I wouldn't be opposed to Mike McCarthy returning

[RustyBourneHorse]

This roster isn’t terrible, but since they refuse to use free agency, it’s going to take at least two great drafts to fix it, and even by then, positions that aren’t problems now will be by that time.

They continue to look down the road at how they are going to keep all the home grown players that aren’t good enough together. That’s their plan. Good luck.

Whoever the next HC is has little chance to succeed, so the advantage of keeping McCarthy lies in that he will likely sign as little as a two year extension, whereas a new coach will want at least four…..and as we clearly see…they do NOT eat years. They will be here for every minute even if it’s obviously not a great choice after half the contract length.

Exactly, and he has the respect of the players, which is important.

 

[cowboyec]

the problem isn't mccarthy.
its the gm.
until that dynamic changes...nothing changes.
mccarthy has done a helluva job considering the gm.
a younger coach wouldn't thrive in this dynamic of an owner/gm.
and how many veteran hc's would want to put up with it.
i respect the hell out of coach mccarthy.
nothing has been easy since day 1.
and his teams still play hard for him.
despite an owner having pc's after every game.
despite an owner who is a daily or weekly radio star.
despite an owner who thinks he is the only one who can be the gm here.
despite all that...he's still willing to coach here.
if we could get better...i'm all for it.
but i'm not sure we can and mccarthy is pretty damn good...considering his gm is a moron.

 

[Doomsday]

I would completely oppose it.

The only way it would make even a little sense would be if they brought in an offensive coordinator install a new offense and call the plays.

 

[CelticCowboy]

We will never win the Super Bowl under McCarthy.

We should never accept mediocrity

 

[fivetwos]

Exactly, and he has the respect of the players, which is important.

Jerry needs to keep his options open. Also he probably answered that question that way so as to keep everyone somewhat motivated for the remaining games so he can sell next season based on that effort. What was he supposed to say?

I do not at all think he is going to have his choice of coaches considering the circumstances and that they want to pay on the lower end.

If he does end up extending McCarthy, it makes leaving him as a lame duck look even more stupid. If Philly gets bounced early, I still think it’ll be Moore, but if they make a run and he has options, he has to know better than to come here over other opportunities. It’s next to impossible to command the locker room here no matter who you are, and he is kinda meek.

The next two years are screwed no matter who the HC is unless they figure out free agency. A player or two aside, they blew two drafts in a row and you’re now seeing that effect on the field. They don’t see it that way, overrate what they have, and probably think that one draft will fix it. Betcha a beer that it doesn’t.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Jerry needs to keep his options open. Also he probably answered that question that way so as to keep everyone somewhat motivated for the remaining games so he can sell next season based on that effort. What was he supposed to say?

I do not at all think he is going to have his choice of coaches considering the circumstances and that they want to pay on the lower end.

If he does end up extending McCarthy, it makes leaving him as a lame duck look even more stupid. If Philly gets bounced early, I still think it’ll be Moore, but if they make a run and he has options, he has to know better than to come here over other opportunities. It’s next to impossible to command the locker room here no matter who you are, and he is kinda meek.

The next two years are screwed no matter who the HC is unless they figure out free agency. A player or two aside, they blew two drafts in a row and you’re now seeing that effect on the field. They don’t see it that way, overrate what they have, and probably think that one draft will fix it. Betcha a beer that it doesn’t.

Well, and Moore is the option I'm worried about lol.

 

[dupree89]

I haven't read through all the responses, so I am probably duplicating what some others have said. But my opinion:

I give him credit for holding the team together. He doesnt use injuries as an excuse. Players seem to like him. And he can tolerate Jerry. Thats all good stuff.

My problems with him: I don't think he is good with in-game adjustments. His teams never come out of halftime with changes if things weren't working in the first half. His clock management is not the best. And he is not creative enough to figure out ways to get a unique guy like Turpin more involved on offense with mismatches. It could also be argued that too often his team starts off a game flat and not ready to play.

 

[fivetwos]

Well, and Moore is the option I'm worried about lol.

Yeah I don’t think he is a good choice, but he checks too many boxes as far as what Jerry wants.

Until the front office recognizes that mid round rookies aren’t likely to make an immediate impact, it doesn’t really matter.

They should be rushing to win while some players (Bland, Parsons, Overshown, Smith) are still on rookie deals, but they seem to rather claim having to eventually resign them as a reason they can’t sign what’s needed to get over the hump.

It won’t add up. It’s not about the ball not bouncing the right way and they don’t get that.

 

[RonWashington]

One very consistent theme with MM . He will beat up on teams Dallas should handle when it comes time to tougher regular season opponents and deeper playoff runs Dallas folds. Not good .

 

[jazzcat22]

Time to move on.
This is still the predictable Garrett based offense. How many times have we heard the opposing teams defense say they knew what was coming.
Especially after a playoff loss.
It has been basically the same offense since 2008. And look what it has gotten us. Granted the defenses weren't always the best either.

We need a new young innovative coach. On both sides of the ball.

But will the FO do it. And gt the type of players needs, along with FA's. Track record shows they will not.

 

[Sully]

Funny what a 2 game winning streak vs division rivals does for hunger starved Cowboy fans. One win at home after 5 straight embarrassment and Dallas fans are now open to re-sign Big Mike.​

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Yeah I don’t think he is a good choice, but he checks too many boxes as far as what Jerry wants.

Until the front office recognizes that mid round rookies aren’t likely to make an immediate impact, it doesn’t really matter.

