I want Zeke back next year

CowboysExchange

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,349
Reaction score
557
. we are winning as much and near the same level of offense used in a variety of ways without his 22MIL ..umm kk unlike Him who's watching once again on TV for the playoiffs like most year with raiders and now the browns.. crazy how we are in the playoffs without him and the browns arent with him LOL..

BYE cant debate with fan who cant see the obvious. Hes gone, your gone, we are done..

Our run game isn't playoff caliber imo. It's gonna hit an iceberg in the first wildcard game.

Zeke is not a prime Emmitt Smith. Our run game won't get 45 yards and will make us one dimensional again

Dak is Not Aikman

CeeDee is no Irvin

And this isn't a top Defense just a top pass rush.

Plus some teams have a trio of great wrs and tes, and a couple good rbs and top defense w better qb coaches and schemes

Plus we haven't won a game on grass all year. And 2 out of 3 of those losses on grass came from teams with a losing record too!!! Js

Hopefully we can turn that trend around and beat the 7-8 Titans in 4 days

I'd rather face Henry than McCaffrey and Debo
 
Last edited:

sacase

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,272
Reaction score
2,531
Anyone who wants Zeke back is part of the problem, he's a below average back, if he breaks a tackle it's a highlight reel on ESPN and he is always below the average back in YPC. Translation, the most overrated back in football for the past 4 years.
This literally one of the dumbest things I have read. Zeke is top 5 in rushing TDs. He has 11 I believe which is 3rd most in his career If you look at the stats pollard has take some of zekes rushing yards and most of his receiving yards. They compliment each other well.
 

RonnieT24

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,406
Reaction score
22,803
I get what you're saying about Zeke pounding the rock and I'm not disagreeing bruh

I'm not expecting Pollard to pound the rock like zeke btw

I'm expecting some young RB from college with some speed to join the RB core with Pollard and pound it!!!

I'm not trying to turn Pollard into Zeke ya see. Never was.

I'm just trying to improve the committee and get my pro bowler and best player on the field more than 50% of the time.

So the defense isn't just keying in on him when he gets substituted in.

If he can only make plays when the defense isn't keying on him then how much of a playmaker is he? You think defenses haven't been zeroed in on Zeke since he burst onto the scene? Yet he keeps doin what he do. At least until Kellen Moore took the ball out of his hands.

I get what you're saying about getting a youngster with some speed to pair with Pollard.. I just think you undervalue what a reliable veteran presence at the RB position does for this team. Watch other teams' running backs get trampled (or just whiffing) while their QB is getting rag dolled some time and then tell me again how bad you want some rookie protecting Dak's hiney. As I keep saying.. yes it's easy to find guys who can tote the rock 12-15 times a game. But nobody has yet answered the simple question: What is that guy doing the other 40-50 snaps when you're on offense?
 

jay94

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,206
Reaction score
1,390
This literally one of the dumbest things I have read. Zeke is top 5 in rushing TDs. He has 11 I believe which is 3rd most in his career If you look at the stats pollard has take some of zekes rushing yards and most of his receiving yards. They compliment each other well.


Last Zeke was the worst receiving back in the league.
 

RonnieT24

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,406
Reaction score
22,803
Financial I don’t know if you can keep them together but for the rest of this season let’s go!!!!!!

Of course you can keep them together. You sell Zeke on taking a pay cut to remain a Cowboy for life and to finish out his career in the playoffs pretty much every year as opposed to going to some dump team to get carries but winning 4-5 games every year because you're in a crappy organization. Zeke should tell his agent to "I got enough money, work it out so I stay in Dallas." Unless another contender comes calling with decent money I think that's what he's gonna do. But all of that will be known way before the March 1st date. My guess is the agent is already working the phones with contenders who might be able to use a veteran battering ram RB who has like a 95% success rate in short yardage, reliably pounds out 4 yards a pop and blocks like 6th lineman. Fans may not value it.. but you can bet coaches do. Including the ones in Dallas.
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
42,159
Reaction score
28,699
Of course you can keep them together. You sell Zeke on taking a pay cut to remain a Cowboy for life and to finish out his career in the playoffs pretty much every year as opposed to going to some dump team to get carries but winning 4-5 games every year because you're in a crappy organization. Zeke should tell his agent to "I got enough money, work it out so I stay in Dallas." Unless another contender comes calling with decent money I think that's what he's gonna do. But all of that will be known way before the March 1st date. My guess is the agent is already working the phones with contenders who might be able to use a veteran battering ram RB who has like a 95% success rate in short yardage, reliably pounds out 4 yards a pop and blocks like 6th lineman. Fans may not value it.. but you can bet coaches do. Including the ones in Dallas.
don't think zekes getting there unless they feed him a lot more..Pollards(988) can do it in the first qtr this next game but zekes(829) pretty far away(171) with 2 games left and maybe last game means nothing plus Washington and titans are pretty string run stoppers.. If the DC wanted to, they could get Pollard his 1k then give zeke the bulk the next 2 games if its important to either of them?
 

Cmac

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,283
Reaction score
8,815
It is a business after all.

