I wouldn't be opposed to Mike McCarthy returning

SlammedZero · Friday at 4:13 PM

As I've said before in other threads, I don't hate Big Mac, but I do think it's time for a change-up.

RustyBourneHorse · Friday at 4:17 PM

fivetwos said:
Yeah if it’s 4-5 years of Moore or two more of McCarthy, give me the latter. He may not have a choice, and will probably be surprised that the up and comers aren’t lining up for this situation.

People think Jerry is going to hire someone to come in here and fix this right away. That’s not going to happen. It’ll be another puppet. The guy is still fully convinced his way is the right way, he is the best man for the job…and doesn’t appear ready to step out of the spotlight at all.

Exactly, and people here that think the grass is greener with a different coach need to understand there's a very good chance that it'll be Kellen Moore.

KMY_Amber · Friday at 5:49 PM

Opposed, and the list of reasons has already been mentioned.

But if he gets this team to the playoffs, even if they don't win a playoff game, I'd reconsider. Short of that, BYE!

quickccc · Sunday at 5:33 PM

RustyBourneHorse said:
I know some of you will ridicule this OP, and I don't care. I wouldn't be opposed to Mike McCarthy returning. There's something to be said for a coach who, despite all the adversity he's faced, has kept this team in contention to where the playoffs are not out of the realm of possibility.

I remember in 2015 when we lost Romo, and the team fell apart under Garrett for a 4-12 record. This is now twice where Mike has kept this team fighting despite significant injuries to the team.

I think, unless the replacement in mind is someone like Vrabel, I'd rather Jerry give Mike a 3-4 year extension (especially since there's no cap on a coach). If Jerry and Mike are okay with this, I'd like a coaching staff of Mike at HC, Daboll at OC (he did well with Josh Allen in Buffalo, and he can call good plays), and Saleh at DC. That'd actually be a good coaching staff.

I know it's easy to look at a coach like Bill B and point to the championships. However, 1. What's his record without Brady and 2. How does he coach through adversity?

To me, when I see Mike McCarthy coach, I see someone who has, despite Jerry, kept a culture of keeping a struggling and less talented team fighting. It seemed he'd lost the locker room. Yet, especially the last 3 weeks, he's got the team fighting. Sure, he's got his flaws, and every coach does. That said, I love the culture he's instilled of fighting through adversity. He's got a winning record with us.

So yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to a 3-4 year deal for Mike *shrugs*, especially since Jerry can sack him without salary cap consequences.

Kept in contention ... vs Whom ? NY Giants ?

- In fairness, the only thing i can say about McCarthy offense is he's kept Lamb in the picture quite well as he's repeated another season where he'll lead the NFL in receptions. - no matter whose the QB

- otherwise this boring dink n dunk offense is stagnant, bland and has been among the worst offense in scoring, we've suffered monster blowouts AT HOME

- he doesn't emphasize pushing the ball downfield ... he does not scheme for speed, and splash plays- we have two speedsters who Mac
makes them much more an underneath obstacle than scaring opposing defenses

- His choice of OL coach i Mike Solari has been abysmal and contributed ..Sorri solari has the source of the worse running attack in the NFL , and there's suspect questions about how the OL unit is developing and being mis-schemed.

Cowboys5217 · Sunday at 5:58 PM

RustyBourneHorse said:
Exactly, and people here that think the grass is greener with a different coach need to understand there's a very good chance that it'll be Kellen Moore.

Gailey, Campo, Parcels, Phillips, Garrett, Big Mike, none of it has mattered because they all had the same GM.

It does not matter what coach is hired so long as Jerry remains GM. We will get the same old, same old - not being a contender, and never being serious about becoming one.

If you want to paint by the numbers in spite of Jerry, then McCarthy and the entire staff must be changed out next season if for no other reason than Jerry trying to sell tickets.

Cowboys1966 · Sunday at 9:36 PM

Something an eagles fan would say.

KingintheNorth · Sunday at 11:02 PM

Go back and look at his record against playoff teams the last 5 years.

diamonddelts · Sunday at 11:12 PM

BigD5 said:
Bill belichick is the greatest football coach to ever live. Why would anyone want him?

Below average without Brady.

plasticman · Sunday at 11:22 PM

There is some merit at this point.

