I think we take Chad Jackson

[Woods]

You'd feel better if we take CJ or SH if Terry Glenn were to be lost for the season.

Instead of T.O. being double covered every play and hoping Crayton could get it done, we'd have a #3 with talent and deep speed lining up in the slot to help ease the pressure on those two.

Would you rather have to depend on Crayton AND Copper in case of injury? I wouldn't.

But you could use that reasoning for any position on the Cowboys.

What if Flo got hurt for the season again? Or what if Fergy was out for the season? Or what if, etc., etc. You get the point.

The point is we can't target a specific player or position. That was why we've been so active in FA - so we don't draft for need.

 

[DLCassidy]

If we took either of the two first round receivers at 18, I would be very disappointed.

For a host of reasons, I don't think we will do so. But I can't say I'd be too disapointed. IMO Jackson is going to be a good player. Bust potential is low. He would make our offense very hard to stop and give us both depth and insurance against an Owens meltdown. We need another blocker, but we could get it in round 2. It won't happen but I could easily envision a very solid draft that could address our needs with Jackson in the 1st. How's this:

1) Jackson
2) Joseph or Spencer
3) Gacong
5) Bethea
6) Fifita
7) Sypniewski

 

[Woods]

For a host of reasons, I don't think we will do so. But I can't say I'd be too disapointed. IMO Jackson is going to be a good player. Bust potential is low. He would make our offense very hard to stop and give us both depth and insurance against an Owens meltdown. We need another blocker, but we could get it in round 2. It won't happen but I could easily envision a very solid draft that could address our needs with Jackson in the 1st. How's this:

1) Jackson
2) Joseph or Spencer
3) Gacong
5) Bethea
6) Fifita
7) Sypniewski

A lot of posters think S. Holmes is much better than Jackson. Do you have an opinion?

 

[Avery]

I think the Iggies grab him before...

 

[slick325]

I hate to say this but here it goes...Chad Jackson reminds of T.O. in size and ability to get yards after the catch. I am not saying he is a sure fire all-pro but I think he is MUCH different than past Florida WR's who shied away from contact and were products of the Spurrier system.

I have advocated this pick before although I wouldn't object to an OLB. It would be the perfect situation for Jackson to step into. No one has T.O.'s work ethic on this current roster. NO ONE! He practices hard and plays hard as well. If Jackson can learn from T.O. onfield the little nuances of the game he will be a freak! The speedster that those of you think we need at WR would be Terry Glenn while Jackson would run routes similar to those T.O. will run (that means all routes: short, intermediate and deep). Michael Irvin would be a great onfield influence for Jackson as well since he too practiced and played hard.

I have read a great deal of posts saying that it doesn't make sense to use a first rounder on a WR that would be our 4th wide and only play special teams. I submit to that faction that the 4th wide that only will play special teams is already on the roster and he is Patrick Crayton. If Jackson is drafted he will be the 3rd wideout and Crayton would be our PR and on the return/kickoff teams. Jackson would then assume the #1 WR slot for the future with Crayton maybe developing into a #2 WR, maybe.

If he (Jackson) is the choice we can always trade back into the 1st for Carpenter/Wimbley/Lawson or trade up in the second for an OLB and then get OL help in the 3rd. A decent FS prospect could be around as long as the fourth or fifth round. A NT can be had on second day as well.

Just my thoughts folks. Just my thoughts.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If we took either of the two first round receivers at 18, I would be very disappointed.

me too

 

[JonCJG]

Flo isn't as old as either Owens or Glenn and doesn't take as many shots. Terry Glenn playing 16 games is rare. Him and T.O. are getting older and slower and we need another WR period.

If Fergy gets hurt we rotate Ratliff a late round pick and Spears on 3rd downs. We'd be okay.

LT that would be a huge loss which is why I would draft Justice ahead of any LB or WR in round one. Either way Flo is older and we need to plan for the future.

WR would kill us. We have nobody past T.O. and Glenn.

We should go Justice or CJ, SH or trade down in that order IMHO.

But you don't give up on a 2nd round LB ONE YEAR after you draft him, injury or not. LB in 2nd or 3rd maybe. But we have bigger needs. LT WR and CB/FS

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I do not believe we will ever have the opportunity to draft Jackson but if he were to fall to us, I would not be dissapointed if we took him. I believe Jackson is going to turn into a heck of a WR in the NFL. He would fit a need and he would be good value at 18 IMO. I like Chad Jackson an awful lot. I think he's going to be a gamer.

 

[DLCassidy]

A lot of posters think S. Holmes is much better than Jackson. Do you have an opinion?

Holmes is a good player also but at 179 he is very light for the pounding NFL receiver's take. That's my only real problem with Holmes but it's probably a deal breaker for me in the 1st. I will say OSU has a very good track record on producing NFL receivers. Just a guess but I think Holmes is like plan E for the Cowboys.

