I was hoping that I wouldn’t have to be the one to say it. Refs paid or bias?

[Idgit]

The offensive Pi on Butler was legit?

I disagree. He was being held and shoved the guy away. It doesn’t matter there’s no defensive Pi allowed to be called there. He was freeing himself.

That was legit, yeah. It's a call that a lot of times goes your way, but it wasn't a phantom call. He was trying to free himself from handsy coverage, for sure, but he's at a disadvantage in that situation, and it got him.

It was a great playcall, by the way.

 

[9darter]

Not surprised. This league is corrupt as hell.

Has been for a long time. Explains how our doofus in New York, Eli, has two rings. How Steelers and Seahawks have been allowed to do stuff on D when other teams are flagged for nothing, etc. It's all a rigged and corrupt show.

 

[mahoneybill]

Has been for a long time. Explains how our doofus in New York, Eli, has two rings. How Steelers and Seahawks have been allowed to do stuff on D when other teams are flagged for nothing, etc. It's all a rigged and corrupt show.

And don't forget Quinn was a former Hawks coach so he knows the grab techniques and how the refs will overlook them..

 

[links18]

Being able to open your eyes and acknowledge changing circumstances doesnt make someone a hypocrite. We didnt lose because of awful officiating, but in a game often dictated by momentum the blatant lack of fair or balanced calls was huge.

What does "blatant lack of fair calls" even mean? They are intentionally calling things on us that aren't penalties? They are intentionally not calling things against the other team that are? Yes, I agree the officiating is horrible and a lot of it has gone against us, but I just can't see some kind of conspiracy. Is there some unconscious anti-Dallas bias among some refs? That's more reasonable (but not provable), but there is also a lot of total incompetence in a game with too many rules that change too often for anyone without a law degree to keep up with it all. Its part of the overall decline of the NFL product.

 

[CWR]

What does "blatant lack of fair calls" even mean? They are intentionally calling things on us that aren't penalties? They are intentionally not calling things against the other team that are? Yes, I agree the officiating is horrible and a lot of it has gone against us, but I just can't see some kind of conspiracy. Is there some unconscious anti-Dallas bias among some refs? That's more reasonable (but not provable), but there is also a lot of total incompetence in a game with too many rules that change too often for anyone without a law degree to keep up with it all. Its part of the overall decline of the NFL product.

That is perfectly logical and I cant argue with it. However, I still can not figure out why these calls are almost always against us? All I ask for is uniform, consistent calls. When it happens over and over you can call it "bias" or a conspiracy, I really don't care. Either way it's "blatantly" incorrect.

 

[JTnNC]

Normally, I would say that this is looking for a scapegoat. This weeks game has made me change my mind. There were blatant no calls against the Falcons D. It looked very much to me as if they were not gonna get called and they knew it. Tackeling receives while they are in mid route is, was and always will be a flag. Hitting the OB in the face is the same. This game stunk all the way from Atlanta back to Asheville NC.

The thing is, as long as Jerry is in the midst of a possible lawsuit against the league to try to block a contract extension for Geddell, the team better get used to this. I would have sworn against conspiracy theories. The Zeke suspension and the calls from this game have made me reconsider.

 

[links18]

That was legit, yeah. It's a call that a lot of times goes your way, but it wasn't a phantom call. He was trying to free himself from handsy coverage, for sure, but he's at a disadvantage in that situation, and it got him.

It was a great playcall, by the way.

Yeah, someone should get credit for calling the fake punt there. But who knew there cant be defensive pass interference from punt formation, but there can be offensive PI? What footnote on what page of the rule book is that one buried? And what is the rationale behind it?

 

[nathanlt]

We went 25[ 6+ games] quarters without a holding call..and they call a meaningless hold in the fourth quarter.

It was a WR hold, not an offensive lineman hold. In garbage time to boot. The streak continues for offensive lineman holding for Dallas opponents..

 

[CowboyRoy]

Either you didn’t read the post or you’re not able to comprehend it. Where did I once say that that was the reason for the loss or even imply it? Simply posed a question.

