I wish I could believe otherwise - but no great HC is headed here

[SlammedZero]

Yeah and what GOOD coach would want to come here? Not only are you working under a narcissistic idiot GM, but you have a team that is cap-strapped, devoid of talent, with a mediocre QB. Doesn't sound like a great resume builder.

 

[LonnieElam]

You know what's going to be great about April? I won't have to pay for any season tickets. I'm sure they'll raise the prices AGAIN, anyways.

 

[montgod]

I’m thinking that’s the safe bet for sure if Mike leaves. I can see the presser now, he got away but we got him back!….

Maybe, but I feel like since he's been here before, he might go the Ben Johnson route and wait it out for a more advantageous coaching position that he could somewhat control/put his mark on it. He knows he won't get that in DAL and he's young so it could possibly mess up his coaching trajectory or he'll just be JJ's next long term puppet.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

I think we’ve known this since Parcells left… just like the great philosopher Emmitt said..

“A leopard does not change his stripes. “.

 

[TheCritic]

Another great thread Bobhaze. And I have to say that you are a lot more patient with these morons crying about Ben Johnson than I would be!

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't know if I agree with you on this. I don't think any proven winning head coach will come here because Jerry/Stephen wouldn't be willing to give up the control it would take to get one. Offensive and defensive coordinators are looking for the next step up and usually jump at the chance to take it. They know that things can happen the next season (such as our injury problems) that can knock them off the hot candidate list. Plus, most coaches have egos just like the players and believe in their abilities. And they see football as a business, not like we do as fans.

That’s where some of our hope resides . If we’ve noticed over the years while we have puppets for HC we do have valid OC, DC and assistants who have become HC elsewhere and or had more success at other venues .

Moore is a good example, Dan Quinn. Even going back to Sean Payton. Even Zimmer years ago.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jethro doesn’t seem as intimidated by strong asst coaches. Look how Quinn came in here and turned our defense around.

That’s where part of our hope resides overcoming our dysfunctional ownership undermining our HC and meddling within.

Our other hope rest in hitting on our occasional great picks in the draft. Look what Parsons has delivered along with a couple others for our defense. Imagine if we hit big on a QB.

Elite talent at key positions along with up and coming asst coaching is our best hope to overcome this mess.

 

[gimmesix]

Serious question: Who are the “up and coming” head coaches Jerry has hired besides Jimmy Johnson? Chan Gailey? Dave Campo? Wade? Garrett? Even if you consider all those guys up and comers, most never did anything successful again in the NFL.

Of that list only Chan Gailey ever got another NFL HC job again and it was nearly a decade later at Buffalo for 3 years. Campo never got another HC job at any level. Wade has always been a successful DC. But the only HC he’s been since he left Dallas was for the XFL. Garrett can’t get hired even at the college level.

Jerry has hired 8 HCs coaches in his time as owner and only 2 of them were great - Jimmy and Parcells were great NFL coaches. Switzer? Great college coach but not NFL despite his SB win. McCarthy is probably a good but not great HC. The other 5 HCs Jerry has hired have never done anything else of note as coaches.

The evidence leads us to one of three possible conclusions:

1. Either Jerry does not want to hire a great HC.
2. Jerry does not know how to hire a great HC.
3. Great HCs are not interested.

Which of the above is it?

Garrett turned down head coaching offers from Baltimore and Atlanta to stay in Dallas before being made head coach. No matter what we think of him now, he was a hot name at the time.

Jones hired Gailey over George Seifert, Terry Donahue and Sherman Lewis. He said that something clicked between them when Gailey interviewed.

Phillips had earned his shot as one of the top defensive coordinators in the league. Yes, he'd been given shots before (mainly on an interim basis), but Parcells built up this roster and Jerry thought Phillips could take it to the next level.

Switzer was a great college coach, as you said, and won a Super Bowl, which is no easy task if you are a lousy coach.

Parcells' success speaks for itself, as does Jimmy's. McCarthy is a Super Bowl-winning coach. In 2018, he interviewed with the New York Jets and turned down chances to interview with Tampa and Arizona. Before being hired by Dallas, he spoke with Carolina, Cleveland and the New York Giants about their vacancies.

That's seven out of eight. The only one either unwanted by anyone else at the time or without a strong resume was Campo.

But believe what you want. I'm not going to go through the trouble of looking all this up for you to just ignore it to stick with your agenda. This team is not worth the effort right now.

 

[Bobhaze]

Garrett turned down head coaching offers from Baltimore and Atlanta to stay in Dallas before being made head coach. No matter what we think of him now, he was a hot name at the time.

Jones hired Gailey over George Seifert, Terry Donahue and Sherman Lewis. He said that something clicked between them when Gailey interviewed.

