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Again, such a preposterous claim

Name ANY objective metric by which the product on the field is worse now compared to decades past?

Quarterbacks are better by every available metric. Receivers drop fewer passes. Kickers miss far fewer kicks at every distance (kicking is almost automatic now) and convert far more long field goals. Punting is better than it has ever been. Pre snap penalties are lower league wide than they once were. The athletes are just much better and more refined.

The only thing that is “worse” is the average number of penalties per game and that’s a function of more things being labeled as fouls than at any point in the past.
The overall game is worse on every level. What we are watching now would've been mocked and ridiculed 20 years ago. No football purist will agree with you.
 

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The overall game is worse on every level. What we are watching now would've been mocked and ridiculed 20 years ago. No football purist will agree with you.

So you have no objective standard by which to defend your claim, while I listed half a dozen just off the top of my head. Cool.
 

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Just because our coaches don’t doesn’t mean they don’t elsewhere.

It’s most readily seen at the college level though admittedly. Elite college coaches remain complete autocrats who rule over their programs as kings and dictators. Nick Saban and Dabo Swinney have more power at their respective universities than the school president, BOR or chancellor.
NFL players make more money than their bosses. Almost all of them. Unfortunately, they often wield that power over their franchises when they get that money, and the teams have to kowtow to them.

It's about to change in college, too. A&M had the best recruiting class in the country this year, but half those kids will be in the portal in a few months. College coaches are now going to have to kiss their players butts to get them to stay, and NIL money will be used to lure players from one school to another.

Then add the nature of kids today, many of which have absolutely no respect whatsoever for authority and run from anyone who tries to use it on them.
 

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Nice to see College athletes finally having the option to move about not having to lose a year of eligibility.

We might eventually need for these College athletes to sign contracts or commitments of some kind .
 

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Again, such a preposterous claim

Name ANY objective metric by which the product on the field is worse now compared to decades past?

Quarterbacks are better by every available metric. Receivers drop fewer passes. Kickers miss far fewer kicks at every distance (kicking is almost automatic now) and convert far more long field goals. Punting is better than it has ever been. Pre snap penalties are lower league wide than they once were. The athletes are just much better and more refined.

The only thing that is “worse” is the average number of penalties per game and that’s a function of more things being labeled as fouls than at any point in the past.
The quarterback position in the NFL is disastrously bad today. These guys absolutely suck. When Brady and Rodgers hang it up, there will be about 2-3 left. Last year's rookie QBs all are terrible, outside of maybe Mac Jones, but he's iffy at best.

Tackling is atrocious. Game situation awareness is non-existent. Practice is virtually illegal, so injuries are sky high.

The game is living off its past. The actual football is terrible.
 

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QB position is evolving. But there are still great talents coming out like Mahomes , Wilson , Burrows and Herbert to name a few . Great talents poised to become the next generation of Elite QB’s .
 

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This is not a Romo thread. This is a Bill Parcells thread. Fast forward to the Parcells portion of the video.

Can't do this anymore. Now you have to hug them and blow sunshine up their butts, or they'll quit on you. That's why so many coaches now look like 28-year-old IT guys.

Building character and discipline is a lost art in football. The sloppy nonsense of today gets hard to watch.


Every player is different...it's all psychology....some players need to be ripped and others need to be hugged....you have to know their backgrounds and what buttons to push. Not everyone is the same, you can't treat them the same....things have changed.
 

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Every player is different...it's all psychology....some players need to be ripped and others need to be hugged....you have to know their backgrounds and what buttons to push. Not everyone is the same, you can't treat them the same....things have changed.
Translation.....?

Soft.
 

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The quarterback position in the NFL is disastrously bad today. These guys absolutely suck. When Brady and Rodgers hang it up, there will be about 2-3 left. Last year's rookie QBs all are terrible, outside of maybe Mac Jones, but he's iffy at best.

Tackling is atrocious. Game situation awareness is non-existent. Practice is virtually illegal, so injuries are sky high.

