I knew Mike Jenkins was good, but damn...

[CowboyMcCoy]

Based on statistics I've seen Adam post, not so true.

But my heart tells me it's true.

 

[tyke1doe]

Jenkins > Deion

Child pulease.

 

[tyke1doe]

The year he entered the Draft I was a no doubt about it Antoine Cason fan because he was from here at the UA. Early on in the Draft process Jenkins was the no doubt about it #1 CB on most Draft sites. Then he started dropping because of the "he played at a small school" stigma.

One poster here, I think it might have been theogt, but I am not 100% sure, posted a stat that said Jenkins QB rating when he was thrown at that year was around 14.5. I know it was under 15.

I got a tip that the Cowboys wanted him really bad. Though I had been pimping Cason like the UA Homer that I am, the day before the Draft I told people that if Jenkins was there at 22 we were going to take him. Draft time and he was there at 22. We took Felix Jones. I gotta tell you, I was shocked.

Then when the Commissioner announced we had traded up I knew it was to make sure we got Jenkins. If you go back and listen to dcfanatic's podcasts, clear back in his rookie year I have been saying he has the best footwork I have seen in forever. You cannot wrong foot this kid. I was as angry as anyone at the non tackle against the Giants.

This year, he was the total package and he will only get better. Great pick by Dallas. Better than Cason. I'm not afraid to admit it.

I was a Cason homer too. How's he doing with San Diego anyway?

 

[theogt]

How do you like Tracy Porter now?

He had a really good season. Judging talent isn't perfect, but you make the decisions based on the information you have at the time. Based on the information pre-draft, I would not have drafted him 10 times out of 10.

It's like playing slot machines. I'll never play them because the odds aren't very good. But that doesn't mean you can't win money off one.

He played that route in the Super Bowl stupidly, however (or maybe the coverage called was just stupid). If Peyton doesn't have a brain fart, Porter gives up the game winning touchdown there (or would it have tied the game? can't remember).

 

[LatinMind]

Jenkins is what Newman was supposed to be. But there's another name on there that's interesting. Antonio cromartie but he's just a bad CB who does nothing.

 

[theogt]

Jenkins is what Newman was supposed to be. But there's another name on there that's interesting. Antonio cromartie but he's just a bad CB who does nothing.

They're really very different styles of cornerbacks.

 

[Hostile]

I was a Cason homer too. How's he doing with San Diego anyway?

Actually, very well. Well enough so that they are dangling Cromartie in a trade so they can start him. He played in their Nickel and Dime packages a lot. He has very good coverage skills and plays physical. Going to be all right.

I will still say though that Jenkins is playing better than he is and I was wrong, the Cowboys were right and took the better guy.

 

[Dodger]

Agreed. I know a lot of people complain about our corners playing so far off...

I've compained about that it seems like forever. Yet last season, and I don't have any stats to back this up, but...it sure appeared to me like Jenkins was not playing off the receiver as much as I've seen the Cowboys do in recent years. Anyone else notice this, or was I just imagining it?

 

[TNCowboy]

Well if Deion being thrown at only once per game was part of what made him great then wouldn't that be the case for Asomugha as well? Asomugha is great because he was thrown at half as many times as the second least frequently targeted CB (and that guy didn't even play 6 games).

I made the point in a prior post that he's one of the best CBs in the league. In fact, he's one of the best players period. Which sort of proves my point. Wasn't he like 20th on this chart?

You can't put #s on DBs, for the most part. Even hard #s like interceptions can be misleading as to how well someone is playing, let alone #s as guesstimated as these are.

 

[jobberone]

Nice first post.

 

[tomson75]

Jenkins is what Newman was supposed to be. But there's another name on there that's interesting. Antonio cromartie but he's just a bad CB who does nothing.

So I suppose you think D. Hall is pro bowler too...

 

[jterrell]

The year he entered the Draft I was a no doubt about it Antoine Cason fan because he was from here at the UA. Early on in the Draft process Jenkins was the no doubt about it #1 CB on most Draft sites. Then he started dropping because of the "he played at a small school" stigma.

One poster here, I think it might have been theogt, but I am not 100% sure, posted a stat that said Jenkins QB rating when he was thrown at that year was around 14.5. I know it was under 15.

