If Andre Smith drops to 25, I'm trading next year's first

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I will if I was GM. I don't care what people are saying about his body appearance, the kid has a top 10 skill set. Grooming him for a year in our program should be more than enough for him to start producing as one of the better LTs in the league in a year.

Flo affords us the crucial opportunity to be able to do this. If our team finishes where we expect them to for the next 3 to 4 years, then we will never be in a position to draft a LT with Smith's status. We likely will have to get Flo's replacement through free agency and pay major money for it.

You could also argue that there might not be a position on this team where we absolutely need to take a player in the 1st round. Especially if our young WRs pan out along with our policy on WRs.

Andre Smith has the feet of a 6'4 tackle but the arm lenghth (which is really all that matters for the height dimension) of a 6'8 tackle. He's gonna be a solid pro for years to come. He comes in with a remarkable colllege pedigree and will be dominanat in the pros.

I'm not an Alabama fan or anything of that sorts. And people saying this kid will fall out of the first round or being down on him based on his workout numbers, gimme a break! Because he did 2 fewer reps than guys like Oher means he won't make it in the NFL? Plus, there's no way he drops out of the 1st round; the league is too smart for that. Even dropping to 25 is a stretch from where I see it.

Now, if the team feels Free will be a solid pro some day (and I also believe this), then the move won't make sense. But if they don't then I see this as a beautiful opportunity to solidify the left side for the next 10 years
 
newnationcb;2688610 said:
I will if I was GM. I don't care what people are saying about his body appearance, the kid has a top 10 skill set. Grooming him for a year in our program should be more than enough for him to start producing as one of the better LTs in the league in a year.

Flo affords us the crucial opportunity to be able to do this. If our team finishes where we expect them to for the next 3 to 4 years, then we will never be in a position to draft a LT with Smith's status. We likely will have to get Flo's replacement through free agency and pay major money for it.

You could also argue that there might not be a position on this team where we absolutely need to take a player in the 1st round. Especially if our young WRs pan out along with our policy on WRs.

Andre Smith has the feet of a 6'4 tackle but the arm lenghth (which is really all that matters for the height dimension) of a 6'8 tackle. He's gonna be a solid pro for years to come. He comes in with a remarkable colllege pedigree and will be dominanat in the pros.

I'm not an Alabama fan or anything of that sorts. And people saying this kid will fall out of the first round or being down on him based on his workout numbers, gimme a break! Because he did 2 fewer reps than guys like Oter means he won't make it in the NFL? Plus, there's no way he drops out of the 2nd round. The league is too smart for that. Even dropping to 25 is a stretch from where I see it.

Now, if the team feels Free will be a solid pro some day (and I also believe this), then the move won't make sense. But if they don't then I see this as a beautiful opportunity to solidify the left side for the next 10 years

He sounds like a lazy piece of crapola to me. We don't need players like that.
 
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newnationcb;2688610 said:
I will if I was GM. I don't care what people are saying about his body appearance, the kid has a top 10 skill set. Grooming him for a year in our program should be more than enough for him to start producing as one of the better LTs in the league in a year.

Flo affords us the crucial opportunity to be able to do this. If our team finishes where we expect them to for the next 3 to 4 years, then we will never be in a position to draft a LT with Smith's status. We likely will have to get Flo's replacement through free agency and pay major money for it.

You could also argue that there might not be a position on this team where we absolutely need to take a player in the 1st round. Especially if our young WRs pan out along with our policy on WRs.

Andre Smith has the feet of a 6'4 tackle but the arm lenghth (which is really all that matters for the height dimension) of a 6'8 tackle. He's gonna be a solid pro for years to come. He comes in with a remarkable colllege pedigree and will be dominanat in the pros.

I'm not an Alabama fan or anything of that sorts. And people saying this kid will fall out of the first round or being down on him based on his workout numbers, gimme a break! Because he did 2 fewer reps than guys like Oher means he won't make it in the NFL? Plus, there's no way he drops out of the 1st round; the league is too smart for that. Even dropping to 25 is a stretch from where I see it.

Now, if the team feels Free will be a solid pro some day (and I also believe this), then the move won't make sense. But if they don't then I see this as a beautiful opportunity to solidify the left side for the next 10 years


well i'm glad your not a gm
 
lqmac1;2688614 said:
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well i'm glad your not a gm


I can say the same for you. Glad you aren't our GM.


The guy shows up to the biggest day of his life completely out of shape and blows the entire opportunity.

