If Dak Can't handle these Plays he can't be "A Game Manager"

[CowboyRoy]

So since we can't overcome these defenses with him, why keep him? If the result is a loss then any other QB will give us the same outcome at least. Guaranteed.

Overcome the #1 defense in the nfl? With zeke? Who can?

 

[Bigrandrn]

Some suggest "Make Dak a Game Manager".

Think back on the turnovers in that game.
-10 yard out w/7-man protection. Pick #1
-8 yard pass over middle. Pick #2
-6 yard stick throw...into LB's belly. shoulda been Int #3 and pick-six

These were all ordinary QB circumstances where Dak was doing ordinary QB things. Not super pressured on any of them. All short passes...Dak wasn't being aggressive in these plays pushing the ball down the field. Just made bad reads/decisions.

Some games Dak is clutch. Sees the field. Is quite good. Other times he gets deer-in-the-headlights, to the point where he can't even manage low-risk plays.

Dude CANT throw out routes….he’s like always late. He threw 2 pick sixes at The end of the season along with the SF game. That second pick doesn’t look like he knew it was a zone coverage cuz he threw it right to the dude sitting in that zone. Is Dak not able to read defenses that well?

 

[WillieBeamen]

Cooper Rush probably wins us that game smh

 

[Reverend Conehead]

You'll go crazy trying to understand Dak. That's why I've been up and down with him all these years. Some games he looks elite and others he looks like he shouldn't even be in the NFL. That's who he is. Can't win a SB with a QB that's so inconsistent.

That's exactly it. He's not qualified to be an NFL starting quarterback because you can't trust him. You can't trust him to protect the ball and to give your team a chance to win. He's a career backup, and is not worth his 40 mil a year contract. He's not even in the neighborhood of that.

This team needs to either find a way to get rid of him as painlessly as possible, or keep him as an absurdly paid backup, and start someone better. It's possible to find a free agent vet to be a stop-gab QB while Dak warms the bench.

 

[Captain-Crash]

the offense has already been dumbed down as far as we can go, this has been reported by our opponents. what more can be done for the quarterback?

 

[jterrell]

These kinds of takes are just silly as can be.
Not seeing the trees for the forest level silly.

To be a game manager you need to win the other 2 phases of the game.
Dallas most certainly wasn't doing that late when the kicker couldn't even make extra points and the defense was injured.

Remove Pat Mahomes as an option and there are ZERO other QBs who would have elevated the 2022 Dallas Cowboys that made the 2nd round of the playoffs to be the best team in football for the year.

Dak is a good QB that put Tom Brady to the sword the week before.
But he is not elite and wasn't going to drag a team with that many holes over the line.

 

[Typhus]

Dak is not elite…Dak needs playmakers around him to take the pressure off of him so he doesn’t press and force the ball to make things happen. Jerry has to spend some money for some playmakers on offense and better coaching for Dak and WRs; if not, then he needs to create a succession plan for when Dak is ultimately released. Some hard decisions need to be made.

On either side of the Dak fence, one has to ask how much better would this offense be with a Christian McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel,, using SF as a base model.
Thats the conundrum that Moore faces, because we simply do not have that fire power on this offense to play the short game often and effectively.
Pollard is essential in attempting to match that scheme, but he alone is not enough.
Can we provide the necessary short game weapons moving forward with limited Dak, that is the question and will have to be accomplished through the draft and rookie contracts.

 

[HonoluluCowboy]

Some suggest "Make Dak a Game Manager".

Think back on the turnovers in that game.
-10 yard out w/7-man protection. Pick #1
-8 yard pass over middle. Pick #2
-6 yard stick throw...into LB's belly. shoulda been Int #3 and pick-six

These were all ordinary QB circumstances where Dak was doing ordinary QB things. Not super pressured on any of them. All short passes...Dak wasn't being aggressive in these plays pushing the ball down the field. Just made bad reads/decisions.

Some games Dak is clutch. Sees the field. Is quite good. Other times he gets deer-in-the-headlights, to the point where he can't even manage low-risk plays.

Dak has NEVER been clutch against a wining team when it counted. Never !

 

[Playmaker247]

 

[Hadenough]

On either side of the Dak fence, one has to ask how much better would this offense be with a Christian McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel,, using SF as a base model.
Thats the conundrum that Moore faces, because we simply do not have that fire power on this offense to play the short game often and effectively.
Pollard is essential in attempting to match that scheme, but he alone is not enough.
Can we provide the necessary short game weapons moving forward with limited Dak, that is the question and will have to be accomplished through the draft and rookie contracts.

I think you will find that it's not the weapons. It's the QB!

 

[TwentyOne]

I'm starting to think this is true. All those amazing plays where Dak seems to look off the defender and hold the safety, I actually think he just pre-determined where he was going with the ball before the play starts, looks the other direction and comes back to what he pre-determined before the ball was snapped. If he guesses right, he looks like a genius, if he guesses wrong, it is the pick-6 or almost pick-6, or throw into triple coverage where we are all left scratching our heads wondering what he was looking at. That's why Dak looks so inconsistent. He is actually guessing most of the time with his pre-snap reads. If the defense has keyed in on his and KM's tendencies, then Dak looks how he did vs. the 49ers.

