I Just Don't See A Huge Gap Between Dak and Rush

[Jarv]

Call me the next time Rush has a season like several that Dak has had. Or maybe when Rush enters the MVP conversation at any point during a season. These comparisons just don’t hold even a little water. It’s still the same thing we always see around here, QBs being blamed for losses and given credit for the wins. I don’t remember this type of thing when Aikman’s team won a game with only FGs or when his team lost without Irvin and Smith.

It’s one thing to want a different QB. It’s one thing for hatred for Dak to go all the way back to “poor Romo” as it does with a few posters, but anyone who tries to seriously compare Dak with Rush is out of his/her mind. Before posting such ideas, some fans should try asking anyone who knows anything about football. Ask a HS coach, a college coach, a sports reporter, write letters. Maybe try writing mailbag. I’m betting you won’t even get a serious response, more like laughter.

Neither QB is mobile at this point.

Dak has a stronger arm.

Rush is faster on his reads and has a quicker release.

Both QBs shouldn't be on the roster next year, but we are stuck with a 60 million dollar QB who was outperformed by an 8 year backup.

Anyone with a smidgeon of football knowledge knows that the dak signing was one of the worst signings in NFL history.

 

[Swagger]

No, we aren’t hating it. Rush has played every game with a better team than Dak.

Dak haters are just going to have to accept that Prescott will be a Cowboy for probably the next 8 years.

Haha funny. If Dak is still playing for the Cowboys in 8 years then he's likely in a wheelchair given the state of his broken body.

I guess Rush also had better teams when the Cowboys went 4-1 with him under centre (again a better winning % than Prescott in the same season.

This is Prescott's last contract even for the brains in the front office. It's obvious that his body is breaking down and he's regressing.

 

[JoeKing]

…Between Dak without use of his legs and Rush. Dak still might be better but they don’t seem that different.

Rush started awful, but he also has game snaps equivalent to a rookie in the NFL, and he has improved every week. He throws some dirt balls and frustratingly behind players on routes, but so does Dak. He makes some stupid throws but so does Dak.

It’s only my eyeball opinion. Curious what others think

Rush isn't capable of taking the team to three consecutive 12-5 seasons. That's the difference.

 

[Blitzen]

Rush isn't capable of taking the team to three consecutive 12-5 seasons. That's the difference.

They never tried with those teams. Nobody knows-just speculation extrapolated from some of his performances thus far. The team went 4-1 in his 2022 starts only losing to the NFC champs.

He’s not better than Prescott. The problem is the argument that Prescott makes some monumental difference of the two with regards to overall team performance (overall wins and losses). Given Rush’s track record, I’m not sure why fans insist that Dak makes this enormous difference in wins and losses for this squad.

 

[G2]

There we have it, another excuse for the Dak list.

You mean facts? There are so many differences it's barely debatable.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Someone mentioned last night about the play calls & how the offense seems to have expanded. It's not because Mike just woke up. It's because the other QB forces him to have a very limited scheme.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Dak haters are just going to have to accept that Prescott will be a Cowboy for probably the next 8 years.

That's tantamount to saying you support Jerry and his strategy.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Rush isn't capable of taking the team to three consecutive 12-5 seasons. That's the difference.

Nor is he able to go 1-3 in the playoffs.

 

[JoeKing]

They never tried with those teams. Nobody knows-just speculation extrapolated from some of his performances thus far. The team went 4-1 in his 2022 starts only losing to the NFC champs.

He’s not better than Prescott. The problem is the argument that Prescott makes some monumental difference of the two with regards to overall team performance (overall wins and losses). Given Rush’s track record, I’m not sure why fans insist that Dak makes this enormous difference in wins and losses for this squad.

You're ignoring the 800 lb gorilla in the room. The Cowboys are legally bound to pay Dak $60 million per year regardless of if Dak plays or not. That fact alone puts Dak as our QB1 over anyone for the foreseeable future. You admit Cooper is not better than Dak so I don't think you have a better point than the one I just made. The enormous difference that you don't seem to see is Dak's unescapable enormous contract. It can't be ignored and it's a done deal.

