I think there's a really good chance that Jaylon Smith will play this year

[thisiscowboyscountry]

He should sit the year even if his nerve comes back and could potentially play later in the year. This is a very complex injury and recovery time shouldnt be rushed. The acl alone is a 6 to 9 month recovery, and youre also dealing with nerve issues which doctors know very little on how it will fully respond. Im not sure what the liklihood of reinjury is, but these nerve issues can be very tricky and would hate to rush him back and put him at risk for reinjury. The lb position take a lot of hits.

 

[J_Allen]

because all the reports were that he would not play this year ....... and the doctor who did the surgery works for Jerry Jones.

Well it's not Jerry's fault what someone else writes and what does Mara have to do with it?

 

[zrinkill]

Well it's not Jerry's fault what someone else writes and what does Mara have to do with it?

I see you don't get the joke ....... I will walk away

 

[J_Allen]

I see you don't get the joke ....... I will walk away

What's the joke?

 

[plymkr]

Well it's not Jerry's fault what someone else writes and what does Mara have to do with it?

In theory yes, it's not Jerry's fault what other people report. In theory, an uncapped year means you can sign players to big money deals without it counting against the cap. But Mara has Goodell under some mind control, or pictures of him, and he got Dallas and Washington in trouble for paying players during the uncapped year. So Mara led the charge for Dallas and Washington, two division rivals, to be punished by taking salary cap money away from us for two years and Goodell agreed and signed off on it.

So I can see were Mara would have his feelings hurt if Dallas got the steal of the draft and Dallas' doctors performed the surgery and the expectation for him to play would be for 2017. Mara would pull the puppet strings again with Goodell and probably get us draft picks taken away.

 

[BlindFaith]

From what Ive read is that its basically two months per inch. One month of regeneration and then a month of non regeneration. There are 6 inches of nerve to be healed. Thats where the 12 month date came from and why some domt think he would play this year.

Jerry has said that he will be very reluctant to IR him because he could still play this year. There are foot prosthesis that can be used to assist his foot in regards to playing. Hes actually using one now for training. Hes also said that the feeling is coming back every day.

 

[lqmac1]

a question for the PUP experts. How long can you keep a guy on PUP without converting him to IR

8 weeks, I believe

 

[Frosty]

I think there's a really good chance that Jaylon Smith will play, in fact, if the Cowboys are thinking ahead here, Jaylon will sleep in a hyperbaric chamber every night from now until his nerve completely regenerates. That makes his recovery happen ASAP.

That's why I think he will play this year.... thoughts???

WoW. Superman lives. I got stop an put on my boots cause the **** is getting deep in the zone. Out of control Honerism somebody help this kid

 

[Zekeats]

No chance.

Even if he's healed by the season, I suspect they'd hold him out as precaution.

Once the nerve comes back there is not much need to hold him out unless his leg is too weak. I hope that nerve does come back. My father has had that drop foot for 2+ years now.

 

[Zordon]

I cannot think of a scenario where we would want him to play this year.

If we're in the playoffs, then we made it without him and should probably proceed without him considering the studying/practicing he will need to do to catch up.

If we're out of the playoff chase, then we obviously let him continue to rest and heal.

 

[hra8700]

The feeling coming back is not relevant because peroneal nerve palsy is primarily a motor palsy. We don't know his emg results but at about 18 months if it was a complete palsy there is a 25% chance of him making a full recovery. If it is incomplete that is about 75%. But that is for normal people who just need to walk. Whether those recovery rates mean an NFL caliber athlete can return to form is not clear. And I don't think anyone in the NFL has ever played with an afo so unclear if he will be able to play at all if he continues to not have motor strength

 

[visionary]

Right but even in the one inch per month scenario, that means he should be healed by June or July. That's my disconnect and what I don't get.

This is not a math equation
This is medicine
There is very little that is black and white, it's mostly grey
The doctor can't tell you what he does not know

Pick is already made
Let's wait and see and hope for the best

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

From what I understand he's ahead of schedule with his rehab. But even with the nerve "sleeping", he's ahead of schedule with recovering from the nerve damage. If I read the reports right, he's hopeful to gain an inch of nerve recovery a month. The doctors told him not expect anything from the nerve for 3 months post operation. In early march he started getting feeling back and his knee is tinkling which is a good sign that the nerve will heal. From what I read and understand he started getting sensations in his knee before doctors expected him to. So it's looking pretty positive.

I wish I could read about his recovery from a non-biased source. Some sources I read from gives the impression he can play this year, some other non-cowboy sources say he won't play this year.

I wish the team doctor would hold a press conference about it, or do a write up about it. Jaylon says he'll play, he says he feels good, but all players say that. Fingers crossed

Man, if I'm peeing out my knee, I'm not coming back any time soon...

 

[DTown214]

None of us are doctors so we don't know when he'll physically be ready enough to play without the danger of re-injuring it. They may say the time table is 8-10 months or whatever but everyone heals differently. And I'd be willing to bet a top-flight athletic freak like Jaylon Smith is gonna heal a whole hell of a lot faster than let's say a 50 year old man who fell down the staircase. Apparently Jaylon is already way ahead of schedule so he could realistically be back by November or December. But once again, none of us know where he'll be in his recovery at that point. There could be setbacks. Just let the kid heal and he'll come back when he's physically ready to and when the doctors have cleared him.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

Right but even in the one inch per month scenario, that means he should be healed by June or July. That's my disconnect and what I don't get.

Let's not forget he tore his ACL and MCL. To fully recover from these injuries usually takes a full year. I realize many players play before that year is through, but they are not at full strength with their leg muscles and often suffer other injuries compensating for this. Sit him for the year.

 

[BlindFaith]

Once the nerve comes back there is not much need to hold him out unless his leg is too weak. I hope that nerve does come back. My father has had that drop foot for 2+ years now.

His leg is back to the same size as the other one. We've all heard about the leg presses and squats. Strength wont be an issue. Getting full mobility of the foot is.

And if hes capable of running, jumping and cutting why not let him play? The knee itself will be structurally fine and he wont be in any danger of hurting it.

An 80 percent Smith would be better than a 50 percent out of shape uninterested McClain.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

Guys you might as well just say, "We will just have to wait." Personal experience with my wife's nerve damage says it's really a coin toss.

 

[BlindFaith]

Let's not forget he tore his ACL and MCL. To fully recover from these injuries usually takes a full year. I realize many players play before that year is through, but they are not at full strength with their leg muscles and often suffer other injuries compensating for this. Sit him for the year.

He tore his ACL and LCL. Not MCL. If he tore his MCL he wouldnt be close to pressing or squating what he is now.

 

[waldoputty]

The feeling coming back is not relevant because peroneal nerve palsy is primarily a motor palsy. We don't know his emg results but at about 18 months if it was a complete palsy there is a 25% chance of him making a full recovery. If it is incomplete that is about 75%. But that is for normal people who just need to walk. Whether those recovery rates mean an NFL caliber athlete can return to form is not clear. And I don't think anyone in the NFL has ever played with an afo so unclear if he will be able to play at all if he continues to not have motor strength

This is what I read though not sure if the doctor gave the layman version. He said complete paralysis and 6 inches away from the muscle. But the doctor said high chance for recovery.

Where did you get the 75/25 statistics? Doctor said nerve was stretched but not elongated. I presume that means there is the original nerve for the growing nerve to follow?

I would imagine if the nerve regeneration needed help, they would have added the needed ingredients (guides, cells, factors etc)

 

[erod]

Hope so because we know Ro is only good for about 6-7 games before he wanders off the reservation.