I just don't get it... Miles Austin speed

[FuzzyLumpkins]

what were his 10s and 20s times does anyone know?

 

[Silverstar]

Why does everyone think Miles Austin is so fast? I did a quick google search on Miles Austin and found this on SI.com

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2006/draft/players/29607.html

It says his 40 time was 4.52.

I'm sorry but 4.52 isn't a blazing speed by any stretch. I'm sure he is a little faster then his college days but how much can someone improve their speed?

If he was so fast why was he a undrafted free agent? Guys who are really fast get drafted even though they may need a few years to develop.

Maybe I'm missing something here. Was Miles Austin hurt when he ran his 40 therefor his 4.52 isn't very accurate?

I'm not down on Miles Austin or anything like that. I was hoping for some clarification on his speed.

40 times of all our WR's coming out of college...


Roy Williams - 4.48 at combine, but ran much faster at his Pro Day

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=58671&draftyear=2004&genpos=WR


Miles Austin - 4.47 at combine

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=55526&draftyear=2006&genpos=WR


Patrick Crayton - 4.52-4.58 at combine

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=58187&draftyear=2004&genpos=SS


Isaiah Stanback - 10.48 100 meters - 4.40 forty (unofficial)

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/051506aac.html


Travis Wilson - 4.47 at combine

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=8635&draftyear=2006&genpos=WR


Sam Hurd - 4.59-4.61 depending on the source/site

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=13820&draftyear=2006&genpos=WR

 

[Alexander]

40 times of all our WR's coming out of college...

Eventually people will realize that getting deep separation is not about pure timed speed and never has been.

If that was the case, Alexander Wright and Randal Williams would have been the best deep ball WRs in our history.

 

[DallasDomination]

40 speed isnt everything once it comes to Football speed. Look at Hall, He ran a good time and He couldnt catch T.O all day. Look at mcfadden running a great time and looking piss poor slow in pads. Getting caught by LB's from behind. Felix is supposed to be slower then Mcfadden but from What I've seen He looks Faster by every stretch of the game. Miles can stretch the field. What he ran years ago means Nothing. Or are you telling me a real 4.6 guy like Crayton has the same speed ?


Football speed guys...Football speed.

 

[dbair1967]

Eventually people will realize that getting deep separation is not about pure timed speed and never has been.

If that was the case, Alexander Wright and Randal Williams would have been the best deep ball WRs in our history.

Dont forget the amazing Ed Hervey, I think he was actually olympic speed as I recall. May have just missed qualifying.

The obsession some have with just straight line speed is amazing, even after watching scrubs like the above named here for years. People dont seem to care if a guy can actually run routes or catch the ball, they think if he runs 4.3 he's destined to be a big play machine.

 

[Alexander]

Dont forget the amazing Ed Hervey, I think he was actually olympic speed as I recall. May have just missed qualifying.

The obsession some have with just straight line speed is amazing, even after watching scrubs like the above named here for years. People dont seem to care if a guy can actually run routes or catch the ball, they think if he runs 4.3 he's destined to be a big play machine.

Or if the player can bench 50 times, he's a BEAST!

 

[notherbob]

Speed is nice but for me I don't care what a player's 40 time is, I care whether he can catch the ball in traffic and hang on to it and unite the team like Drew Pearson or whether he leads the league, or comes close, in drive-killing drops and creating dissention like TO.

Thank God there's another few months to try to put back together this fractured group of players and maybe even mold them into a team this year now that some of the trouble makers are gone. What was Jerry thinking? Who else needs to go?

 

[Silverstar]

Eventually people will realize that getting deep separation is not about pure timed speed and never has been.

If that was the case, Alexander Wright and Randal Williams would have been the best deep ball WRs in our history.

Bob Hayes was our best deep ball WR, but who cares about "pure timed speed" if you don't have an Olympic gold medal to show for it.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

There's a lot of factors that go into that.

Who is timing the speed. How they are timing the speed. Type of track they are running on. Type of shoes he's wearing. Wind aided? Wind against.

Bernard Berrian is fast, real fast. Gets great seperation on corners. His 40 time was 4.50. Although I think Berrian and Austin are very similar as they are both long striders and those guys tend to fool corners all of the time going deep because they are running faster than they look like they are running.

Then you have guys that just keep their speed in pads compared to when they are running in shorts.




YAKUZA

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I'm sure T.O.'s timed speed wouldnt be very good either anymore but in the open field, again very hard to catch....not trying to make another T.O. thread but just saying.