How bad is his contract hurting? Didn;t we leave money on the table this year? I know....other peopel want their pile of money coming up too...I get it.

Zeke takes a reasonable pay cut and so too should Dak.
With that suggestion.....then Diggs, Lamb, and eventually Parsons, etc can start the cycle over......players outperforming their contracts, get rewarded......and then the Board can compain about their pay, evey play, every game.......and blame them for everything wrong. So perhaps restructure is better than pay cut, if possible.
 

CowboysExchange

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,349
Reaction score
557
Rustructuring Zeke is not gonna get his gears unstuck

If he doesn't have any playoff success this year it will be the 3rd p/o game in a row

And time to bring in some fresh legs w a higher ceiling

I'd like to see what Davis can do.. but there's no rb development in this next man up system

I don't remember the washed up Emmitt winning any playoff games
 
Last edited:

CowboysFaninHouston

CowboysFaninDC
Messages
33,987
Reaction score
19,519
I know everyone is always trying to get rid of him but he has done his job and has done it well!

I love 21 and I hope he comes back next year
its time for him to go...we can get a big, slow RB for pounding the ball in 5th round....don't need Zeke. cut Zeke. keep pollard, draft another RB......
 

RonnieT24

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,406
Reaction score
22,803
its time for him to go...we can get a big, slow RB for pounding the ball in 5th round....don't need Zeke. cut Zeke. keep pollard, draft another RB......

In 3 of that last 5 games the Cowboys longest run has come from the big, slow, pounding running back. But yall aint hear dat from me. Over the last 5 games one of the Cowboys backs has 68 carries for 287 yards (4.2 ypc) and 3 TDs while the other has 80 carries for 344 yards (4.3 ypc) and 5 TDs. I'll let you tell me which one you think is better.
 

CowboysExchange

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,349
Reaction score
557
In 3 of that last 5 games the Cowboys longest run has come from the big, slow, pounding running back. But yall aint hear dat from me. Over the last 5 games one of the Cowboys backs has 68 carries for 287 yards (4.2 ypc) and 3 TDs while the other has 80 carries for 344 yards (4.3 ypc) and 5 TDs. I'll let you tell me which one you think is better.
against Philly on our first scoring drive Pollard caught the ball on the 20 and took it down to the 9.
Then he ran for 8 yards taking it to the 1 yard line.

He looked at the bench because he wanted the TD and they took him out and put Zeke in to score the TD. Lol

All the mojo on that entire drive came from TP as the #1 receiver and rb. He caught like 4 passes and drove us down the field

And Zeke gets all the credit on paper for the score. Lol

Tp should be 6 tds and Zeke 2

Youre claiming Zeke's pass blocking offsets Pollards receiving but without Pollard this offense is a dumpster fire and we're punting down 10-0

Pollards receiving skills trumps all of that pass protection.

That's why he should be on field way more often. Imo
 
Last edited:

JW82

JJ21
Messages
6,308
Reaction score
10,382
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
I hope Zeke takes a pay cut and stays in Dallas to finish his career. He is 1785 yards away from 10,000 which would be a nice career benchmark to hit. Only 31 have done it. He’s only 10 yards away from passing Werewolf Walker on the all time rushing list..
 

CowboysExchange

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,349
Reaction score
557
If he can only make plays when the defense isn't keying on him then how much of a playmaker is he? You think defenses haven't been zeroed in on Zeke since he burst onto the scene? Yet he keeps doin what he do. At least until Kellen Moore took the ball out of his hands.

I get what you're saying about getting a youngster with some speed to pair with Pollard.. I just think you undervalue what a reliable veteran presence at the RB position does for this team. Watch other teams' running backs get trampled (or just whiffing) while their QB is getting rag dolled some time and then tell me again how bad you want some rookie protecting Dak's hiney. As I keep saying.. yes it's easy to find guys who can tote the rock 12-15 times a game. But nobody has yet answered the simple question: What is that guy doing the other 40-50 snaps when you're on offense?
We'll blocking isnt tp's strong suit so the oline and tes better be doing most of that. And the oc designing plays to combat that until we get another speedy back that can block for the committee

We need Pollard to catch the ball and run through holes. No since wasting his skillets on blocking when he's the leading scorer and best player on the team imo A 50% part time player is leading the team in all stats lmao
 

CowboysFaninHouston

CowboysFaninDC
Messages
33,987
Reaction score
19,519
In 3 of that last 5 games the Cowboys longest run has come from the big, slow, pounding running back. But yall aint hear dat from me. Over the last 5 games one of the Cowboys backs has 68 carries for 287 yards (4.2 ypc) and 3 TDs while the other has 80 carries for 344 yards (4.3 ypc) and 5 TDs. I'll let you tell me which one you think is better.
I take Pollard at a lower salary than Zeke with his outrageous salary. if push came to shove and pollard wanted big money, I would even let him walk....RBs are easy to find and draft and you can platoon just as easily. no need to pay RBs money nor draft them high in the first round. only 1 of the top 5 RBs are drafted in the first round..... I would never give a big second contract to any RB....waste of money.
 

sacase

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,272
Reaction score
2,531
its time for him to go...we can get a big, slow RB for pounding the ball in 5th round....don't need Zeke. cut Zeke. keep pollard, draft another RB......

