I Hate The Draft

[ReturnToGlory]

Ever since Jimmy left and Jerry took control - how many of you agree that you get so excited leading up to the draft and during the draft when a player like Stephen Jackson or Rashard Mendenhall falls right into our laps but the 'boys pull a trade or draft a backup and a meltdown occurs. This happens every single year. We are bigger idiots than Jerry.

 

[ajk23az]

Like it says in another post, Mendenhall was too much like Barber. Not really a big play guy, not a home run threat. Felix will provide this.

Also never thought we'd get Jenkins that late.

I love our draft.

 

[hvgill]

What exactly is the fascination with Stephen Jackson? He's had one decent year out of 4 and people talk as if he's great.

 

[TRUTH87]

I guess we just have to read peoples complaining minds all the time. i mean not all fans can be happy. if we would of gotten mcfadden for sum odd reason (the best rb in this draft) guess wut?...yes more complaining.

live with it people, ...sum people act if they had the magic ball to decide wuts right..and wuts wrong. whos a bust and whos not.

mendenhall wasnt the right one for dallas. its like putting 2 michael jordans on the same team. wut do u do? YOU HAVE TO SIT ONE..INORDER TO PLAY THE OTHER. cant have both on @ the same time.....Jordan had complimentary players around him. Jones is a compliment to Barber....

btw, forget s. jackson that was son long ago

 

[jsond]

its like putting 2 michael jordans on the same team.

Yeah that would be terrible.....fantastic analogy.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I guess we just have to read peoples complaining minds all the time. i mean not all fans can be happy. if we would of gotten mcfadden for sum odd reason (the best rb in this draft) guess wut?...yes more complaining.

live with it people, ...sum people act if they had the magic ball to decide wuts right..and wuts wrong. whos a bust and whos not.

mendenhall wasnt the right one for dallas. its like putting 2 michael jordans on the same team. wut do u do? YOU HAVE TO SIT ONE..INORDER TO PLAY THE OTHER. cant have both on @ the same time.....Jordan had complimentary players around him. Jones is a compliment to Barber....

btw, forget s. jackson that was son long ago

Worst. Analogy. Ever.

 

[jjktkk]

Ever since Jimmy left and Jerry took control - how many of you agree that you get so excited leading up to the draft and during the draft when a player like Stephen Jackson or Rashard Mendenhall falls right into our laps but the 'boys pull a trade or draft a backup and a meltdown occurs. This happens every single year. We are bigger idiots than Jerry.

IMO youre overexaggerating. Jerry did miss on Stephen Jackson, But lets wait and see what Mendenhall and Felix Jones do this year before we bash Jerry again. Jerry has made some bad personnel moves over the years, but he was trying his best to keep the dynasty going, not trying to pinch pennies like some owners do. Plus Jimmy wasnt the only reason the Cowboys were a dynasty back in the 90's. Jerry had something to do with Cowboys success also. Even Tom Landry a little input too, since Irvin, Newton, and Norton were already on the team, prior to Jimmy getting there. It was a collective effort. Also have to thank Minnesota for giving up all those draft picks and players. Jimmy was a great coach, but their were great players and coaches, and a owner that was willing to do whatever it took to have a winning team. Jimmy never did recapture that winning formula with Maimi, so that should tell you the Cowboys of the 90's were truly a very special team. From the owner down to the players, not just jimmy only.

 

[Valor]

I hate ignorance, war, and disease. Oh, and those greenish pants we wear.

 

[Bleu Star]

I guess we just have to read peoples complaining minds all the time. i mean not all fans can be happy. if we would of gotten mcfadden for sum odd reason (the best rb in this draft) guess wut?...yes more complaining.

live with it people, ...sum people act if they had the magic ball to decide wuts right..and wuts wrong. whos a bust and whos not.

mendenhall wasnt the right one for dallas. its like putting 2 michael jordans on the same team. wut do u do? YOU HAVE TO SIT ONE..INORDER TO PLAY THE OTHER. cant have both on @ the same time.....Jordan had complimentary players around him. Jones is a compliment to Barber....

btw, forget s. jackson that was son long ago

@ your post. Nice try.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you guys are twisting the whole Stephen Jackson thing

for 1, we didn't pass on Jackson for Julius, we passed on Kevin Jones for a 1st round pick

 

[ReturnToGlory]

seriously - you guys like what we have done since the '94 draft?