I remember the talk in the beginning of last season about TO running in sand and then blazing through the field and MANY saying he was faster.

That later turned into "he lost a step" or "steps"

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Eventually people will realize that getting deep separation is not about pure timed speed and never has been.

If that was the case, Alexander Wright and Randal Williams would have been the best deep ball WRs in our history.

True, but the correlation is there. It's not a 100% correlation, but it's pretty strong nonetheless. There's not a person in the Cowboys organization that thinks Austin is not that fast and it's been that way from day one, the reason why they brought him in.

Santana Moss gets great seperation and can flat out fly. He's quick enough to get off some jams and then can let his speed take over.

There's plenty of WR that get seperation without great speed (Irvin is a classic example), but the reason why teams always draft speed at WR is because it does have a direct correlation to being a deep threat. Not all of the time, but enough so teams are wary of making the same mistake twice.



YAKUZA

 

[CATCH17]

40 speed isnt everything once it comes to Football speed. Look at Hall, He ran a good time and He couldnt catch T.O all day. Look at mcfadden running a great time and looking piss poor slow in pads. Getting caught by LB's from behind. Felix is supposed to be slower then Mcfadden but from What I've seen He looks Faster by every stretch of the game. Miles can stretch the field. What he ran years ago means Nothing. Or are you telling me a real 4.6 guy like Crayton has the same speed ?


Football speed guys...Football speed.

He couldn't catch Hines Ward with 1 shoe on either though. Literally.

 

[mmillman]

He played at Monmouth, probably has improved a lot with proper training and nutrition. Much more than someone coming from a big school who ran after special speed camps and steroid injections.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

40 time speed and playing speed are different...

Common people....
There are players that lose mad speed when they put the pads on.
I would much rather have Miles have playing speed.

 

[Yeagermeister]

If you want to know a players game speed why not time them in full pads at the combine? The teams would get a true time.

 

[Rampage]

If you want to know a players game speed why not time them in full pads at the combine? The teams would get a true time.

I never understood why they don't do this in the 1st place.

 

[Avery]

I'll catch some flak for it, but the one receiver I would kill for in this draft more than any other (even Crabtree) is Robiskie. I fully believe that he's going to be the next Marvin Harrison with his combination of route running and hands.

He's going to be a better pro than collegiate player.

 

[Cowboys2008]

I agree with you . I have seen him caught from behind a few times....
I am not down on him but I think the people that think he will step in and be a star are fulling themselves....
Roy Williams a solid number one but after that we do not have much to brag about ....
I would be happy if we went 2 tight ends lots and ran the ball with maybe the best trio of running backs in the NFL...
as a matter of fact I think Dallas has the best TE and RB combo in the NFL and I would love for Dallas to embrace it .. keep the defense off the field and pound the football . Now and then stretch the field with R.Williams .

Roy Williams IS NOT a solid #1. Wasn't one in Detroit, the dump of the NFL, and won't be even close to one here in Dallas IMO.

He's lazy.
He's full of excuses.
He's past his prime.
He's slow.
He's a bad route runner.
He has no dedication or drive.
He has a loser mentality.

I'm sorry, but for those whom think Roy Williams is our answer in a "bottle", you're going to be let down.

IMO this could be one of the reasons why Jerry Jones is trying so hard to focus the attention on Miles Austin being something "special". It's crowd control for the #1 pick we just threw away and the #1 WR we just got rid of.

 

[Cowboys2008]

If you want to know a players game speed why not time them in full pads at the combine? The teams would get a true time.

Do that AND get someone else in pads chasing them! :laugh1:

 

[Cowboy Junkie]

Roy Williams IS NOT a solid #1. Wasn't one in Detroit, the dump of the NFL, and won't be even close to one here in Dallas IMO.

He's lazy.
He's full of excuses.
He's past his prime.
He's slow.
He's a bad route runner.
He has no dedication or drive.
He has a loser mentality.

I'm sorry, but for those whom think Roy Williams is our answer in a "bottle", you're going to be let down.

IMO this could be one of the reasons why Jerry Jones is trying so hard to focus the attention on Miles Austin being something "special". It's crowd control for the #1 pick we just threw away and the #1 WR we just got rid of.

I will not disagree with what is your opinion but saying he is past his prime is ridiculous considering he is only 27 and will not turn 28 til after the regular season ends