I wish I could believe otherwise - but no great HC is headed here

SlammedZero

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Yeah and what GOOD coach would want to come here? Not only are you working under a narcissistic idiot GM, but you have a team that is cap-strapped, devoid of talent, with a mediocre QB. Doesn't sound like a great resume builder.
 

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I’m thinking that’s the safe bet for sure if Mike leaves. I can see the presser now, he got away but we got him back!….
Maybe, but I feel like since he's been here before, he might go the Ben Johnson route and wait it out for a more advantageous coaching position that he could somewhat control/put his mark on it. He knows he won't get that in DAL and he's young so it could possibly mess up his coaching trajectory or he'll just be JJ's next long term puppet.
 

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I don't know if I agree with you on this. I don't think any proven winning head coach will come here because Jerry/Stephen wouldn't be willing to give up the control it would take to get one. Offensive and defensive coordinators are looking for the next step up and usually jump at the chance to take it. They know that things can happen the next season (such as our injury problems) that can knock them off the hot candidate list. Plus, most coaches have egos just like the players and believe in their abilities. And they see football as a business, not like we do as fans.
That’s where some of our hope resides . If we’ve noticed over the years while we have puppets for HC we do have valid OC, DC and assistants who have become HC elsewhere and or had more success at other venues .

Moore is a good example, Dan Quinn. Even going back to Sean Payton. Even Zimmer years ago.
 

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Jethro doesn’t seem as intimidated by strong asst coaches. Look how Quinn came in here and turned our defense around.

That’s where part of our hope resides overcoming our dysfunctional ownership undermining our HC and meddling within.

Our other hope rest in hitting on our occasional great picks in the draft. Look what Parsons has delivered along with a couple others for our defense. Imagine if we hit big on a QB.

Elite talent at key positions along with up and coming asst coaching is our best hope to overcome this mess.
 

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Serious question: Who are the “up and coming” head coaches Jerry has hired besides Jimmy Johnson? Chan Gailey? Dave Campo? Wade? Garrett? Even if you consider all those guys up and comers, most never did anything successful again in the NFL.

Of that list only Chan Gailey ever got another NFL HC job again and it was nearly a decade later at Buffalo for 3 years. Campo never got another HC job at any level. Wade has always been a successful DC. But the only HC he’s been since he left Dallas was for the XFL. Garrett can’t get hired even at the college level.

Jerry has hired 8 HCs coaches in his time as owner and only 2 of them were great - Jimmy and Parcells were great NFL coaches. Switzer? Great college coach but not NFL despite his SB win. McCarthy is probably a good but not great HC. The other 5 HCs Jerry has hired have never done anything else of note as coaches.

The evidence leads us to one of three possible conclusions:
  1. Either Jerry does not want to hire a great HC.
  2. Jerry does not know how to hire a great HC.
  3. Great HCs are not interested.
Which of the above is it?
Garrett turned down head coaching offers from Baltimore and Atlanta to stay in Dallas before being made head coach. No matter what we think of him now, he was a hot name at the time.

Jones hired Gailey over George Seifert, Terry Donahue and Sherman Lewis. He said that something clicked between them when Gailey interviewed.

Phillips had earned his shot as one of the top defensive coordinators in the league. Yes, he'd been given shots before (mainly on an interim basis), but Parcells built up this roster and Jerry thought Phillips could take it to the next level.

Switzer was a great college coach, as you said, and won a Super Bowl, which is no easy task if you are a lousy coach.

Parcells' success speaks for itself, as does Jimmy's. McCarthy is a Super Bowl-winning coach. In 2018, he interviewed with the New York Jets and turned down chances to interview with Tampa and Arizona. Before being hired by Dallas, he spoke with Carolina, Cleveland and the New York Giants about their vacancies.

That's seven out of eight. The only one either unwanted by anyone else at the time or without a strong resume was Campo.

But believe what you want. I'm not going to go through the trouble of looking all this up for you to just ignore it to stick with your agenda. This team is not worth the effort right now.
 

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Garrett turned down head coaching offers from Baltimore and Atlanta to stay in Dallas before being made head coach. No matter what we think of him now, he was a hot name at the time.

Jones hired Gailey over George Seifert, Terry Donahue and Sherman Lewis. He said that something clicked between them when Gailey interviewed.

Phillips had earned his shot as one of the top defensive coordinators in the league. Yes, he'd been given shots before (mainly on an interim basis), but Parcells built up this roster and Jerry thought Phillips could take it to the next level.

Switzer was a great college coach, as you said, and won a Super Bowl, which is no easy task if you are a lousy coach.

Parcells' success speaks for itself, as does Jimmy's. McCarthy is a Super Bowl-winning coach. In 2018, he interviewed with the New York Jets and turned down chances to interview with Tampa and Arizona. Before being hired by Dallas, he spoke with Carolina, Cleveland and the New York Giants about their vacancies.

That's seven out of eight. The only one either unwanted by anyone else at the time or without a strong resume was Campo.

But believe what you want. I'm not going to go through the trouble of looking all this up for you to just ignore it to stick with your agenda. This team is not worth the effort right now.
I disagree on some of your assessments here but good post and I appreciate the work you put into it.
 

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I think we’ve known this since Parcells left… just like the great philosopher Emmitt said..

“A leopard does not change his stripes. “.
And only reason he relented with BP was due to wanting the new stadium.

As soon as BP drove away Jerry was telling everybody how glad he was to not have to walk around on eggshells any more. Then he immediately hired Garrett as OC and then retread Wade as HC. At that point I knew Jerry would never change.
 

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Not true. Mike McCarthy is currently the 16th highest paid head coach in the NFL. Big Mac is paid less than Sirani and Dan Quinn, so he’s paid 3rd of the 4 HCs in the NFC East. Garrett was always paid well below what other guys were making.

Remember, coaches have no salary cap. Jerry could money whip anyone he chose to because he’s the richest owner in sports. He pays his players very well. His head coaches…not so much.

I think he still has little respect for the coaching profession. The money he pays his coaches seems to back that up.
Who needs a HC when you have Jerry, owners can’t be HCs in NFL anymore or he’d be on the sidelines like Al Davis did years ago. MM looks like he’s going to be back because he’s the perfect lapdog for Jerry, it’s sad but not a thing we can do about it.
 

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With the Belechick announcement today the dream of him being here fell in such a predictable way. He would have never agreed to work without most if not all the authority he was used to for decades as HC in New England.
 

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Jerry and his dumb son will probably give you more of the same, if they make a change, it will underwhelm most likely regardless! The Cowboy way!
 

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You can bring in QB after QB after QB. You can bring in coach after coach after coach. This team will NEVER win under the Jones Klan unless there is a miracle. This family is too self absorbed. This regime thinks of $$$ first. This is the problem with a lot of super wealthy people. They are addicted to money, power, fame. It's like booze to them, they have to have it. In retrospect, it's actually a mirage, because once you've had all you've ever wanted, there is nothing else you could want, but want just to want. There is no end in sight to Cowboys nation misery. We watch just to watch.
 
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