Trying to be unbiased here's how we've done.

2006 - Bobby Carpenter and Fasano in the first two rounds.
2005 - can't complain here. our best draft post-Jimmy.
2004 - J.Jones over S.Jackson. Did you see the Ram's OL last year?
2003 - Good draft thanks to the Jets (Big Bill wanted D. Robertson over TNew). But Al Johnson in the 2nd was a bust.
2002 - Roy Williams and Gurode in the first two rounds. not bad.
2001 - Infamous Quincy Carter (#53) and Tony Dixon draft. Not to mention trading the eventual #9 pick to Seattle for Galloway. We passed on Kendrell Bell (#39), Ken Lucas (#40), Robert Ferguson (#41), Kris Jenkins (#44), Freb Smoot (#45), Matt Light (#48), LaMont Jordan (#49) and Chris Chambers (#52) for our franchise QB.
2000 - Dwayne Goodrich draft. Not to mention trading our pick for Galloway. Didn't Seattle choose Alexander with this pick.
1999 - Ebenezer Ekuban and Solomon Page in the first two rounds.
1998 - Infamous Randy Moss draft.
1997 - The David LaFleur draft.
1996 - Passing on Tony Brackens and getting Kavika Pittman draft. Drafting Brackens would have prevented us from drafting Ellis in '98 and Ekuban in '99.
1995 - The triumvarite of Sherman Williams, Kendell Watkins and Shane Hannah in the 2nd round. - Could have stayed put and drafted Derrick Brooks. But no, we had enough LBs and needed backups (RB & TE) to compliment our starters.
1994 - Our downfall starter with Shante Carver in the 1st. Had Jerry pulled the trigger on a trade for Willie McGinest, we would not have had the run on DEs with our first picks and I bet the landscape of the NFL might have turned out to be a little different.

Wow, we sucked pre-Parcells. As much as I hate Big Bill, after going through this research, I should thank him despite the Jacobs, Peterman, Johnson, Carpenter and Fasano busts.

and Mendenhall is faster than FeJo.

 

[Thomas82]

seriously - you guys like what we have done since the '94 draft?

Trying to be unbiased here's how we've done.

2006 - Bobby Carpenter and Fasano in the first two rounds.
2005 - can't complain here. our best draft post-Jimmy.
2004 - J.Jones over S.Jackson. Did you see the Ram's OL last year?
2003 - Good draft thanks to the Jets (Big Bill wanted D. Robertson over TNew). But Al Johnson in the 2nd was a bust.
2002 - Roy Williams and Gurode in the first two rounds. not bad.
2001 - Infamous Quincy Carter (#53) and Tony Dixon draft. Not to mention trading the eventual #9 pick to Seattle for Galloway. We passed on Kendrell Bell (#39), Ken Lucas (#40), Robert Ferguson (#41), Kris Jenkins (#44), Freb Smoot (#45), Matt Light (#48), LaMont Jordan (#49) and Chris Chambers (#52) for our franchise QB.
2000 - Dwayne Goodrich draft. Not to mention trading our pick for Galloway. Didn't Seattle choose Alexander with this pick.
1999 - Ebenezer Ekuban and Solomon Page in the first two rounds.
1998 - Infamous Randy Moss draft.
1997 - The David LaFleur draft.
1996 - Passing on Tony Brackens and getting Kavika Pittman draft. Drafting Brackens would have prevented us from drafting Ellis in '98 and Ekuban in '99.
1995 - The triumvarite of Sherman Williams, Kendell Watkins and Shane Hannah in the 2nd round. - Could have stayed put and drafted Derrick Brooks. But no, we had enough LBs and needed backups (RB & TE) to compliment our starters.
1994 - Our downfall starter with Shante Carver in the 1st. Had Jerry pulled the trigger on a trade for Willie McGinest, we would not have had the run on DEs with our first picks and I bet the landscape of the NFL might have turned out to be a little different.

Wow, we sucked pre-Parcells. As much as I hate Big Bill, after going through this research, I should thank him despite the Jacobs, Peterman, Johnson, Carpenter and Fasano busts.

and Mendenhall is faster than FeJo.

Good post!!!

 

[ReturnToGlory]

Wow. 13-3 and 13 probowlers doesnt make it for you? Yeah, we are bigger idiots than Jerry. Wait a minute-- maybe its just you.

