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Bluestang;2970979 said:
I guess the team can do no wrong in your eyes?
Are you changing the theme of your very own thread from "when to panic" to "premature 2009 team evaluation"?
 

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DallasEast;2970989 said:
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There's your answer.

Disregard how well the team may or may not be doing by that date.



59 posts later and someone answer's my question. Thanks.
 

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Bluestang;2971063 said:
59 posts later and someone answer's my question. Thanks.
That's the logical trend based upon your percentages of when you should press the panic button. I wonder how many others feel exactly as you do?
 

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Bluestang;2971063 said:
59 posts later and someone answer's my question. Thanks.
That probably says more about your question than the answers.
 

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theogt;2971078 said:
That probably says more about your question than the answers.


it's replies like this that make this board what it is...
 

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DallasEast;2971075 said:
That's the logical trend based upon your percentages of when you should press the panic button. I wonder how many others feel exactly as you do?


I could be the only one but it doesn't bother me if I am.
 

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I think it's time to push the panic button when you decide that Romo isn't the guy. And that's not a knock against Romo, it's just a way to look at a QB driven league. I'm personally convinced he's not the guy even though I like most of the rest of the talent. I think there could be better coaching, but since I'm not a believer in Romo (unless he proves me otherwise, beyond a shadow of a doubt) I think we need to look elsewhere and I don't believe the Cowboys will do that.



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Bluestang;2971094 said:
I could be the only one but it doesn't bother me if I am.
Based on the postgame reaction last Sunday night, it would be very safe to assume that you have plenty of company in that regard. Heck, at least you haven't hit the panic button. Yet. Many others already have.
 

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DallasEast;2971107 said:
Based on the postgame reaction last Sunday night, it would be very safe to assume that you have plenty of company in that regard. Heck, at least you haven't hit the panic button. Yet. Many others already have.


Alot of it has to do with the fact that this team preached and preached during the offseason on the things they were going to work on for this season. Then on Sunday night those same exact things they worked to cut down on came back to haunt them and we lose a division game. Worst part about it is that we lose by 2pts to a team that appeared we had dominated all night.
 

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Bluestang;2971128 said:
Alot of it has to do with the fact that this team preached and preached during the offseason on the things they were going to work on for this season. Then on Sunday night those same exact things they worked to cut down on came back to haunt them and we lose a division game. Worst part about it is that we lose by 2pts to a team that appeared we had dominated all night.
...and?

Two games have been played. If people wish to disregard how fourteen additional games may play out, that is their prerogative, but it's highly doubtful that type of irrationality will influence a significant portion of the fanbase to adopt that same perspective.

The team has areas which it must improve upon so that it can be competitive enough to compete for a postseason berth and/or excel in the postseason. They have enough time to shore up those areas. That deadline has not past yet. It's not even close.

As of right now, the team can look back on its 1-1 record where turnovers accounted for 24 points, the difference between the previously mentioned record and 2-0. Contrary to what some believe, turnovers are not a certainty. A perceived trend in regards to turnovers does not mean that they will negatively impact the team's success during the next 14 or more games.

In my opinion, proper team evaluation cannot depend upon what frightens you. It can only be based on what the team does well and whether there can be room for improvement in the areas which the team has struggled with so far this season.

It is not set in stone that Felix Jones will account for minus three points per game due to fumbling a kick return. It is impractical to believe that Tony Romo will throw off target enough to gift the opposing defense with 21 additional points per game.

In short, panic isn't the solution in a 16 game season after two games. It's unrealistic.
 

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DallasEast;2971147 said:
...and?

Two games have been played. If people wish to disregard how fourteen additional games may play out, that is their prerogative, but it's highly doubtful that type of irrationality will influence a significant portion of the fanbase to adopt that same perspective.

The team has areas which it must improve upon so that it can be competitive enough to compete for a postseason berth and/or excel in the postseason. They have enough time to shore up those areas. That deadline has not past yet. It's not even close.

