I think there's a really good chance that Jaylon Smith will play this year

[CF74]

TO is that you?

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

He tore his ACL and LCL. Not MCL. If he tore his MCL he wouldnt be close to pressing or squating what he is now.

No, it was his ACL and MCL.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...e-dame-lb-jaylon-smith-has-left-acl-mcl-tears

 

[Bowdown27]

Kid literally just hurt himself few months ago. If he can play this year it would be unbelievable and the kid is a freak. I think he should rest up. But if he feels he can go and get cleared. Have at it.

 

[waldoputty]

His leg is back to the same size as the other one. We've all heard about the leg presses and squats. Strength wont be an issue. Getting full mobility of the foot is.

And if hes capable of running, jumping and cutting why not let him play? The knee itself will be structurally fine and he wont be in any danger of hurting it.

An 80 percent Smith would be better than a 50 percent out of shape uninterested McClain.

I think the nerve issue affects lateral agility? He is wearing a prosthesis that allows him to lift the leg.
The knee seems fine (knock on wood)
If he has trouble controlling his motion, it could cause injuries and may limit his agility.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I think the nerve issue affects lateral agility? He is wearing a prosthesis that allows him to lift the leg.
The knee seems fine (knock on wood)
If he has trouble controlling his motion, it could cause injuries and may limit his agility.

I highly doubt he would be medically cleared by the doctors to suit up if he has any trouble controlling his motion.

 

[danielofthesaints]

From what I read the inch per month is accurate, however, the length is closer to 15 inches than it is 6 (which makes sense if we're talking from knee to ankle on a guy that size). IDK. I'm no expert just relaying what I had read.

It's a common misconception that the peroneal nerve needs to grow or regenerate from the knee all the way to the ankle for foot dorsiflexion to occur. However, this is not the case. The deep peroneal nerve innervates the tibialis anterior, the extensor hallucis longus, and the extensor digitorum longus muscles, which all can be found proximal to (above) the ankle. These muscles allow for foot dorsiflexion and toe extension to occur. So, in short, the nerve doesn't need to regrow itself all the way down to the level of the ankle for foot dorsiflexion, only just to the level of the associated muscles that are responsible for foot dorsiflexion.

 

[Hoofbite]

Thread title should start, "I think..."

Edit: Wow. That happened in the time it took be to post that and refresh the page. So this is what being a mod feels like.....

 

[BlindFaith]

No, it was his ACL and MCL.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...e-dame-lb-jaylon-smith-has-left-acl-mcl-tears

Not according to this
http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines

Or this
https://www.bostonglobe.com

 

[speedkilz88]

There’s normally a one-month lag time before the nerve regrows at all, and once it begins, the rate is only about 1 inch per month.

“He’s had time for his nerve to regrow 2 inches, and the area of where his nerve was injured is 6 inches above the muscle that it innervates,” said Cooper, who’s also theDallas Cowboys’ head team physician. “I wouldn’t really expect him to get much innervation back into that muscle for two or three more months. Then once it does – I’ve seen kids who are completely paralyzed like him on the lateral side and not able to pick their foot up at all (that) wind up being totally normal.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...aylon-smith-knee-nerve-injury-draft/83416394/

 

[Beast_from_East]

I think it is safe to say that the Cowboys have access to a hell of a lot more medical info than we do when it comes to Smith's injury.

So I would not be surprised if we see him on the field this year.

 

[yimyammer]

From what I read the inch per month is accurate, however, the length is closer to 15 inches than it is 6 (which makes sense if we're talking from knee to ankle on a guy that size). IDK. I'm no expert just relaying what I had read.

I read something similar. I don't know if its accurate but here's what was said in this post:

Once a peripheral nerve is damaged, whether it be through an injury or as a result of surgery, the distal branches of the nerve dies. The chemical processes that feed the nerve are disrupted with the trauma, and the nerve complex withers away from the point of the insult to its distal tips.

Unlike the central nervous system (the brain and spinal cord), the peripheral nervous system (the nerves in the arms and legs) can regenerate. The nerves in the periphery regenerate at roughly a rate of one inch per month.

Simple math will furnish an approximation for the time expected for Jaylon Smith to recover. A man standing around 6 feet 3 inches has a shank (lower leg) of approximately 18 inches in length. Therefore, complete peroneal nerve regeneration over the span of Smith's shank should take approximately 18 months.

But nerves do not regrow in the identical manner that was once present in the limb. There are many factors influencing the path the nerve will take, and it is impossible to forecast the extent and efficacy of the repair.

If the motor neurons of the nerve do not attach to the appropriate muscles, Smith's drop foot will remain a permanent problem. Partial recovery of function may take place if simple and unpreventable complications arise during the nerve regeneration process.

In the case of incomplete motor neuron attachment, only a fraction of the strength once present in the muscles will be present. Such a limitation would likely result in Smith never returning to playing football.

 

[waldoputty]

I think it is safe to say that the Cowboys have access to a hell of a lot more medical info than we do when it comes to Smith's injury.

So I would not be surprised if we see him on the field this year.

I think they said 3-4 more months for nerve regrow, though rate of regeneration differs by individual.
Then I would expect some period for rehabilitation - no idea how long.
Imagine some doctors on the board would have some idea.

The worry is if the nerve goes to the wrong places.
Though it is much better for the leg (less complex) than the hand.

 

[MonsterD]

I think there's a really good chance that Jaylon Smith will play, in fact, if the Cowboys are thinking ahead here, Jaylon will sleep in a hyperbaric chamber every night from now until his nerve completely regenerates. That makes his recovery happen ASAP.

That's why I think he will play this year.... thoughts???

Agree

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

because all the reports were that he would not play this year ....... and the doctor who did the surgery works for Jerry Jones.

The videos and statements of the knee healing ahead of schedule and him working at a high level out were top secret, that's why he was still projected top 20 in the Draft.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The videos and statements of the knee healing ahead of schedule and him working at a high level out were top secret, that's why he was still projected top 20 in the Draft.

Yea, the idea that Dr. Cooper withheld medical info and that the Cowboys had "inside information" is totally ridiculous. He would lose his medical license for doing something like that.

 

[zrinkill]

You guys understand its a joke right? Making fun of how Mara always makes rules against us.

 

[speedkilz88]

I think they said 3-4 more months for nerve regrow, though rate of regeneration differs by individual.
Then I would expect some period for rehabilitation - no idea how long.
Imagine some doctors on the board would have some idea.

The worry is if the nerve goes to the wrong places.
Though it is much better for the leg (less complex) than the hand.

It's a nerve, I don't believe you rehab a nerve. They heal on their own.

 

[waldoputty]

The videos and statements of the knee healing ahead of schedule and him working at a high level out were top secret, that's why he was still projected top 20 in the Draft.

I suspect all the typical info are provided in the reports. However, the doctor may have speculation that he would not put in a report. I was really sick last year and was surprised how little info in some of these reports. Had to ask in detail.

 

[waldoputty]

It's a nerve, I don't believe you rehab a nerve. They heal on their own.

I meant the muscles after the nerve reinnervates.

 

[speedkilz88]

I meant the muscles after the nerve reinnervates.

what muscles? He's rehabbing the knee already, running, cutting, lifting. The nerve is in his ankle and it is the only issue in the ankle.