I started to have hope for Dak

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disagree, moving on..

Lol we aren’t moving on for a couple more years most likely and eventually you’ll just have to concede that I was right.

I mean I actually had to argue with people about Jason Garrett not being a good coach on here so it’s no surprise that people would think we can pay Dak and win a title.
 

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Lol we aren’t moving on for a couple more years most likely and eventually you’ll just have to concede that I was right.

I mean I actually had to argue with people about Jason Garrett not being a good coach on here so it’s no surprise that people would think we can pay Dak and win a title.
NEXT, i said I disagree MOVE ON!
 

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He had a find D most of his career and an excellent coach. He was also tough and remarkably injury free

Of course he was going to compile stats.

tell me oh great defender of Eli
Was he EVER top 5 in any year?

Was he ever even top TEN in any year in passing?

He won the first MVP because of the Helmet play; his stats were not all that
His second MVP was more of a case that the QB will get the benefit of the doubt in most SB MVP votes
It is what it is. How many other QB’s in NFL history are you bashing who finished in top 10 in yards and TD’s? Just providing some push back.
 

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..boy, we sure we're wrong. lol.. I was on same boat. After Tampa, I felt Dak flipped the switch.

Than we saw a ROOK out play him, with basic fundamentals. Im still stunned.
 

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The exact moment Romo lost me was the "If the worst thing that happens to me..." speech. I knew right then and there that it was over.
Romo and Dak were alike in that there were moments of greatness which made you buy in.

7 seasons of each should be a big enough sample size to create an informed opinion of any player

the bottom line is that if one’s quarterback has to have the 85 Bears defense incarnate to win a championship they shouldn’t command 20% of the salary cap…..it just doesn’t work that way
 

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What happened was the team improved WHILE the QB improved at the same time. Then once Jimmy left the end wasn’t far behind. The Cowboys in 88/89 were not a good team. 96 and beyond. The down years of a dynasty who just went on a prolific run.
Agreed.

After being so numb, I got a lil vulnerable and that sucks.
 

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After Tampa, I thought “hey he might just pull an Eli Manning”

I don’t remember Eli having big names the super bowls he won, and we had a few.

To me Eli was very average and he still managed to step up.

Dak just can’t do it. He’s just not that guy

I just hope Jerry does not look at the money and continue to ride this guy. We need to look at the draft, FA ect

Because the way our D played any other QB comes away with points. Even if it’s just 3
Pull and Eli Manning? You mean get lucky?

Did you expect the Cowboys to beat a better team on the road like the Niners? Thats on you, not Dak. Very predictable.
 

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Romo and Dak were alike in that there were moments of greatness which made you buy in.

7 seasons of each should be a big enough sample size to create an informed opinion of any player

the bottom line is that if one’s quarterback has to have the 85 Bears defense incarnate to win a championship they shouldn’t command 20% of the salary cap…..it just doesn’t work that way
Romo and Dak are alike in that neither has had the proper GM, Coaching, and talent around them.

Lets just say for a minute that the Cowboys win the Niners game. Do you really think they are beating the Eagles and Cincy without Pollard?

The season was over the moment Pollard went down and Zeke was our only viable RB. Toast.
 

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Pull and Eli Manning? You mean get lucky?

Did you expect the Cowboys to beat a better team on the road like the Niners? Thats on you, not Dak. Very predictable.
Yeah lightning struck twice for Eli. What about Dak?
 

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The good news is all of the new Elite QB’s are in the AFC.

That means we have a shot going up against lesser QB’s in NFC. As bad as Dak played we were still only one score away. That’s truly amazing IMO.

In the end with Dak we were still 3rd best team in NFC. Not bad and something to build on since we don’t really have any other choice . Draft another RB, WR and keep shoring up defense .

We definitely need a new RB. We also need another CB. A speedy WR would help too. A run stopper would be amazing. We might even need a new kicker. However, none of that is going to help Dak read the field better. At some point he has to perform. We really need to start drafting a QB early for development though. We need new options for when Dak wets the bed again, and he will.
 