 

[Woods]

Holmes is a good player also but at 179 he is very light for the pounding NFL receiver's take. That's my only real problem with Holmes but it's probably a deal breaker for me in the 1st. I will say OSU has a very good track record on producing NFL receivers. Just a guess but I think Holmes is like plan E for the Cowboys.

His lack of weight concerns we as well.

If I remember correctly, he got up to 198 lbs at the Combine - of course he didn't run at that weight

But at his Pro Day, he lost it all and got to 179.

 

[ravidubey]

me too

Chad Jackson could be to Florida WR's what Larry Johnson was to Penn State RB's. Or he could be just another Gator dud in a long line of them. Why risk a critical 1st round pick on that chance?

 

[DLCassidy]

Chad Jackson could be to Florida WR's what Larry Johnson was to Penn State RB's. Or he could be just another Gator dud in a long line of them. Why risk a critical 1st round pick on that chance?

Remember the Gator duds were under Spurrier's watch- confuse a D with lots of receivers in downfield patterns. That's not the offense Urban Meyers' runs which features a lot of shorter routes. Jackson caught 88 balls last year and showed he can go over the middle and make the tough catch. When you throw in 4.3 speed it's a nice package. I like him, but I liked Larry Johnson too.:laugh1:

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Chad Jackson could be to Florida WR's what Larry Johnson was to Penn State RB's. Or he could be just another Gator dud in a long line of them. Why risk a critical 1st round pick on that chance?

I think the conception of Florida WRs not working out in the NFL is more myth then anything at this point. I think that it used to be true but not any longer. The coaching staff has changed. They don't recruite the same kind of players as was the case when "The Old Ball Coach" was there. Jackson is a pretty good talent. He's the best talent at the position in this draft IMO. Besides, it's not as if Florida has never had good WRs in the NFL. Collinsworth, Nat Moore, Willie Jackson, Wes Chandler, Ricky Nattiel, Ernie Mills, they were all pretty good WRs. If Jackson is the best player on the board at 18, we should take him. Simple as that. No reason not to draft the best talent, assuming we stay at 18. We've worked to be able to draft without reaching. Why then would we say that we wouldn't draft a guy if he's the best talent on our board when our turn comes?

Take the best player and be done with it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Remember the Gator duds were under Spurrier's watch- confuse a D with lots of receivers in downfield patterns. That's not the offense Urban Meyers' runs which features a lot of shorter routes. Jackson caught 88 balls last year and showed he can go over the middle and make the tough catch. When you throw in 4.3 speed it's a nice package. I like him, but I liked Larry Johnson too.:laugh1:

actually, I like Jackson alot, he showed his Junior year that he can get deep, and his Senior year, he fine-tuned other parts of his game, the things you mention here, due to Urban Meyer's offense, I just dont' see the fruitfulness of taking him with our 1st pick when he'll be no better than our 3rd WR, and as Goose stated, and which I believe, the best value for WRs in this draft is the 2nd day

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Holmes is a good player also but at 179 he is very light for the pounding NFL receiver's take. That's my only real problem with Holmes but it's probably a deal breaker for me in the 1st. I will say OSU has a very good track record on producing NFL receivers. Just a guess but I think Holmes is like plan E for the Cowboys.

everyone likes to compare Holmes to Steve Smith, but the fact of the matter is, Smith is a solid, 190lbs., standing 5'9", while Holmes is near 5'11" at 180, that's a very lithe frame compared to Smith, who's more compact

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Chad Jackson could be to Florida WR's what Larry Johnson was to Penn State RB's. Or he could be just another Gator dud in a long line of them. Why risk a critical 1st round pick on that chance?

oops, sorry, see my reply to DLCass

 

[JonCJG]

http://home.earthlink.net/~seifertsite/01draft.html

Smith was 175 coming out of college and that is part of the reason why he was drafted in the 3rd round.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

The problem with Jackson is that he's not considered a speedster. If we take a WR in the 1st it better be somebody who stretches the field and runs a sub 4.4, 40. An impact player is what we need. Jackson's measurables remind me of Travis Taylor

See classic case of someone not knowing the entire truth, Chad Jackson's speed to size ratio is outstanding! The guy is 6'1 and runs a sub 4.3 40-yrd dash!! Check out the NFL Combine and there you will see him running and catching!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://home.earthlink.net/~seifertsite/01draft.html

Smith was 175 coming out of college and that is part of the reason why he was drafted in the 3rd round.

But he was still 5'9. For what it's worth, I agree with you, he will get bigger but the fact that Smith has managed to gain weight and stay fast does not translate over to Holmes. The question is, can he duplicate what Smith has done? I don't know that answer to that. I think it's a risk, just as it was with Smith. In Smith's case, the risk paid off. There are a lot of other WRs that have faced the same risk and it hasn't. How much of a risk is it and how much do you want to gamble? Thats what it comes down to.

 

[JonCJG]

By 2007 he will be closer to 220 lbs at 6'1 running under a 4.4 40. He's a freak that's for sure.