"Want to 'prove' breaking the plane of the goal line with possession of the ball counts and it's a TD if it comes loose after you land in the end zone? Watch Cole Beasley's TD catch from yesterday!"

Both sentences above are 100% true and accurate. Neither is false.

Because this is what the NFL has done to itself.
 

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After the Beasley touchdown did everyone hear what he said?

He was trying to argue that Beasley's catch could be overruled and not be a touch down. And he tried to point out why.

I think he has some bias against the Cowboys. He just seems his calls seems to work against us.

I lost it yelling at that point. had enough of this clown. arguing that TD showed his colors clearly.
 

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Looking at the replay Beasley took 4-5 steps before the ball coming loose. I think this was unlike the others shown because he, IMO, had clearly become a runner at that point. Dez, and Eifert were 2 feet and a football move and they should have been catches IMO, but I think Beasley was in a different situation with the number of steps he took.
 

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When he came on, I immediately thought he would find some way to say that pass was incomplete.
He didn't disappoint.
 

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After the Beasley touchdown did everyone hear what he said?

He was trying to argue that Beasley's catch could be overruled and not be a touch down. And he tried to point out why.

I think he has some bias against the Cowboys. He just seems his calls seems to work against us.
It seems like whatever Pereira says the call will be it is always the exact opposite. Scary he was the head of officiating in the NFL
 
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