Here are the RB's ahead of Zeke and their draft position:

Najee Harrist 1st
Jamaal Williams 4th
Jonathan Taylor 2nd
Damien Pierce 4th
Rhamondree Stevenson 4th
Aaron Jones 5th
Christian Mcaffery 1st
Tony Pollard 4th
Travis Etienne 1st
Dalvin Cook 2nd
Miles Sanders 2nd
Sequan Barkely 1st
Nick Chubb 2nd
Derick Henry 2nd
Josh Jacobs 1st

Here is the breakdown of the players by draft position
Yards
1st - 5
2nd - 5
3rd - 0
4th - 4
5th - 1

One fifth Rounder, Aaron Jones. That's it. Obvious the most productive backs are in the 1st and 2nd rounds. But keep cooking with your late round back myth.

giphy.gif


Here are the backs with more TD's than Zeke, the last two are tied with Zeke:

TD's
Jamaal Williams 4th
Derick Henry 2nd
Nick Chubb 2nd
Ezekiel Elliott 1st
Josh Jacobs 1st *
Miles Sanders 2nd *

As we can tell 3RB's have more TD's than Zeke:

1st - 2
2nd - 1
4th - 1

So please explain where all these 5th round RB's that are a dime a dozen that can replace Zeke.

giphy.gif


Please don't start with the argument that Zeke is taking Pollards TD's. Pollard is taking Zeke's carries so it even's out. If Zeke had his normal load he would be over 1k easy and most likely haveing his 2nd best year overall maybe even pushing for his best year.

Remember Zeke had to bulk up for the pounding that he was taking not just from all the rushes but blocking as well. What do you think is going to happen to Pollard once he gets the full time Job? He's already missed games due to injury with only a light load. he is going to have to bulk up. He is a dynamic back, he is someone you want to get in space. But you need a complementary back like Zeke with him. They are both in a great situation. I hope they both see it and decide to keep it together. So please stop with the lazy arguement that you can get a back in the late round to replace Zeke. Its just not true. Please stop using outliers to justify your arguement.

giphy.gif
 

CowboysExchange

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,349
Reaction score
557
Here are the RB's ahead of Zeke and their draft position:

Najee Harrist 1st
Jamaal Williams 4th
Jonathan Taylor 2nd
Damien Pierce 4th
Rhamondree Stevenson 4th
Aaron Jones 5th
Christian Mcaffery 1st
Tony Pollard 4th
Travis Etienne 1st
Dalvin Cook 2nd
Miles Sanders 2nd
Sequan Barkely 1st
Nick Chubb 2nd
Derick Henry 2nd
Josh Jacobs 1st

Here is the breakdown of the players by draft position
Yards
1st - 5
2nd - 5
3rd - 0
4th - 4
5th - 1

One fifth Rounder, Aaron Jones. That's it. Obvious the most productive backs are in the 1st and 2nd rounds. But keep cooking with your late round back myth.

giphy.gif


Here are the backs with more TD's than Zeke, the last two are tied with Zeke:

TD's
Jamaal Williams 4th
Derick Henry 2nd
Nick Chubb 2nd
Ezekiel Elliott 1st
Josh Jacobs 1st *
Miles Sanders 2nd *

As we can tell 3RB's have more TD's than Zeke:

1st - 2
2nd - 1
4th - 1

So please explain where all these 5th round RB's that are a dime a dozen that can replace Zeke.

giphy.gif


Please don't start with the argument that Zeke is taking Pollards TD's. Pollard is taking Zeke's carries so it even's out. If Zeke had his normal load he would be over 1k easy and most likely haveing his 2nd best year overall maybe even pushing for his best year.

Remember Zeke had to bulk up for the pounding that he was taking not just from all the rushes but blocking as well. What do you think is going to happen to Pollard once he gets the full time Job? He's already missed games due to injury with only a light load. he is going to have to bulk up. He is a dynamic back, he is someone you want to get in space. But you need a complementary back like Zeke with him. They are both in a great situation. I hope they both see it and decide to keep it together. So please stop with the lazy arguement that you can get a back in the late round to replace Zeke. Its just not true. Please stop using outliers to justify your arguement.

giphy.gif
But Pollard is the top scorer on the team.

And as I just explained in most situations the offense has put Zeke in the position to punch in all those short TD runs

Yall acting like Zeke is creating all of those td run opportunities by getting us close and then scoring but that's faaaaaarrr from the truth.

I've seen them substitute Zeke down by the goal line at least 5-6 times this year

Not just on the first scoring drive of the Philly game

How many goal line opportunities is Pollard getting??? Hmmm

I guarantee ya Pollard has 3-5xs more yards on scoring plays than Zeke lmao

If POLLARD wasnt out there our offense would be TRASH 7-10 record max

Not arguing that Pollard is a stand alone back He's a committee back in a 17 game season. Lol

But he's a better stand alone back than Zeke by a large margin

Both are committee backs Dash and Hope.

We don't even get to see what Davis can do urgh
 
Last edited:
Top