Yeah - let's trade our future for that guy. :rolleyes:
 
I really dont think we need another player with motivation issues..
 
sorry pundits still say top ten, and no worse than 16 to SD.
 
People are going to think I"m crazy, but Phil Loadholt is the LT and player, yes LT, Dallas would try to move up for in round 2. He's down to 332. and he has worked his way into a second round lock. He has worked out extremely well. His technique has improved, and he's quicker. It was noted at his Pro Day. Some teams may see only RT, but I bet several teams see Marcus McNeil, a player Dallas passed on for Anthony Fasano.

He's an unfinished product, and Dallas likes big, powerful tackles. Remember, he only played 2 years at Oklahoma, and he played at 345, I think.
 
41gy#;2688663 said:
People are going to think I"m crazy, but Phil Loadholt is the LT and player, yes LT, Dallas would try to move up for in round 2. He's down to 332. and he has worked his way into a second round lock. He has worked out extremely well. His technique has improved, and he's quicker. It was noted at his Pro Day. Some teams may see only RT, but I bet several teams see Marcus McNeil, a player Dallas passed on for Anthony Fasano.

He's an unfinished product, and Dallas likes big, powerful tackles. Remember, he only played 2 years at Oklahoma, and he played at 345, I think.


Hey, I'm actually pretty high on Loadholt as well and think he's gonna be a LT in this league also. However, if given the chance of giving up a 1st for Andre Smith (along with a pick less than a 2nd) or getting Loadholt with the 2nd, I'm rolling with the fat ***:cool:
 
41gy#;2688663 said:
People are going to think I"m crazy, but Phil Loadholt is the LT and player, yes LT, Dallas would try to move up for in round 2. He's down to 332. and he has worked his way into a second round lock. He has worked out extremely well. His technique has improved, and he's quicker. It was noted at his Pro Day. Some teams may see only RT, but I bet several teams see Marcus McNeil, a player Dallas passed on for Anthony Fasano.

He's an unfinished product, and Dallas likes big, powerful tackles. Remember, he only played 2 years at Oklahoma, and he played at 345, I think.

I wouldn't go as far as to say you are crazy or that you are not entitled to your opinion... but from everything I have seen Loadholt doesn't have the build (his butt is up by his shoulders) or the feet to play either tackle position in the NFL
 
Ummm NO! The beauty of the draft is that you can find diamonds in the rough like the Larry Allens of the world... (Future Hall of Famer)
 
newnationcb;2688610 said:
If Andre Smith drops to 25, I'm trading next year's first
I'm against trading away a future first round pick on such a questionable athlete.

Talk about a high risk move.
 
newnationcb;2688610 said:
I will if I was GM. I don't care what people are saying about his body appearance, the kid has a top 10 skill set. Grooming him for a year in our program should be more than enough for him to start producing as one of the better LTs in the league in a year.

If LT were a gaping hole and was the only thing keeping us from taking the next step, you make a move like this.

That isnt the case with this team.

Further, it would probably coast us more than just our 2 this yr and 1 next yr to get back into the 20's.
 
ThreeSportStar80;2688815 said:
Ummm NO! The beauty of the draft is that you can find diamonds in the rough like the Larry Allens of the world... (Future Hall of Famer)

Ummm, not saying Larry Allen was a top 10 pick or anything but he was selected 46 overall in the 2nd round. That's not exactly the diamond in the rough territory for an offensive guard. Our current starting left tackle was selected at pick 38 overall in the 2nd round.
 
He won't make it quite that far, I've got him going in the mid-teens.

There is 3 years of SEC tape on him. Any other conference and I'm concerned, but I know there are some tackle-hungry teams that won't let him slide past them in the middle of the first.

He is just an idiot that wasn't properly advised. He costed himself millions of dollars, so hopefully he understands that he needs to start taking this whole process seriosuly.
 
Zaxor;2688684 said:
I wouldn't go as far as to say you are crazy or that you are not entitled to your opinion... but from everything I have seen Loadholt doesn't have the build (his butt is up by his shoulders) or the feet to play either tackle position in the NFL
The big thing on Loadholt is he has extremely long arms which may cover up his deficiencies.
 
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its like watching a dirty version of baywatch...
 
I'm liking the OG from LSU. Biggest baby in Louisiana.
Fits our OL perfectly. FIxing the LG spot is pretty important as well. I think Flo still has a couple more seasons.
 

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