Phillips had earned his shot as one of the top defensive coordinators in the league. Yes, he'd been given shots before (mainly on an interim basis), but Parcells built up this roster and Jerry thought Phillips could take it to the next level.

Switzer was a great college coach, as you said, and won a Super Bowl, which is no easy task if you are a lousy coach.

Parcells' success speaks for itself, as does Jimmy's. McCarthy is a Super Bowl-winning coach. In 2018, he interviewed with the New York Jets and turned down chances to interview with Tampa and Arizona. Before being hired by Dallas, he spoke with Carolina, Cleveland and the New York Giants about their vacancies.

That's seven out of eight. The only one either unwanted by anyone else at the time or without a strong resume was Campo.

But believe what you want. I'm not going to go through the trouble of looking all this up for you to just ignore it to stick with your agenda. This team is not worth the effort right now.

I disagree on some of your assessments here but good post and I appreciate the work you put into it.

 

[MikeT22]

I think we’ve known this since Parcells left… just like the great philosopher Emmitt said..

“A leopard does not change his stripes. “.

And only reason he relented with BP was due to wanting the new stadium.

As soon as BP drove away Jerry was telling everybody how glad he was to not have to walk around on eggshells any more. Then he immediately hired Garrett as OC and then retread Wade as HC. At that point I knew Jerry would never change.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

As big a red flag as a fan continuing to cheer for a crap hole team? Crap load of red flags around here!

On that we have accord.

 

[Brax]

Not true. Mike McCarthy is currently the 16th highest paid head coach in the NFL. Big Mac is paid less than Sirani and Dan Quinn, so he’s paid 3rd of the 4 HCs in the NFC East. Garrett was always paid well below what other guys were making.

Remember, coaches have no salary cap. Jerry could money whip anyone he chose to because he’s the richest owner in sports. He pays his players very well. His head coaches…not so much.

I think he still has little respect for the coaching profession. The money he pays his coaches seems to back that up.

Who needs a HC when you have Jerry, owners can’t be HCs in NFL anymore or he’d be on the sidelines like Al Davis did years ago. MM looks like he’s going to be back because he’s the perfect lapdog for Jerry, it’s sad but not a thing we can do about it.

 

[Bobhaze]

With the Belechick announcement today the dream of him being here fell in such a predictable way. He would have never agreed to work without most if not all the authority he was used to for decades as HC in New England.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Jerry and his dumb son will probably give you more of the same, if they make a change, it will underwhelm most likely regardless! The Cowboy way!

 

[Clove]

You can bring in QB after QB after QB. You can bring in coach after coach after coach. This team will NEVER win under the Jones Klan unless there is a miracle. This family is too self absorbed. This regime thinks of $$$ first. This is the problem with a lot of super wealthy people. They are addicted to money, power, fame. It's like booze to them, they have to have it. In retrospect, it's actually a mirage, because once you've had all you've ever wanted, there is nothing else you could want, but want just to want. There is no end in sight to Cowboys nation misery. We watch just to watch.

 

[10mike360]

Jerry only looks at, what will make him the most money, in the shortest time. His team, our Dallas Cowboys, is only a prop he uses in an attempt to break the bank, all the while his drones cheering him on. For that matter, our Dallas Cowboys might as well be the Dallas Dingo's, or something. He might feel in his own mind that he is some sort of money magnet, but he is in no way a great GM or a great leader of a professional football team. In that area, he has thrown all our rich and historic traditions, under the bus.

 

[acr731]

Apparently Billy B just agreed to go to UNC, so scratch that name off. Not that I really wanted him. They need a younger mind with fresh, new ideas, Jerry just needs to stay out of the way and let it happen.

 

[Loso86]

Many Cowboys fans are discussing some big names who could be our next head coach. I’ve done some of that dreaming too. But at this point unless the man in charge makes MAJOR changes in how he operates, there will be no new coach that can rescue this mess. Because the owner won’t allow it.

I wish I could believe there is a new and better head coach headed to Dallas for 2025. But I just can’t. As long as Jerry Jones is breathing he will never hire a head coach that would or could upstage him.

To support this belief, here are some key points that have seemed obvious to me for years:

• Jerry Jones does not think like a normal owner or GM who wants to win a championship so badly he’s willing to hire a great HC, pay him handsomely, and support that HC by backing off. He does not want to win bad enough to change. Period.
• Jerry hires HCs not based on who gives us the best chance to win a championship but who makes him feel comfortable. (Your honor I submit these names into evidence: Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Wade Phillips, and Jason Garrett)
• The job of being HC of the Dallas Cowboys is not attractive to a HC who wants to do what normal HCs do in the NFL; like have control of the locker room, select his assistants, decide who starts, control the message to the press, etc.

