I Think There Is An 85%+ Chance Demarco Stays

[Dave_in-NC]

I don't get why some are so convinced keeping him is a good thing. As has been well said previously, he leaves too many yards on the field, fumbles (which may have lost the Green Bay game), and has been relatively healthy only 1 year (still broke his hand). And he has tons on wear on his treads this year. I would rather not have him back at any price so we can get a faster back with vision that doesn't fumble.

He's also turned a lot of 2 yard plays into five yard plays.

 

[nablives]

I see a lot of conjecture on your part.

The fact is he wasn't as good over the last month of the season.

At the end of the day, it's a completely subjective perspective.

 

[Broges74]

At the end of the day, it's a completely subjective perspective.

Geek FIGHT!!!

 

[nablives]

Look at the FA RB contracts the last couple of years. Chris Johnson, Reggie Bush, Steven Jackson, etc. none of them got deals better than 4 mill per year. Things have changed since AP got his mega deal. Fact is, AP WON'T get any offers better than 4 mill per. Not with his baggage. So why not sign with his favorite team and where he has dreamed of playing? I think 2 years/8 mill will do it. Maybe it takes 3 years/12 mill. And it's worth it.

It's not a coincidence our last offer to Murray is the same contract that AP will take.

Can you explain how that process would transpire, starting with MN having him under contract for the next 3 years as of right now?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I see a lot of conjecture on your part.

The fact is he wasn't as good over the last month of the season.

We don't go 13-5 with out him. His fumble wasn't the sole reason for losing in GB like many claim.
Rodgers staying clean, missed FG , and "The non catch" were all reasons we lost.
Murray averaged just about five yards a carry. How is that non productive?
Sure some teams loaded up and stopped him but we still won those games because they loaded up to stop him.
They picked the wrong poison.

 

[AbeBeta]

The 90's team didn't have the identity of fumbling...Jimmy may not have cut him, being no FA back then, but he damn sure wouldn't be back either, if he had no contract.
This is not a knock on Garrett or by no means a comparison either.

Emmitt Smith fumbled 55 times in regular season and 4 times in postseason as a Cowboy. In his first 4 years he had a whopping 27 total fumbles. Murray has 14.

Facts are important

 

[Nirvana]

Can you explain how that process would transpire, starting with MN having him under contract for the next 3 years as of right now?

Peterson has a salary cap hit of 15.4 million for 2015. It isn't a stretch to think the Vikings will release him to get free from that. In fact, it's very likely. They would save 13 million dollars. They could then sign a FA RB and have a lot left over.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

We don't go 13-5 with out him. His fumble wasn't the sole reason for losing in GB like many claim.
Rodgers staying clean, missed FG , and "The non catch" were all reasons we lost.
Murray averaged just about five yards a carry. How is that non productive?
Sure some teams loaded up and stopped him but we still won those games because they loaded up to stop him.
They picked the wrong poison.

No one said Murray wasn't important. The question is how important is he?

I know the one game that Romo missed and the other game that he (Romo) missed part of, the Cowboys lost.

I don't think the Cowboys need an 1,800 yard back to be successful.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Murray is not going to duplicate his 1,845 yard season next year.

Look at his production in the second half of this season - fell off quite a lot.

Tired out and teams figured him out more.

He is still a good complete back but we need more speed back there.

He left too many yards and balls on the field.

Which means that if he stays here they will limit his load. They should have limited his load in the first place and tried to keep him fresh. I thought we used him too much. No back should run for more than 30 times a game.

