I want Zeke back next year

[RonnieT24]

Huh?

The reason most people want him out of Dallas is because of his ridiculous cap hit. If Zeke had a cap hit of $5MM next year, you'd get WAY less people saying he needs to go. LOL, you yourself admit the cap hit is too high and that he would need to take a pay cut.

Huh? What part of my post did you not understand. I clearly stated they cannot bring him back at that huge cap charge. What are we arguing about here?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

The third grader returns to his stalking ways.. Welcome back.. You don't like what I write.. There's a really simple solution. (hint: whinin about it like a lil ***** aint gonna work. )

Get back to the kiosk and out of the food court; these cell phones don’t sell themselves.

 

[ghst187]

seriously? so we let AC go over 22mil for what he was bringing and replaced him with a cheaper as productive player in Lamb who BTW will need to get paid. Gallups struggling coming back but cheap this year and will make full recovery at some point. this year our entire WR core together makes 22mil just think harder, capped league...our O has not had an issue scoring when dak came back and we finally used solid run game to offset it.

so ac reasons were 22mil, was not our leading wr last year and at times wasn't practicing and was decoy as that foot injury popped up enough and he disappeared in games to make that 22mil no longer cap friendly with other needs ..

IE AC gone allows for us to be successful this year with depth they signed and allows soem cap room to sign CD, Polard, Diggs and others.. why does this not compute with fans. they didnt give ac away on purpose that was his market in the short time frame they had to make sure they weren't on the hook for more guaranteed money, lest drop the debate already,

yes this will happen with Zeke unless she takes a 50% pay cut and is happy with his role and while pollards been great RBs can be replaced BUT if it works out zeke at 50% pay , FT Polard. and get malik more involved. or zeke gone, pollard on FT, Malik heavily involved in zekes role and draft a mid round replacement in this next draft for pollard for 2024...

lots of options wouldn't sweat it right now and some more money will be available as i believe Schultz will be gone as well.

turns out we didn’t need that money this year…could’ve kept him another year and had a good wr corps instead of a terrible one save Ceedee. I would argue our WR corps cost us two games so far this year with more to come.
I love hearing some other arguments floating around here about we didn’t need Amari because we didn’t win a championship with him but same people want to dish out big contracts to Ceedee and Diggs…whom we also haven’t won anything with.
Sure average to even good RBs are a dime a dozen but Pollard isn’t that, he’s the tyreke Hill of RBs. He’s one of only two players on offense we have that scare anyone. Zeke is the easy one to replace. Pollard is not. If we ditch Pollard as easily as we did Amari it will be one of the dumbest decisions in modern Cowboy history.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

He should be amicable to restructuring his contract and staying here

Here is the problem I see with restructuring Zeke........how much of a pay cut he's willing to take. Any restructuring going to have new guaranteed money, which brings another question, how many more years, one, two, three? DLaw's restructuring last year added two more years of guaranteed money. Zeke is set to make $10M next season, let's say Stephen offers half of that guaranteed over two years, is that too low for Zeke vs what he can get as a free agent if he's cut? Something I'm not sure fans realize, reading nuggets and comments from league insiders there is still a ton of respect for Zeke and his game, especially toughness and durability.



https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/ezekiel-elliott-18952/contracts/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/demarcus-lawrence-14443/contracts/

 

[RonnieT24]

turns out we didn’t need that money this year…could’ve kept him another year and had a good wr corps instead of a terrible one save Ceedee. I would argue our WR corps cost us two games so far this year with more to come.
I love hearing some other arguments floating around here about we didn’t need Amari because we didn’t win a championship with him but same people want to dish out big contracts to Ceedee and Diggs…whom we also haven’t won anything with.
Sure average to even good RBs are a dime a dozen but Pollard isn’t that, he’s the tyreke Hill of RBs. He’s one of only two players on offense we have that scare anyone. Zeke is the easy one to replace. Pollard is not. If we ditch Pollard as easily as we did Amari it will be one of the dumbest decisions in modern Cowboy history.

