IF Cba Gets done - Extend Bledsoe

Doomsday101

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Colo said:
Nors, no one has called you on this, so I'm guessing it was over read by everyone else. What GM in their right mind would give a 2nd or 3rd for an unproven undrafted backup QB? If we could get that, I'd make that trade in a second regardless of Bledsoe's contract status..

I agree, teams did not think high enough to draft him but all of a sudden they are going to give Dallas a 2nd or 3rd and this based on?
 

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He lost his job to a 6th rounder? who was Tom Brady where a person is drafted has nothing to do with how that player will do and the fact is Brady would beat out the vast majority of QB in the NFL so the Pats going with a younger QB making less money made sense. As for winning SB teams do that there has never been a single QB to win a SB by himself it takes a team to win championships.

Understood.

But here is where I disagree.
#1 how do you know this at the time "brady would beat out..." = you dont.

#2 the pats going with younger QB making money(during a playoff run) you cant rationalize that. sorry.

your comments are more of the "hindsight is 20/20" variety

 

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Doomsday101 said:
I agree, teams did not think high enough to draft him but all of a sudden they are going to give Dallas a 2nd or 3rd and this based on?

i'm sure it's the quality grooming we've done.
 

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YoMick said:
Understood.

But here is where I disagree.
#1 how do you know this at the time "brady would beat out..." = you dont.

#2 the pats going with younger QB making money(during a playoff run) you cant rationalize that. sorry.

your comments are more of the "hindsight is 20/20" variety


Are you asking how do I know that Brady could beat out most of the QB's in the NFL? If that is what your asking I say it because I watch the games and know a great QB when I see one and there is no doubt in my mind that Tom Brady is one of the best in the game today.

2) Bledsoe was injured which is why Brady got the start to begin with not because he beat Bledsoe out. After the season was done and they saw the job Brady had done then it made all the sense in the world to go with the younger QB making less money than to sit him on the bench and keep a higher priced older player.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
Are you asking how do I know that Brady could beat out most of the QB's in the NFL? If that is what your asking I say it because I watch the games and know a great QB when I see one and there is no doubt in my mind that Tom Brady is one of the best in the game today.

2) Bledsoe was injured which is why Brady got the start to begin with not because he beat Bledsoe out. After the season was done and they saw the job Brady had done then it made all the sense in the world to go with the younger QB making less money than to sit him on the bench and keep a higher priced older player.

Wow so you knew at the time that was the right move. cool.
 

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You name 6 teams that would have named him the starter upon signing him "GOOD LUCK". Will the MANLOVE never cease.
I guess those 6 teams decided to go in another direction :lmao2:
 

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YoMick said:
Wow so you knew at the time that was the right move. cool.

I knew at the time they had no choice Bledsoe was hurt and could not play and when Brady did come in he showed he could do the job. I don't think that is hard to understand. Your making this out as if they pulled Bledsoe in favor of Brady and that was not the case, Brady went out and proved it and once he did then the Pats made their choice and in todays NFL with the cap it was a smart move.
 

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I guess those 6 teams decided to go in another direction :lmao2:

yea, funny when you want specifics from the SDDC (super duper drew crew) they vanish or change the topic.
 

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For me the bottom line is I know Bledsoe is not the long term future of the Cowboys after all he is a 13 year vet. I do think this team can win with Bledsoe at QB now and in the meantime it is up to Romo and Henson to show they are better players because they are not going to be handed the job outright and there is no reason to give either guy the job, if they want they need to out play the man behind center right now.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I knew at the time they had no choice Bledsoe was hurt and could not play and when Brady did come in he showed he could do the job. I don't think that is hard to understand. Your making this out as if they pulled Bledsoe in favor of Brady and that was not the case, Brady went out and proved it and once he did then the Pats made their choice and in todays NFL with the cap it was a smart move.

If I remember correctly Bledose then replaced Brady in AFC title game and got them to THAT SuperBowl. There was a decision that was to be made "Brady or Bledsoe" and BB went with Brady...

Bledsoe WAS healthy enough to play in SB from what I remember

is that how it went or am I off?
 

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If I remember correctly Bledose then replaced Brady in AFC title game and got them to THAT SuperBowl. There was a decision that was to be made "Brady or Bledsoe" and BB went with Brady...

Bledsoe WAS healthy enough to play in SB from what I remember

is that how it went or am I off?

He did take over in the game aginst Pitt but Brady had already played in 14 games that season due to the injury to Bledsoe so it had become Brady's job based on his play in the 14 games that season.
 

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He did take over in the game aginst Pitt but Brady had already played in 14 games that season due to the injury to Bledsoe so it had become Brady's job based on his play in the 14 games that season.
:bow:
 

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Wow, Dallas rushed to sign Bledsoe. That doesn't say too much considering the alternative was to keep Vinny Testaverde as the starter.

Bledose had one of his best seasons last year. And that was still just a slightly above average season, so I don't see it as that big of a deal. Unfortunately, Dallas doesn't have that many QB options at this point, but that doesn't mean they have to rush to extend his contract. They can wait and do that during the season or even after the season. There will not be some great bidding war for a 36 year old QB at the end of the season. If there is an uncapped 2007 season, Dallas can easily sign him to a 1 year deal if needed. Any 3 or 4 year extension at this time is pointless.

If Bledsoe showed that he was a great QB, then you lock him up, but he hasn't shown that.

So what that Bledsoe proved he was a #1 overall pick? What the heck does his draft status have to do with his ability to play the game now? Ryan Leaf and Jeff George were picked up high and I dont' want Dallas to go sign them.
 