Yes. This is what i tried to say. You described it very good.

And this is also the reason why i value Moore very high. He has the ability to scheme plays for Prescott where exactly 1 player will be free. Prescott only knows to which receiver he has to throw the ball. Nothing less nothing more. He just does he presnap crap (or how you will call it in a positive way) but throws it predefined to the guy he knows from the play he was given. if its there he looks like Joe Montana but if its not there then forget about Prescott.

 

[T-RO]

Dak has NEVER been clutch against a wining team when it counted. Never !

That's not true. Just one example: His rookie season he was repeatedly clutch in the win on the road versus a very good Steeler team.

He was also clutch in the Green Bay playoff game. He led Dallas in scoring 18 points in the 4th quarter to tie Green Bay. Dak couldn't play defense in the final 30 seconds, where Rogers won the game.

Dak is simply very inconsistent, with his mechanics, with seeing the field and in his poise. Dak can play at the highest level, but he's never going to be a reliable "game manager" because for that you need consistency.

 

[LysleE]

On either side of the Dak fence, one has to ask how much better would this offense be with a Christian McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel,, using SF as a base model.
Thats the conundrum that Moore faces, because we simply do not have that fire power on this offense to play the short game often and effectively.
Pollard is essential in attempting to match that scheme, but he alone is not enough.
Can we provide the necessary short game weapons moving forward with limited Dak, that is the question and will have to be accomplished through the draft and rookie contracts.

You raise valid points; but Dallas is constrained by the salary cap and Stephen Jones’ inability to deftly manipulate it to facilitate getting Dak the support he needs. Most of the successful teams go out and aggressively add players to shore weaknesses and Improve their team, with the exception of Dallas.
How long has it been since Dallas made a move to bring in a player that would make a difference? Maybe Cooper, but his tenure was brief. We bring in lower-tier and scrub FAs and expect them to play like starters.
Dallas has had the same deficiencies for years; and the only response the fans get is the FO mantra: “we like our guys”.
Dallas must improve to keep pace in the NFC East or get left behind.

 

[Cowboys0988]

Dak is not elite…Dak needs playmakers around him to take the pressure off of him so he doesn’t press and force the ball to make things happen. Jerry has to spend some money for some playmakers on offense and better coaching for Dak and WRs; if not, then he needs to create a succession plan for when Dak is ultimately released. Some hard decisions need to be made.

Spend money? They are 5 million over the cap... When you pay a QB 25% Plus of the total cap, that QB is suppose to compensate for that amount of money, and not having extra money to sign great or good players, instead settling for average players at important positions. Dak aint that type of QB. Give him a top 5 Oline.. top5 rushing attack.. Two #1 receivers and a top 5 TE, then he will have some good games and some bad.. When he doesnt have great players at every position he throws 2 picks a game.

 

[Wangchung83]

These kinds of takes are just silly as can be.
Not seeing the trees for the forest level silly.

To be a game manager you need to win the other 2 phases of the game.
Dallas most certainly wasn't doing that late when the kicker couldn't even make extra points and the defense was injured.

Remove Pat Mahomes as an option and there are ZERO other QBs who would have elevated the 2022 Dallas Cowboys that made the 2nd round of the playoffs to be the best team in football for the year.

Dak is a good QB that put Tom Brady to the sword the week before.
But he is not elite and wasn't going to drag a team with that many holes over the line.

Dak sucks dak sucks dak sucks. You are blind if you’re still a believer and theme the facts. Which ones: how bout any..dak had more picks than any other QB in the league while playing 4 less games.lol. People will tell you it was the WR, TE, Line etc that caused the picks.lol. That’s the biggest bunch of blind hogwash and completely tries to absolve dak of throwing behind, low, high risk and poor decision made that also caused those picks. The other picks were all on him. Did you go and look at all 14 of Carrs picks to find out which were him or his line, WR, TE? Nope, bc we only make these excuses for Dak and accept that all others QBs are responsible for their interceptions. Worse, Dak just flat out has the worst footwork, pocket awareness and inability to read zone that he sucks.

 

[LysleE]

Spend money? They are 5 million over the cap... When you pay a QB 25% Plus of the total cap, that QB is suppose to compensate for that amount of money, and not having extra money to sign great or good players, instead settling for average players at important positions. Dak aint that type of QB. Give him a top 5 Oline.. top5 rushing attack.. Two #1 receivers and a top 5 TE, then he will have some good games and some bad.. When he doesnt have great players at every position he throws 2 picks a game.

I absolutely agree with you and as you pointed out Dak’s contract is a significant portion of the cap, but I am tired of seeing other teams massage and manipulate the cap to get players to improve their team. Our window is closing…and the Cowboys have what…maybe 20 or so FAs to make decisions on as well as sign 2023 draft picks. IMO being $5 MM over the cap they need to come up with additional monies.
And yes, Dak goes how his skill players go; he has to be surrounded by better, more dynamic players to play well. I think that it’s no coincidence that Dak’s play declined once injuries/attrition/retirement start negatively impacting the OL, RB and TE positions.

 

[Clove]

There is a Brock Purdy in every draft, right?

Is there a Kyle Shanahan on the coaching tree? And can we find a better owner? This has been happening 27 years.