The game is living off its past. The actual football is terrible.

Quarterback play is significantly better league wide than it was at any point prior to the rule changes of the mid-2000s. Even most of the “good” quarterbacks were not good by modern standards. This is true both statistically, and by objective physical traits such as ball velocity.

Players are just better trained, have better access to nutrition, and the evaluation process better selects and finds players now. It’s completely absurd to claim there has every been a time prior to this which the skill at every position was better as a whole. The worst team in the league today would beat the 1989 San Francisco 49ers like a drum, simply due to the dramatic difference in strength, speed, nutrition, training, etc. It’s barely even the same sport the skill level is so much greater now.

Injuries are no more common now than they ever were, guys just sit more often for things they once played through. And for good reason, as things like concussions are far more serious than we once thought.

Tackljng technique is much better than it was in the past, when players use to regularly lead with their helmet. This has improved significantly with the emphasis on it.

Again, this is all just flawed perception on your part. By any objective measure players are just flat better today than at any point in the past. The issue is what you believe football should be is no longer what it is. That is not the same thing as it being worse in any objective way.
 

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Quarterback play is significantly better league wide than it was at any point prior to the rule changes of the mid-2000s. Even most of the “good” quarterbacks were not good by modern standards. This is true both statistically, and by objective physical traits such as ball velocity.

Players are just better trained, have better access to nutrition, and the evaluation process better selects and finds players now. It’s completely absurd to claim there has every been a time prior to this which the skill at every position was better as a whole. The worst team in the league today would beat the 1989 San Francisco 49ers like a drum, simply due to the dramatic difference in strength, speed, nutrition, training, etc.

Injuries are no more common now than they ever were, guys just sit more often for things they once played through. And for good reason, as things like concussions are far more serious than we once thought.

Tackljng technique is much better than it was in the past, when players use to regularly lead with their helmet. This has improved significantly with the emphasis on it.

Again, this is all just flawed perception on your part. By any objective measure players are just flat better today than at any point in the past. The issue is what you believe football should be is no longer what it is. That is not the same thing as it being worse in any objective way.
Wow. Wow.

Absolutely delusional and wrong.

LOL
 

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Yes sir....times have changed. Coaches have to adjust too
...I miss those days, but I adjusted like all good coaches had too....
As an aside, I haven't raised my kids in "today's" manner, and they are lapping the field with their peers. Kids today are potted plants.
 

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This is not a Romo thread. This is a Bill Parcells thread. Fast forward to the Parcells portion of the video.

Can't do this anymore. Now you have to hug them and blow sunshine up their butts, or they'll quit on you. That's why so many coaches now look like 28-year-old IT guys.

Building character and discipline is a lost art in football. The sloppy nonsense of today gets hard to watch.


Miss Jimmy and Bill !
 

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I miss 1 minute ago when I didn’t know this thread existed

I miss the time when older people didn’t talk about how awesome everything used to be and how it all sucks now, and how tough they are and how everyone these days is a wimp. Oh wait, that time never existed!!! They’ve been doing it forever!!!
 

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As an aside, I haven't raised my kids in "today's" manner, and they are lapping the field with their peers. Kids today are potted plants.
My daughter graduated from college with a triple major at the age of 20.....so, I've done the same.
 

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My daughter graduated from college with a triple major at the age of 20.....so, I've done the same.

My daughter is 25 and is already a CFO for a real estate company. She's smart, but mostly she's just a hard worker. She says when 5:01 pm hits, she's the only person under the age of 35 still in the office. LOL
 

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I miss 1 minute ago when I didn’t know this thread existed

I miss the time when older people didn’t talk about how awesome everything used to be and how it all sucks now, and how tough they are and how everyone these days is a wimp. Oh wait, that time never existed!!! They’ve been doing it forever!!!
Yes, it did exist. People today are generally lazy, uncommitted, dumb, and useless.
 
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