Changing HC's means changing assistant coaches, changing the offensive and defensive philosophies, changing the players to fit a new system, and learning the system.

Consistency and familiarity are important aspects to building a competitive team. Three different DC's in the past five seasons is challenging enough.

I would be greatly influenced by the team's performance through the remainder of the season.

RustyBourneHorse · Monday at 5:32 AM

plasticman said:
There is some merit at this point.

Changing HC's means changing assistant coaches, changing the offensive and defensive philosophies, changing the players to fit a new system, and learning the system.

Consistency and familiarity are important aspects to building a competitive team. Three different DC's in the past five seasons is challenging enough.

I would be greatly influenced by the team's performance through the remainder of the season.

Same here, to me, McCarthy has at least earned a second look for the rest of the season.

DuncanIso · Monday at 6:49 PM

SlammedZero said:
As I've said before in other threads, I don't hate Big Mac, but I do think it's time for a change-up.

Yup.

hes been a disaster since the Bills game last season.

KMoore was the reason we had so much offensive success.

DuncanIso · Monday at 6:50 PM

RustyBourneHorse said:
Same here, to me, McCarthy has at least earned a second look for the rest of the season.

Everyone knows KMoore was the coach behind that #1 offense we had.

DuncanIso · Monday at 6:53 PM

plasticman said:
There is some merit at this point.

Changing HC's means changing assistant coaches, changing the offensive and defensive philosophies, changing the players to fit a new system, and learning the system.

Consistency and familiarity are important aspects to building a competitive team. Three different DC's in the past five seasons is challenging enough.

I would be greatly influenced by the team's performance through the remainder of the season.

Good argument for bringing back KMoore.

js66 · Monday at 8:43 PM

It depends on what you are trying to accomplish and what your timeframe to that is.

If you're willing to push your chips in the middle, spend in FA, possibly trade a pick or two for veteran players.... you might want to keep Mike. We're basically stuck with Dak, I don't think he masters a new offensive philosophy next season and dominates. Dak's best chance to perform, at least in the short term, is probably in the system he knows.

If you want to start it over, find a good young offensive coach to build around. Try to support him with an experienced DC that is not interested in a HC spot. I don't think I want Mike if we're going rebuild and intend on contending 3 years from now.

I don't think Jerry wants to start over. Not sure he has time to see it through.... If he does keep Mike, I hope he stocks the cupboards with some resources for him and surrounds Dak with talent. Not like this year. Otherwise... I hope we start over.

Sarge · 2024-12-03T03:23:14-0600

BigD5 said:
Bill belichick is the greatest football coach to ever live. Why would anyone want him?

Because he’s crusty.

Flamma · 2024-12-03T07:23:59-0600

RustyBourneHorse said:
I know some of you will ridicule this OP, and I don't care. I wouldn't be opposed to Mike McCarthy returning.

Me either. But he reminds me a lot of coach Marty Schottenheimer. A really good regular season coach, then craps the bed in the playoffs. But you have to start somewhere. Regular season gets you to the playoffs. I have to believe they learn from mistakes. Remember, McCarthy's 15-1 Packers lost at home in the DIV round to the 9-7 Giants. But again. considering what is available, he's not a bad choice.

RustyBourneHorse · 2024-12-03T08:38:39-0600

Flamma said:
Me either. But he reminds me a lot of coach Marty Schottenheimer. A really good regular season coach, then craps the bed in the playoffs. But you have to start somewhere. Regular season gets you to the playoffs. I have to believe they learn from mistakes. Remember, McCarthy's 15-1 Packers lost at home in the DIV round to the 9-7 Giants. But again. considering what is available, he's not a bad choice.

Exactly, and hey, I mean, considering the coaching options that'd legitimately work and put up with Jerry, he might still be the best option.

visionary · 2024-12-03T08:57:53-0600

ICP · 2024-12-03T09:59:35-0600

His clock management always seems to stink but I really don't care if he stays or leaves. What I want is a new GM without the last name Jones

dmq · 2024-12-03T10:11:27-0600

I’m no expert, but BB and Voch talk about how poor his play calling and scheme are every week.

I wouldn't be opposed to Mike McCarthy returning

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