I got a tip that the Cowboys wanted him really bad. Though I had been pimping Cason like the UA Homer that I am, the day before the Draft I told people that if Jenkins was there at 22 we were going to take him. Draft time and he was there at 22. We took Felix Jones. I gotta tell you, I was shocked.

Then when the Commissioner announced we had traded up I knew it was to make sure we got Jenkins. If you go back and listen to dcfanatic's podcasts, clear back in his rookie year I have been saying he has the best footwork I have seen in forever. You cannot wrong foot this kid. I was as angry as anyone at the non tackle against the Giants.

This year, he was the total package and he will only get better. Great pick by Dallas. Better than Cason. I'm not afraid to admit it.

I rated Jenkins first amongst the CBs that year just as most scouts had.
Jenkins fell because he wasn't disciplined in his play and took plays off. He simply was never tested at USF and got bored at times.

Cason just didn't have the same quickness or fluidity though he made a bazillion plays in college he always reminded me more of Quinton Jammer than anyone else. Ironic, huh.

I have been as bag a Jenkins fan as exists because I just really believe he has the makings of an elite CB for the next 10 years.

 

[jterrell]

So I suppose you think D. Hall is pro bowler too...

Yes, this year he was.

Hall has worlds of physical talent but has always played too inconsistently. He was by far Washington's best CB. He might be the first guy since Santana Moss who got to Washington and actually played better than he had previously.

So make Washington 2/100 in free agency.

 

[jterrell]

I made the point in a prior post that he's one of the best CBs in the league. In fact, he's one of the best players period. Which sort of proves my point. Wasn't he like 20th on this chart?

You can't put #s on DBs, for the most part. Even hard #s like interceptions can be misleading as to how well someone is playing, let alone #s as guesstimated as these are.

Asoumugha had a bad year. Really bad by his standards.

His numbers in previous years looked like Revis' this year.

This chart is consistent with performance and also with the team's defensive success. It is more than somewhat accurate.

 

[TNCowboy]

Asoumugha had a bad year. Really bad by his standards.

His numbers in previous years looked like Revis' this year.

This chart is consistent with performance and also with the team's defensive success. It is more than somewhat accurate.

According to whoever compiled the chart, he was thrown at a grand total of 22 times. Just over once per game. Unless he gave up an 80 yd TD on many of those 22 attempts, how did he have a really bad year? :laugh2:

Either the chart is garbage, or it isn't.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He had a really good season. Judging talent isn't perfect, but you make the decisions based on the information you have at the time. Based on the information pre-draft, I would not have drafted him 10 times out of 10.

It's like playing slot machines. I'll never play them because the odds aren't very good. But that doesn't mean you can't win money off one.

He played that route in the Super Bowl stupidly, however (or maybe the coverage called was just stupid). If Peyton doesn't have a brain fart, Porter gives up the game winning touchdown there (or would it have tied the game? can't remember).

This coming from the guy that said Chris Johnson was just speed and could not cut nor did he have vision. I mean who cared that 80% of his highlight runs were based on an impressive lateral cut behind the line.

I am sure you had a pet cat draft pick and then bashed Porter because of it because thats what you do. You certainly bashed CJ because of Rice.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He had a really good season. Judging talent isn't perfect, but you make the decisions based on the information you have at the time. Based on the information pre-draft, I would not have drafted him 10 times out of 10.

It's like playing slot machines. I'll never play them because the odds aren't very good. But that doesn't mean you can't win money off one.

He played that route in the Super Bowl stupidly, however (or maybe the coverage called was just stupid). If Peyton doesn't have a brain fart, Porter gives up the game winning touchdown there (or would it have tied the game? can't remember).

Which is why I don't take too much stock in how a player performs in college. I look to their attributes on the field more than production and combine times. For most colleges, coaching is ****.

But when I looked at Porter, I saw all the necessary attributes that would serve him well in the pros if he just got some professional coaching to go along with it.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

http://stats-dont-lie.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-cornerback-allows-lowest-qb-rating.html
He allowed the 4th lowest QB Rating Has he replaced Newman as our #1 CB?

Who are you Mr. Kennedy?

And do you come in peace from beyond?

 

[Venger]

Jenkins > Deion