You're entitled to your opinion of course.. but I am of the mind that the guy who is explosive on 2-3 plays a game is easier to replace than the guy who provides steady production with the ball and all the other off the ball work. But truth be told it comes down to one's philosophy on how to build and run an offense as to which one you value more. Individually both are legitimate options. Together they are a monster. That's the option I'm rooting for. I don't want to see either guy leave town because I don't think you can just plug any schmuck in and replace either of them.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Here is the problem I see with restructuring Zeke........how much of a pay cut he's willing to take. Any restructuring going to have new guaranteed money, which brings another question, how many more years, one, two, three? DLaw's restructuring last year added two more years of guaranteed money. Zeke is set to make $10M next season, let's say Stephen offers half of that guaranteed over two years, is that too low for Zeke vs what he can get as a free agent if he's cut? Something I'm not sure fans realize, reading nuggets and comments from league insiders there is still a ton of respect for Zeke and his game, especially toughness and durability.



https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/ezekiel-elliott-18952/contracts/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/demarcus-lawrence-14443/contracts/

Excellent points. Also remember the original reason Zeke was drafted 4th overall was the Cowboys thought he would help maximize the last few years of Romo's career (of course Romo got hurt that same preseason). I don't know if they even thought Elliott would still be viable in 2022 given the shelf life of RB's across NFL history. His durability hasn't been a real issue until the recent knee stuff and those were kind of fluke injuries.

I like Zeke and think he has a place on this team at the right price. I hope he and the Cowboys find common ground.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I like Zeke and think he has a place on this team at the right price. I hope he and the Cowboys find common ground.

I'm guessing it's going to come down to Zeke or Pollard like last year when they decided between Gallup or Cooper. I def don't see both returning at all.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I'm guessing it's going to come down to Zeke or Pollard like last year when they decided between Gallup or Cooper. I def don't see both returning at all.

I think Pollard gets tagged so we have him one more year at least.

 

[75boyz]

I'm at a take him or leave him state with Zeke.
And the take him condition of course is only if he drops that salary way way down.

 

[ghst187]

You're entitled to your opinion of course.. but I am of the mind that the guy who is explosive on 2-3 plays a game is easier to replace than the guy who provides steady production with the ball and all the other off the ball work. But truth be told it comes down to one's philosophy on how to build and run an offense as to which one you value more. Individually both are legitimate options. Together they are a monster. That's the option I'm rooting for. I don't want to see either guy leave town because I don't think you can just plug any schmuck in and replace either of them.

i agree, would like to see them both back but I just say TP is much harder to replace…but yes he isn’t toting the rock 30x per game.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I think Pollard gets tagged so we have him one more year at least.

Agree 100% ..........don't they are ready/willing to give him a long-term deal but he's too valuable to let him walk.

 

[Sydla]

Huh? What part of my post did you not understand. I clearly stated they cannot bring him back at that huge cap charge. What are we arguing about here?

You chastised people for wanting him gone but the reason why people want him gone is for something you admit……. His cap hit just doesn’t work.

You are making it seem like most want him gone because they think he sucks or don’t like him. But in reality the majority of those willing to move on are because of his cap hit relative to the back he now is.

You can’t restructure him. It just kicks his high cap hits into future years when he likely will be less effective. He has to take a pay cut.

 

[Typhus]

I know everyone is always trying to get rid of him but he has done his job and has done it well!

I love 21 and I hope he comes back next year

If Zeke wants to be a Cowboy for life and makes the right concessions than why not, but the concessions have to be substantial.
It's a financial sacrifice that most will never make.

 

[Typhus]

Would he be there at #32 for us?

Most likely the first RB off the board so its anyone guess how far the first RB off the board falls.

 

[Shane612]

I'm indifferent about Zeke's return.
I think Malik Davis can do well.

 

[Typhus]

I would only let Zeke walk if we took Bijan Robinson in the draft.

Bijan is the stud, but still a relatively solid RB draft after he gets taken.
Would love to have him but entirely too many more pressing needs in next years draft than RB.

 

[Typhus]

I'm indifferent about Zeke's return.
I think Malik Davis can do well.

Thats why RB3 is always soa very important to develop and maintain, even RB4 easily now with such flexible roster limits.

 

[IceBowler]

I think they negotiate a new contract that alleviates his cap hit and allows us to keep Pollard.

It's certainly what needs to happen. Tony will not be the same back without Zeke ... and vice versa. Together, they manage a very good ground game total each week. They don't seem to mind which one of them get it so, why should fans?

 

[jay94]

I know everyone is always trying to get rid of him but he has done his job and has done it well!

I love 21 and I hope he comes back next year

Minimum contract with his old contract with incentives 4.5ypc and 1k yards, if he can't do 4.5 at most 5 mil.

zeke's not going anywhere.
he'll be back on a restructured deal.
but no way they'll trade or release him.

The trade part lmao, only way he gets traded is if we pay for his contract.

 

[cowboyec]

Minimum contract with his old contract with incentives 4.5ypc and 1k yards, if he can't do 4.5 at most 5 mil.



The trade part lmao, only way he gets traded is if we pay for his contract.

like i said.
he ain't goin' any where.