They should be rushing to win while some players (Bland, Parsons, Overshown, Smith) are still on rookie deals, but they seem to rather claim having to eventually resign them as a reason they can’t sign what’s needed to get over the hump.

It won’t add up. It’s not about the ball not bouncing the right way and they don’t get that.

Exactly, and if it came down to Moore or McCarthy, give me McCarthy lol.

 

[Cowboyny]

I know some of you will ridicule this OP, and I don't care. I wouldn't be opposed to Mike McCarthy returning. There's something to be said for a coach who, despite all the adversity he's faced, has kept this team in contention to where the playoffs are not out of the realm of possibility.

I remember in 2015 when we lost Romo, and the team fell apart under Garrett for a 4-12 record. This is now twice where Mike has kept this team fighting despite significant injuries to the team.

I think, unless the replacement in mind is someone like Vrabel, I'd rather Jerry give Mike a 3-4 year extension (especially since there's no cap on a coach). If Jerry and Mike are okay with this, I'd like a coaching staff of Mike at HC, Daboll at OC (he did well with Josh Allen in Buffalo, and he can call good plays), and Saleh at DC. That'd actually be a good coaching staff.

I know it's easy to look at a coach like Bill B and point to the championships. However, 1. What's his record without Brady and 2. How does he coach through adversity?

To me, when I see Mike McCarthy coach, I see someone who has, despite Jerry, kept a culture of keeping a struggling and less talented team fighting. It seemed he'd lost the locker room. Yet, especially the last 3 weeks, he's got the team fighting. Sure, he's got his flaws, and every coach does. That said, I love the culture he's instilled of fighting through adversity. He's got a winning record with us.

So yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to a 3-4 year deal for Mike *shrugs*, especially since Jerry can sack him without salary cap consequences.

No doubt he has been a better HC then Garrett, but he clearly has his shortcomings. He runs the offense and should take accountability for their struggles. It was my understanding he was the driving force to move on from Amari Cooper, where the passing offense has struggled since his departure. His assistant coach hires have been questionable.

 

[Westcoasthabsfan]

I know some of you will ridicule this OP, and I don't care. I wouldn't be opposed to Mike McCarthy returning. There's something to be said for a coach who, despite all the adversity he's faced, has kept this team in contention to where the playoffs are not out of the realm of possibility.

I remember in 2015 when we lost Romo, and the team fell apart under Garrett for a 4-12 record. This is now twice where Mike has kept this team fighting despite significant injuries to the team.

I think, unless the replacement in mind is someone like Vrabel, I'd rather Jerry give Mike a 3-4 year extension (especially since there's no cap on a coach). If Jerry and Mike are okay with this, I'd like a coaching staff of Mike at HC, Daboll at OC (he did well with Josh Allen in Buffalo, and he can call good plays), and Saleh at DC. That'd actually be a good coaching staff.

I know it's easy to look at a coach like Bill B and point to the championships. However, 1. What's his record without Brady and 2. How does he coach through adversity?

To me, when I see Mike McCarthy coach, I see someone who has, despite Jerry, kept a culture of keeping a struggling and less talented team fighting. It seemed he'd lost the locker room. Yet, especially the last 3 weeks, he's got the team fighting. Sure, he's got his flaws, and every coach does. That said, I love the culture he's instilled of fighting through adversity. He's got a winning record with us.

So yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to a 3-4 year deal for Mike *shrugs*, especially since Jerry can sack him without salary cap consequences.

He is way past his expiry date...no matter what happens he should be gone

 

[morat1959]

You can change the entire coaching staff and every player but until Jerry let’s go or you get lucky and draft a franchise QB, NO SBs. Come on guys, where have yall been the last 30 years?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

No doubt he has been a better HC then Garrett, but he clearly has his shortcomings. He runs the offense and should take accountability for their struggles. It was my understanding he was the driving force to move on from Amari Cooper, where the passing offense has struggled since his departure.

Where did you get that?

The "driving force" behind moving on from Cooper was clearly Jerry getting mad that Amari wouldn't take a certain shot.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Even if the Cowboys finished close to 0.500 to finish the season, McCarthy is gone. He pretty much needed a conference championship to even be in the discussion with Jerry. I think he knew his chances of returning were very slim heading into the season but he knew it was finally over after the Atlanta game (that's why he showed frustration on the sidelines and threw the tablet)

There is probably a handshake agreement in place between them that assures he won't be fired mid-season.

 

[Cowboyny]

Where did you get that?

The "driving force" behind moving on from Cooper was clearly Jerry getting mad that Amari wouldn't take a certain shot.

Bobby Belt mentioned it. He was the 1st one who say Cooper won't be back according to his sources.

 

[tomokawan]

I literally just threw up in my mouth.

I can't think of one reason to keep him.


That isn't anywhere close to what he was hired for. He has been an epic failure in Dallas.

And yes the Cowboys are out of playoff contention. Zero possibility of that happening.

I think it was too much drinking or something for anyone to be OK if MC is brought back. He did not deserve to have been back after that last playoff lose. He is an awful play caller, game manager, etc...

 

[fivetwos]

Exactly, and if it came down to Moore or McCarthy, give me McCarthy lol.

Yeah if it’s 4-5 years of Moore or two more of McCarthy, give me the latter. He may not have a choice, and will probably be surprised that the up and comers aren’t lining up for this situation.

People think Jerry is going to hire someone to come in here and fix this right away. That’s not going to happen. It’ll be another puppet. The guy is still fully convinced his way is the right way, he is the best man for the job…and doesn’t appear ready to step out of the spotlight at all.