 

[JoeKing]

Nor is he able to go 1-3 in the playoffs.

Cooper's not capable of getting the Cowboys to the playoffs at all. Be thankful we have Dak who is able to get the team to the playoffs.

 

[CowboyoWales]

You're ignoring the 800 lb gorilla in the room. The Cowboys are legally bound to pay Dak $60 million per year regardless of if Dak plays or not. That fact alone puts Dak as our QB1 over anyone for the foreseeable future. You admit Cooper is not better than Dak so I don't think you have a better point than the one I just made. The enormous difference that you don't seem to see is Dak's unescapable enormous contract. It can't be ignored and it's a done deal.

Not 'foreseeable future', if 2025 is anywhere similar to 2024, a decent GM would seriously consider a Post-June cut in 2026.
All Dak fans are preying that Jerry continues as he'll never move on.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Cooper's not capable of getting the Cowboys to the playoffs at all. Be thankful we have Dak who is able to get the team to the playoffs.

Which is the problem.... Dak's feeding Jerry false hope. No point in getting to the playoffs if we get SF'd (x2) or GB'd.

 

[JoeKing]

Not 'foreseeable future', if 2025 is anywhere similar to 2024, a decent GM would seriously consider a Post-June cut in 2026.
All Dak fans are preying that Jerry continues as he'll never move on.

Back to reality, dreamer... we have Jerry Jones as a GM.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I am confident in saying that most NFL GMs and Scouts would see a bigger difference in why Dak is a starter and Cooper is a backup.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Back to reality, dreamer... we have Jerry Jones as a GM.

Exactly and between Dak and Jerry this Annual Relevance over a winning roster will continue.

 

[JoeKing]

Exactly and between Dak and Jerry this Annual Relevance over a winning roster will continue.

Bingo!

 

[CowboyoWales]

I am confident in saying that most NFL GMs and Scouts would see a bigger difference in why Dak is a starter and Cooper is a backup.

They would also salivate over what they could do with saved CAP. I suppose this year is the year that teams see what can be done when they don't waste CAP on overpriced QB's.

 

[dfense]

Here is the difference I see.
Rush throws a very catchable ball. He has nice touch when needed. Dak has never had any touch. Took him 2 years to try and learn how to throw a fade to Dez in the endzone. Also the shuffling of the Oline has really been a positive upgrade. Just look at the run game now the Martin is out and Guyton is sharing time. Rush seems to have better protection in pass coverage now. You think Jerrah would learn watching the Deshaun Watson debacle.

 

[Jarntt]

There's definitely not 58 million dollars difference between the two.

That is the key point in a cap world. Dak is 10 times the QB Rush is. But the way this team has overvalued Dak and tied ourselves to him with another monster contract just proves they don't learn. Jerry is like a 9 year old kid who is always thinking the absolute most positive spin possible for his own players will occur every year. This last contract ties our hands and will do nothing but ensure we will see a few more years of the exact same results. It's not Dak vs Rush, It's Dak vs a Baker or a Darnold or someone like that plus $30M-$40M per year to spend on other players or a draft pick and $55M to spend on other players. They just can't see the forest through the trees.

 

[Blitzen]

You're ignoring the 800 lb gorilla in the room. The Cowboys are legally bound to pay Dak $60 million per year regardless of if Dak plays or not. That fact alone puts Dak as our QB1 over anyone for the foreseeable future. You admit Cooper is not better than Dak so I don't think you have a better point than the one I just made. The enormous difference that you don't seem to see is Dak's unescapable enormous contract. It can't be ignored and it's a done deal.

That’s true. I was not arguing that the team could or would cut him. The OP was stating he did not see some titanic difference in the two-in my opinion related to wins and losses.

In another post you speculate that the 12-5 teams could never make the playoffs with Cooper as the QB. They never tried, so we will never know. I speculate that the team likely makes the playoffs with Cooper every one of those seasons-perhaps with a worse regular season record. Green Bay made it last year at 9-8. The individuals that disagree see huge value in piling up points against bottom feeder squads, or are pretty butt hurt that Dak does not get more respect for his accomplishments on this board.