That's the past. Gotta look forward.

WR - Our starting WR is in his 30s. Our #2 may retire and our #3 runs his mouth and quits on his patterns when it counts most.

RB - With his running style our starter may not last too long and in the era of the salary cap, you can't pay all 13 of your pro-bowlers. gotta let some go. Mendenhall would have been a cheap replacement for Barber and we could have gotten a complimentary back in the later rounds of this or next draft.

TE - just traded our backup for a 4th and picked a backup for a 2nd while we have a pro-bowler.

CB - I liked the Jenkins pick. Can't have enough CBs these days. And it was a change from trading out of the first. Hope his attitude is not a bad as they say it is. - This is a drafting for a starter and creating competition pick. i.e. Jimmy pick. And in this era, a money saver.

 

[jjktkk]

seriously - you guys like what we have done since the '94 draft?

Trying to be unbiased here's how we've done.

2006 - Bobby Carpenter and Fasano in the first two rounds.
2005 - can't complain here. our best draft post-Jimmy.
2004 - J.Jones over S.Jackson. Did you see the Ram's OL last year?
2003 - Good draft thanks to the Jets (Big Bill wanted D. Robertson over TNew). But Al Johnson in the 2nd was a bust.
2002 - Roy Williams and Gurode in the first two rounds. not bad.
2001 - Infamous Quincy Carter (#53) and Tony Dixon draft. Not to mention trading the eventual #9 pick to Seattle for Galloway. We passed on Kendrell Bell (#39), Ken Lucas (#40), Robert Ferguson (#41), Kris Jenkins (#44), Freb Smoot (#45), Matt Light (#48), LaMont Jordan (#49) and Chris Chambers (#52) for our franchise QB.
2000 - Dwayne Goodrich draft. Not to mention trading our pick for Galloway. Didn't Seattle choose Alexander with this pick.
1999 - Ebenezer Ekuban and Solomon Page in the first two rounds.
1998 - Infamous Randy Moss draft.
1997 - The David LaFleur draft.
1996 - Passing on Tony Brackens and getting Kavika Pittman draft. Drafting Brackens would have prevented us from drafting Ellis in '98 and Ekuban in '99.
1995 - The triumvarite of Sherman Williams, Kendell Watkins and Shane Hannah in the 2nd round. - Could have stayed put and drafted Derrick Brooks. But no, we had enough LBs and needed backups (RB & TE) to compliment our starters.
1994 - Our downfall starter with Shante Carver in the 1st. Had Jerry pulled the trigger on a trade for Willie McGinest, we would not have had the run on DEs with our first picks and I bet the landscape of the NFL might have turned out to be a little different.

Wow, we sucked pre-Parcells. As much as I hate Big Bill, after going through this research, I should thank him despite the Jacobs, Peterman, Johnson, Carpenter and Fasano busts.

and Mendenhall is faster than FeJo.

Jimmy had a few misses as well:

1. Steve Walsh

2. Alexander Wright

3. Curvin Richards

Reaching for Russell Maryland, who was a solid player, but not worthy of the #1 overall pick.

Parcells was even worse with some of his picks. Bottom line is that the Cowboys draft record since the early 90's is spotty at best, but if you surf the web you won't find a negative grade on the Cowboys 3 picks in today's draft.

 

[Nav22]

Here's a better (yet similar) analogy than the "two Michael Jordans" one.

Most would agree that Dwyane Wade (when healthy) is a better overall player than Pau Gasol.

But if you're the Lakers and you had the chance to land either Wade or Gasol to pair up with Kobe, who do you take?

I'd take Gasol. Big guy who would be a better complement to Kobe than D-Wade would be. Would the Lakers be as good as they are right now if they had Wade instead of Gasol? Very unlikely.

Felix complements Barber better than Mendenhall would, even though Mendenhall's probably the better overall RB. Hence the Felix pick.

But I won't lie, I was initially upset too. I had to calm down, listen to Jerry's rationale, and re-think everything to see it this way. I'm excited about the Barber/Felix combo.

 

[Derinyar]

Here's a better analogy.

Most would agree that Dwyane Wade (when healthy) is a better overall player than Pau Gasol.

But if you're the Lakers and you had the chance to land either Wade or Gasol to pair up with Kobe, who do you take?

I'd take Gasol. Big guy who would be a better complement to Kobe than D-Wade would be.