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We definitely need a new RB. We also need another CB. A speedy WR would help too. A run stopper would be amazing. We might even need a new kicker. However, none of that is going to help Dak read the field better. At some point he has to perform. We really need to start drafting a QB early for development though. We need new options for when Dak wets the bed again, and he will.
I’m not sure our dysfunctional ownership sees Dak as the core issue many fans do. Instead they see him as the one bringing them to the alter with 13 wins and a playoff victory. Whether he’s enough to take us further doesn’t really impact their decision making. A season like this year is successful for them.
 

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..boy, we sure we're wrong. lol.. I was on same boat. After Tampa, I felt Dak flipped the switch.

Than we saw a ROOK out play him, with basic fundamentals. Im still stunned.
Actually, it's kind of odd. I gave Dak the benefit of the doubt however it wasn't like we had a choice. I wanted him gone before the big contract.
 

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I’m not sure our dysfunctional ownership sees Dak as the core issue many fans do. Instead they see him as the one bringing them to the alter with 13 wins and a playoff victory. Whether he’s enough to take us further doesn’t really impact their decision making. A season like this year is successful for them.
The team played well enough to win. I'm really proud of the defense barring a couple of plays by Diggs. The O-line did a great job giving Dak time. It was plain and obvious who the problem was on the field, unlike other times. In the past there were legitimate reasons for Dak not to do as well and for the loss, like the 2016 playoffs. Last year the entire team choked, including Dak. This time it was almost purely Dak.

I'm aware of the noose that is our ownership. I think you might be mistaken though. They might be fully aware that Dak is a problem now. It might not matter anyway because more than anything Jerry hates to admit a mistake. He hates paying someone and then not getting his "money's worth." So benching Dak is unlikely to happen. Cutting Dak will never happen. Why? That contract. Either would be Jerry admitting to a mistake. That narcissist is incapable of that.
 

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The team played well enough to win. I'm really proud of the defense barring a couple of plays by Diggs. The O-line did a great job giving Dak time. It was plain and obvious who the problem was on the field, unlike other times. In the past there were legitimate reasons for Dak not to do as well and for the loss, like the 2016 playoffs. Last year the entire team choked, including Dak. This time it was almost purely Dak.

I'm aware of the noose that is our ownership. I think you might be mistaken though. They might be fully aware that Dak is a problem now. It might not matter anyway because more than anything Jerry hates to admit a mistake. He hates paying someone and then not getting his "money's worth." So benching Dak is unlikely to happen. Cutting Dak will never happen. Why? That contract. Either would be Jerry admitting to a mistake. That narcissist is incapable of that.
Well , if you’re unwilling to change or admit you made a mistake it doesn’t really matter if you see it or not. As a matter of fact I’d argue it’s even worse than not seeing it.

But I think they will attempt to spin the positives. And our first road playoff win in 3 decades and back to back 12 win playoff appearances is much for these fools to promote.
 

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Romo and Dak are alike in that neither has had the proper GM, Coaching, and talent around them.

Lets just say for a minute that the Cowboys win the Niners game. Do you really think they are beating the Eagles and Cincy without Pollard?

The season was over the moment Pollard went down and Zeke was our only viable RB. Toast.
Now that is a possibility. Poor coaching and poor management. It all makes sense.
 

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Well , if you’re unwilling to change or admit you made a mistake it doesn’t really matter if you see it or not. As a matter of fact I’d argue it’s even worse than not seeing it.

But I think they will attempt to spin the positives. And our first road playoff win in 3 decades and back to back 12 win playoff appearances is much for these fools to promote.
We have ample evidence that Jerry won't admit to mistakes until forced to... like with Garrett and several players contracts over the years. They'll go back to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic and ignore the iceberg that is the real problems of the team. I agree with you. They'll spin. What would help a lot even if they kept Dak as the starter? Drafting a QB in the first or second round. It would show an acknowledgement of a problem and a plan to address it.
 
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