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YoMick said:
If I remember correctly Bledose then replaced Brady in AFC title game and got them to THAT SuperBowl. There was a decision that was to be made "Brady or Bledsoe" and BB went with Brady...

Bledsoe WAS healthy enough to play in SB from what I remember

is that how it went or am I off?

Bledsoe was healthy before the playoffs and the Pats decided to stick with Brady.
 

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Nors said:
Cards/Skins -:lmao2:


head to head-

brunell- 2, bledsoe- 0

brunell- 6 TD's, 1 INT. bledsoe-2 TD's, 3 INT's.

same # of TD's- brunell threw 10 INT's to bledsoes 17.

skins went to the playoffs.

dallas didnt.




great post. :(
 

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Signed 4 hours after cut - Bledsoe a Cowboy by choice - HIS


NFL Rumors & Notes
Thursday, February 17, 2005
Quarterback Drew Bledsoe finds himself looking for a team after the Buffalo Bills announced their intention to cut him. And he said the Cowboys are one of the possible landing spots he finds "intriguing." Bledsoe also made it clear he is not signing with the Cowboys, or any team to help groom a young quarterback or be an insurance policy. He said he will sign only to be the starting quarterback. "Backing up anybody is not something I foresee for me," Bledsoe said during a conference call Wednesday. "I just don't see myself ever being a backup in this league. If it comes to that, you will probably see me tip my hat and head back here to the Northwest." The Bills can't officially release Bledsoe until Tuesday under NFL rules, but they gave him permission to begin negotiating with other teams. The Cowboys are one of the teams interested in Bledsoe, according to a source, although there is some concern about what signing Bledsoe might do to second-year quarterback Drew Henson's development. Other teams who might be interested in Bledsoe are Cleveland, Detroit, Tampa Bay and Arizona.
 

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Signed 4 hours after cut - Bledsoe a Cowboy by choice - HIS


NFL Rumors & Notes
Thursday, February 17, 2005
Quarterback Drew Bledsoe finds himself looking for a team after the Buffalo Bills announced their intention to cut him. And he said the Cowboys are one of the possible landing spots he finds "intriguing." Bledsoe also made it clear he is not signing with the Cowboys, or any team to help groom a young quarterback or be an insurance policy. He said he will sign only to be the starting quarterback. "Backing up anybody is not something I foresee for me," Bledsoe said during a conference call Wednesday. "I just don't see myself ever being a backup in this league. If it comes to that, you will probably see me tip my hat and head back here to the Northwest." The Bills can't officially release Bledsoe until Tuesday under NFL rules, but they gave him permission to begin negotiating with other teams. The Cowboys are one of the teams interested in Bledsoe, according to a source, although there is some concern about what signing Bledsoe might do to second-year quarterback Drew Henson's development. Other teams who might be interested in Bledsoe are Cleveland, Detroit, Tampa Bay and Arizona.

Right. HIS choice to sign for peanuts. Let 'em play for peanuts. No need whatsoever to redo his deal. Foolish. If Jerry decides to do it, its a dumb move.
 

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riggo said:
head to head-

brunell- 2, bledsoe- 0

brunell- 6 TD's, 1 INT. bledsoe-2 TD's, 3 INT's.

same # of TD's- brunell threw 10 INT's to bledsoes 17.

skins went to the playoffs.

dallas didnt.




great post. :(

Don't forget that Drew beat Brunell in the 96' AFC championship game when he got to the superbowl.

As for the skins, who cares about last year. Despite those numbers Drew should have went 1-1 against them if it wasn't for a defensive breakdown of monumental proportions in the final two minutes. I guess they were due to beat us eventually after a decade of dominance. I'm confident we will restore order this season and sweep them again.:cool:
 

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Wow, Dallas rushed to sign Bledsoe. That doesn't say too much considering the alternative was to keep Vinny Testaverde as the starter.

Bledose had one of his best seasons last year. And that was still just a slightly above average season, so I don't see it as that big of a deal. Unfortunately, Dallas doesn't have that many QB options at this point, but that doesn't mean they have to rush to extend his contract. They can wait and do that during the season or even after the season. There will not be some great bidding war for a 36 year old QB at the end of the season. If there is an uncapped 2007 season, Dallas can easily sign him to a 1 year deal if needed. Any 3 or 4 year extension at this time is pointless.

If Bledsoe showed that he was a great QB, then you lock him up, but he hasn't shown that.

So what that Bledsoe proved he was a #1 overall pick? What the heck does his draft status have to do with his ability to play the game now? Ryan Leaf and Jeff George were picked up high and I dont' want Dallas to go sign them.

What more does the guy have to show that he's a great QB? He just turned 34 and already has 43447 career passing yards?????? 30+ 4th quarter/OT come from behind wins? 244 career TD's?? Two superbowl births?? A .500 career playoff record??? Leading his team to the playoffs with a pin in his throwing finger???? Shattering franchise offensive records for multiple franchises????

Name a free agent last year you would have taken over Bledsoe? He was a steal and we were lucky Parcells was here or we might not have been able to land him in a competitive market where a lot of other teams likely would have been hot on his trail.

Love him or hate him, Drew is in ELITE company....and I'm glad he's playing here and hope he has at last 2 or 3 great seasons as a cowboy left in him!!:bow:
 

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Once CBA gets done - JJ will extend Bledsoe.

Look at QB messes league wide. We are very lucky to have Bledsoe and Romo ready and in the wings. Also allows Henson development time in NFLe.
 
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