Felix complements Barber better than Mendenhall would, even though Mendenhall's probably the better overall RB. Hence the Felix pick.

But I won't lie, I was initially upset too. I had to calm down, listen to Jerry's rationale, and re-think everything to see it this way. I'm excited about the Barber/Felix combo.

Now theres a good basketball analogy.

 

[sinner]

I guess we just have to read peoples complaining minds all the time. i mean not all fans can be happy. if we would of gotten mcfadden for sum odd reason (the best rb in this draft) guess wut?...yes more complaining.

live with it people, ...sum people act if they had the magic ball to decide wuts right..and wuts wrong. whos a bust and whos not.

mendenhall wasnt the right one for dallas. its like putting 2 michael jordans on the same team. wut do u do? YOU HAVE TO SIT ONE..INORDER TO PLAY THE OTHER. cant have both on @ the same time.....Jordan had complimentary players around him. Jones is a compliment to Barber....

btw, forget s. jackson that was son long ago

I'll take 2 Michael Jordans anyday.

 

[Derinyar]

I'll take 2 Michael Jordans anyday.

Too bad Barber is probably closer to Bill Cartright than he is to Micheal Jordan.

 

[AtlCB]

seriously - you guys like what we have done since the '94 draft?

Trying to be unbiased here's how we've done.

2006 - Bobby Carpenter and Fasano in the first two rounds.
2005 - can't complain here. our best draft post-Jimmy.
2004 - J.Jones over S.Jackson. Did you see the Ram's OL last year?
2003 - Good draft thanks to the Jets (Big Bill wanted D. Robertson over TNew). But Al Johnson in the 2nd was a bust.
2002 - Roy Williams and Gurode in the first two rounds. not bad.
2001 - Infamous Quincy Carter (#53) and Tony Dixon draft. Not to mention trading the eventual #9 pick to Seattle for Galloway. We passed on Kendrell Bell (#39), Ken Lucas (#40), Robert Ferguson (#41), Kris Jenkins (#44), Freb Smoot (#45), Matt Light (#48), LaMont Jordan (#49) and Chris Chambers (#52) for our franchise QB.
2000 - Dwayne Goodrich draft. Not to mention trading our pick for Galloway. Didn't Seattle choose Alexander with this pick.
1999 - Ebenezer Ekuban and Solomon Page in the first two rounds.
1998 - Infamous Randy Moss draft.
1997 - The David LaFleur draft.
1996 - Passing on Tony Brackens and getting Kavika Pittman draft. Drafting Brackens would have prevented us from drafting Ellis in '98 and Ekuban in '99.
1995 - The triumvarite of Sherman Williams, Kendell Watkins and Shane Hannah in the 2nd round. - Could have stayed put and drafted Derrick Brooks. But no, we had enough LBs and needed backups (RB & TE) to compliment our starters.
1994 - Our downfall starter with Shante Carver in the 1st. Had Jerry pulled the trigger on a trade for Willie McGinest, we would not have had the run on DEs with our first picks and I bet the landscape of the NFL might have turned out to be a little different.

Wow, we sucked pre-Parcells. As much as I hate Big Bill, after going through this research, I should thank him despite the Jacobs, Peterman, Johnson, Carpenter and Fasano busts.

and Mendenhall is faster than FeJo.

Overall, the drafting after 2002 has been some of the best in the league. 2003 gave us Terence Newman, Jason Witten, and Brady James. 2004 was bad, but we still got Patrick Crayton and Jacques Reeves in the 7th round. 2005 was one of the top drafts in Cowboys history - Demarcus Ware, Marcus Spears, Kevin Burnett, Marion Barber, Chris Canty, and Jay Ratliff. Parcells took a vacation from his brain in 2006. Usually three years is the benchmark to judge drafts, so I'll stop at 2006.

From 2003 to 2006, eight of the players drafted started last year. Four of these players made the pro bowl last year. We also signed our starting, pro bowl QB as an undrafted FA. I would say that Jerry and the scouts have done a good job.

 

[Big Dakota]

Ever since Jimmy left and Jerry took control - how many of you agree that you get so excited leading up to the draft and during the draft when a player like Stephen Jackson or Rashard Mendenhall falls right into our laps but the 'boys pull a trade or draft a backup and a meltdown occurs. This happens every single year. We are bigger idiots than Jerry.

Take your 100 posts in 4 years and go back the extremeskins.