As of right now, the team can look back on its 1-1 record where turnovers accounted for 24 points, the difference between the previously mentioned record and 2-0. Contrary to what some believe, turnovers are not a certainty. A perceived trend in regards to turnovers does not mean that they will negatively impact the team's success during the next 14 or more games.

In my opinion, proper team evaluation cannot depend upon what frightens you. It can only be based on what the team does well and whether there can be room for improvement in the areas which the team has struggled with so far this season.

It is not set in stone that Felix Jones will account for minus three points per game due to fumbling a kick return. It is impractical to believe that Tony Romo will throw off target enough to gift the opposing defense with 21 additional points per game.

In short, panic isn't the solution in a 16 game season after two games. It's unrealistic.


But the sloppy play in both games is consistent with how this team underperforms time after time. After these last few years I'm fed up about it. How is that this team ON PAPER is a contender but always comes up short on the field?
 

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dadymat;2970531 said:
you do realize if it weren't for 3 ints and a fumble we would have CRUSHED the G-men ...right?...we dominated ever area of the game...except turnovers ..Tony wont have many of those games

He won't? That's good to know. I'll start pencilling in some more wins.
 

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Big Dakota;2970805 said:
He's too expensive:rolleyes:

I know. I hate it that 20% of my paycheck goes towards paying Ware's salary. Wait, or is that taxes?
 

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Bluestang;2971180 said:
But the sloppy play in both games is consistent with how this team underperforms time after time. After these last few years I'm fed up about it. How is that this team ON PAPER is a contender but always comes up short on the field?
In 2009, the team did not 'come up short' against the Buccaneers. The team did 'come up short' against the Giants, but only after they capitalized on four turnovers for 24 points in a 33-31 game.

'Always' doesn't apply to this season. You will give up on the team in late October. Others already have. Regardless of what will actually happen between now and Falcons game, some will join you by that time and more will jump aboard the bandwagon afterwards. That is both yours' and others' right. Good luck with that.

I'm tired of the crying. Exiting thread now.
 

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DallasEast;2971215 said:
In 2009, the team did not 'come up short' against the Buccaneers. The team did 'come up short' against the Giants, but only after they capitalized on four turnovers for 24 points in a 33-31 game.

'Always' doesn't apply to this season. You will give up on the team in late October. Others already have. Regardless of what will actually happen between now and Falcons game, some will join you by that time and more will jump aboard the bandwagon afterwards. That is both yours' and others' right. Good luck with that.

I'm tired of the crying. Exiting thread now.

Wait...don't go yet. There is an awful lot of complaining and giving up going on but I would like to point out that it doesn't make much sense to say the Giants won "only after they capitalized on four turnovers...".

We were last in the league last year in giveaways with a 2.1 per game average. Playing well 'except for all the turnovers' is a really, really big problem. It is arguably the biggest problem we have.

I'm not giving up like the OP. But there's little evidence we've done anything to cut down on the turnovers (admittedly after only two games.)

It's a legitimate worry.
 

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Gemini Dolly;2970908 said:
Im glad I missed the trade Ware thread. LOL. Thats when you know we've hit rock bottom.

I stepped in and out of that thread very quickly.
 

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fanfromvirginia;2971318 said:
Wait...don't go yet. There is an awful lot of complaining and giving up going on but I would like to point out that it doesn't make much sense to say the Giants won "only after they capitalized on four turnovers...".

We were last in the league last year in giveaways with a 2.1 per game average. Playing well 'except for all the turnovers' is a really, really big problem. It is arguably the biggest problem we have.

I'm not giving up like the OP. But there's little evidence we've done anything to cut down on the turnovers (admittedly after only two games.)

It's a legitimate worry.

It's like the WP excuse disease has hit the members of this forum...I haven't given up on this team just yet but it's hard not to seeing the same old mental errors from last yr.
 
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