 

[fifaguy]

Some of you seem to think its a near certainty that Murray is leaving. I think the exact opposite. Murray helps give this team the same type of identity that the 90s teams had, an identity that Garrett has worked very hard to duplicate. The added value that Murray brings to this team as an identity-creator cannot be overstated. Smartly, Garrett recognizes this and is a VERY strong supporter of Murray. I also believe that Murray desperately wants to stay. He has wisely said "no comment" when asked how much he wants to stay with the Cowboys, but do not mistake that "no comment" for apathy. Murray is a smart man, he fully recognizes the added value a player can gain from playing for the most recognized team in American sports. From Jimmy to Aikman to Irvin to Woodson to Johnston, the top jobs in today's sports media are littered with Cowboys players from the 90s era and that is no coincidence. I think he also realizes that Romo is one of the only QBs in the league that can truly get a team to the SB, they are far more rare than many want to admit. And of course, he can look to history and see what happens to players like Alvin Harper when they take more money to play elsewhere. They become irrelevant. And that is the worst possible career move for any player.

Given the intense desire for important people on both sides of the aisle to get this done, I think it is far more likely that Murray stay, to the point where I would say its a near surety. We'll see how good I am at reading the tea leaves.

great, but have you worked out the numbers re Dez, etc.?

 

[DFWJC]

85% sure seems incredibly optimistic.
But,hey, we could use a little of that at times.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

At the end of the day, it's a completely subjective perspective.

Yeah, that's the one... Subjective.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

No one said Murray wasn't important. The question is how important is he?

I know the one game that Romo missed and the other game that he (Romo) missed part of, the Cowboys lost.

I don't think the Cowboys need an 1,800 yard back to be successful.

No they don't. But you can't compare what a team does against us when Romos not in a game. Weedon isn't a threat at the High school level. Of course you simply have to stop the run then.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

No they don't. But you can't compare what a team does against us when Romos not in a game. Weedon isn't a threat at the High school level. Of course you simply have to stop the run then.

The point I was trying to make is that there are several "key" parts to this offense.

Murray being just one of those.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Murray gone is a foregone conclusion . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . just like Marinelli was gone to Tampa, uh, until he wasnt.

Why is Murray gone? Oh, ya know, the RB's available in the draft and on the market combined with the idea that RB's just dont get the big $$$$ anymore. All of this means the COWBOYS wont pay him more than he is worth. BUT, somehow with all the circumstances indicating the COWBOYS wont overpay for him, we are assured that some other team will ignore all the other RB's available in this RB lower pay era and fork out millions for a guy that has only played one full season healthy, and on top of that behind arguably the best OL in football.

Do you guys even think before you post?

When has Jerry EVER let a key player in his prime walk?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Murray gone is a foregone conclusion . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . just like Marinelli was gone to Tampa, uh, until he wasnt.

Why is Murray gone? Oh, ya know, the RB's available in the draft and on the market combined with the idea that RB's just dont get the big $$$$ anymore. All of this means the COWBOYS wont pay him more than he is worth. BUT, somehow with all the circumstances indicating the COWBOYS wont overpay for him, we are assured that some other team will ignore all the other RB's available in this RB lower pay era and fork out millions for a guy that has only played one full season healthy, and on top of that behind arguably the best OL in football.

Do you guys even think before you post?

When has Jerry EVER let a key player in his prime walk?

Over 6000 posts and your asking this question?

I agree with your post though.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The point I was trying to make is that there are several "key" parts to this offense.

Murray being just one of those.

And I don't think any of those parts are as easily replicable as some do. Some times it's just how well they work with each other,
not just a plug and play situation.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

And I don't think any of those parts are as easily replicable as some do. Some times it's just how well they work with each other,
not just a plug and play situation.

The challenge is that the are some "plug and play" parts and there are some that aren't.

I guess we're all going to have to trust the Cowboys to make the right decision.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The challenge is that the are some "plug and play" parts and there are some that aren't.

I guess we're all going to have to trust the Cowboys to make the right decision.

As long as it isn't just on Jerry, I'm ok with it.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The biggest thing Murray has going for him is Garrett, who you can tell through his press conferences really wants him back.

Or is that Garrett saying the company line? I'm completely serious.

Last night after dinner my wife asked "how did that taste?" to which I responded "very good" withi a little extra nod of approval. See what I mean?