When you blame the refs, thats a way of deflecting blame away from the team.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Once again.

No one is making any excuses. No one is saying that’s why we lost. We are discussing the abnormal amount of bad calls. We were after the last 2 wins as well.

I don’t understand why you and others make that leap.
Is that what you do with other subjects and you’re projecting that on people discussing bad calls on the internet?

Very poor time to start talking about the Refs. Sounds like your blaming the loss on that even if you dont state it directly. While everyone else is talking about how horrid some players played and the coaches coached, your main focus is the refs. Seems out of place.

 

[triplets92]

When you blame the refs, thats a way of deflecting blame away from the team.

Never blamed the refs for anything. What I said was it was odd that so many egregious penalties went uncalled and speculated as to why that might be. Never made an excuse for the loss, never said it was the refs fault as to why we lost. Simply stated that with all that’s going on off the field regarding the team could their possibly be any reason why those penalties went uncalled.

 

[xwalker]

As annoying as it is, the plays called against us have been legit.

It's the calls that don't go our way that are tough to defend. Some of them have been pretty ridiculous. It's probably all coincidence, but it does beg the question.

On the Butler fake punt play, the ref was not even looking at Butler and the DB. His head was turned towards the punter.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Never blamed the refs for anything. What I said was it was odd that so many egregious penalties went uncalled and speculated as to why that might be. Never made an excuse for the loss, never said it was the refs fault as to why we lost. Simply stated that with all that’s going on off the field regarding the team could their possibly be any reason why those penalties went uncalled.

I know on the one play where Dez got hammered it was a tipped ball. If it gets tipped, they dont call PI.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That was legit, yeah. It's a call that a lot of times goes your way, but it wasn't a phantom call. He was trying to free himself from handsy coverage, for sure, but he's at a disadvantage in that situation, and it got him.

It was a great playcall, by the way.

OMG we actually agree. I liked the call.

 

[Idgit]

On the Butler fake punt play, the ref was not even looking at Butler and the DB. His head was turned towards the punter.

That I didn't see. All I know is that on the review, it looked like Butler extended his arms, and like the defender might have made a play on the ball if he had not. Like I said, that call goes both ways, but I don't have an issue with it going for the Falcons at home, there.

 

[Jarv]

You say you are the "furthest thing from a conspiracy theorist," in the midst of offering up a conspiracy theory. The officiating was terrible, but that's not why we lost. We were within striking range in the red zone in the second half and could have closed it to three, but we go away from the run that had just gashed them and throw on first down with Green getting no help (again). Sack. Drive stalls. Nuge misses the kick and the game is effectively over. Team quit after that.

I'm not saying it's why we lost either, but I will say I'm sick of the lopsidedness of it and want something done about it. Squeaky wheel gets the grease, it's about time someone squeaks and provides the proof!

 

[Idgit]

Yeah, someone should get credit for calling the fake punt there. But who knew there cant be defensive pass interference from punt formation, but there can be offensive PI? What footnote on what page of the rule book is that one buried? And what is the rationale behind it?

I imagine it's because the defenders become blockers after the change of possession and that they'd otherwise be calling DPI on every punt, but I'm not sure. I wasn't aware of it, either, and it seems pretty unfair that you can grab the chest plate of the shoulder pad and just interfere with the receiver in those situations without consequence. I guess it's on the offensive team to fool the return team enough that it's not an issue, but that's not exactly in the spirit of fair competition.

 

[xwalker]

That I didn't see. All I know is that on the review, it looked like Butler extended his arms, and like the defender might have made a play on the ball if he had not. Like I said, that call goes both ways, but I don't have an issue with it going for the Falcons at home, there.

Watch it again. I'm curious what you think.

The flag was way after the push. I think he saw the DB on the ground and assumed what happened.

 

[CyberB0b]

I've never thought there was, but in this game, there was clearly some shenanigans going on. Let's be real though, it had no impact on the game.

 

[Ken]

No bias here.....