I do not believe this job is attractive to any self respecting up and coming HC who is young and rising star (like Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn) because (a) Jerry doesn’t want to be upstaged ever again by a young star coach like Jimmy Johnson. (b)He will not change.

Our only hope rests in any of these things happening:

1. The Jones kids are tired of this 3 decade treadmill and want real changes. They pressure the old man to hire someone who can and will change this culture and force the old man to back off after the hire.
2. Jerry himself is tired of this cycle and decides to go after a coach that he will pay well, gives him freedom to run the team like a normal HC, and allows him to transform his culture.
3. Things stay exactly the same and we somehow just flat get lucky with whoever is hired.

Of these scenarios (all of which are unlikely) I hope scenario 1 could somehow, some way happen. Maybe Stephen, Charlotte and Jerry Jr have had enough of this wash, rinse repeat cycle of playoff irrelevance and put some pressure on Daddy to change.

My friends, without major change at the top, we cannot expect different results.

Whats a great coach to you and please tell me of who is available WHO fits that mold....!?

 

[pansophy]

Many Cowboys fans are discussing some big names who could be our next head coach. I’ve done some of that dreaming too. But at this point unless the man in charge makes MAJOR changes in how he operates, there will be no new coach that can rescue this mess. Because the owner won’t allow it.

I wish I could believe there is a new and better head coach headed to Dallas for 2025. But I just can’t. As long as Jerry Jones is breathing he will never hire a head coach that would or could upstage him.

To support this belief, here are some key points that have seemed obvious to me for years:

• Jerry Jones does not think like a normal owner or GM who wants to win a championship so badly he’s willing to hire a great HC, pay him handsomely, and support that HC by backing off. He does not want to win bad enough to change. Period.
• Jerry hires HCs not based on who gives us the best chance to win a championship but who makes him feel comfortable. (Your honor I submit these names into evidence: Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Wade Phillips, and Jason Garrett)
• The job of being HC of the Dallas Cowboys is not attractive to a HC who wants to do what normal HCs do in the NFL; like have control of the locker room, select his assistants, decide who starts, control the message to the press, etc.

I do not believe this job is attractive to any self respecting up and coming HC who is young and rising star (like Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn) because (a) Jerry doesn’t want to be upstaged ever again by a young star coach like Jimmy Johnson. (b)He will not change.

Our only hope rests in any of these things happening:

1. The Jones kids are tired of this 3 decade treadmill and want real changes. They pressure the old man to hire someone who can and will change this culture and force the old man to back off after the hire.
2. Jerry himself is tired of this cycle and decides to go after a coach that he will pay well, gives him freedom to run the team like a normal HC, and allows him to transform his culture.
3. Things stay exactly the same and we somehow just flat get lucky with whoever is hired.

Of these scenarios (all of which are unlikely) I hope scenario 1 could somehow, some way happen. Maybe Stephen, Charlotte and Jerry Jr have had enough of this wash, rinse repeat cycle of playoff irrelevance and put some pressure on Daddy to change.

My friends, without major change at the top, we cannot expect different results.

Minus the OL coach, I don’t really have a problem with coaching. Our problems stem from how the team is constructed, and a top heavy roster with little behind starters when they get injured or have off field issues.

 

[Chuck 54]

I still believe that while we could find a better coach in a perfect situation, McCarthy is not the problem. He is still better than most coaches, and I certainly prefer him over any other head coach currently on the sidelines in the NFC East.

McCarthy values complimentary football because he won a Super Bowl that way. His GB Packers could run the ball. He had plenty of playmaking receivers, not just one. He used the FB and the TE. Plus, he had a very good, tough defense That was tough inside and could pass rush.

In our three 12 win seasons, what did Jerry give him?

1. Never a defense that could stop the run, weak DTs and LBs, along with a DC that didn’t value that basic aspect of defense.
2. Poor depth at those weakest positions, so when we lost a 1 tech or a LB, it was over.
3. Held onto an overpaid RB too long and let the one explosive RB walk for peanuts.
4. Continually took away from the wr corps and never replaced Cooper with a real threat.

We all know what he did to the roster this season, hamstringing the defense with a lack of depth at LB and never helping the DT position, an OL with 2 rookies playing new positions starting and providing no LT depth when the backup LT went on injured reserve for half the season.

I have no problem with change if Jerry actually hires a top coach, lets him hire his own staff, and (since we know he isn’t bringing in a GM) makes sure the new coach has multiple threats on offense, including at least a RB and WR, and shores up the front seven to hold up in the post season and against better teams.

However, if Jerry steps up and gets those basics done with the roster, I think we‘d see big things next season and in the post season with McCarthy at the helm.